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« on: June 05, 2008, 13:00 »
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It there anything I can do about it? It must be up sizing in Lightroom cause I doubt that picture taken at ISO 100, f/13 would be out of focus.


« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 13:28 »
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I uso photoshop to upsize, bicubic smoother and no rejections

« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 13:30 »
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Is it available in PSE?

« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 13:32 »
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emmm... dont know  :-\ I have cs2

« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 15:57 »
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It is. I use Photoshop Elements 4.0 and so far no rejections.

« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 16:41 »
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Does it mean that I have to export it from LR to PSE?
« Last Edit: June 05, 2008, 16:43 by melastmohican »

« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 00:08 »
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I don't know about LR and the LR File format....
My workflow:
1) shoot RAW file
2) adjustments are done in Canon raw-editing tool (Digital Photo Professional)
3) save as TIF
4) open TIF in PSE and remove dust spots (that's what I hate most.... :P)etc.
5) up size and save as JPG

....just learned in your other thread that you shoot with a 8 MP camera. Be careful not to stretch the up size process too far, it has its limits that might result in the "soft" rejection. Maybe you should try to up size just enough to pass the 48MB requirement.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2008, 00:34 by faber »

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 13:00 »
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I just submitted four images that were upsized from 12 MP to the 48MB minimum acceptable size.  Images were shot on the D300.  THey only stated a reason for one image being rejected due to Artifacts.  I upsized using PSE6 - Bicubic Soften.

The first batch was from my D70 (6MP) which I upsized using Imagener.  Of the four images, two were rejected due to Soft. 

My question is - is it ok to resubmit the images that had no reason for rejection stated other than their being part of the batch?  Or is Alamy sort of like SS in that they usually reject images resubmitted until after you were accepted.

On SS, I seem to be getting most all the images accepted that were previously rejected with no reason stated and were part of my acceptance submissions.  How is Alamy in that regard?

« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 13:08 »
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I got stuck with them. I even tried to upload one image per batch but then they rejected all batches cause they claim that all images with the same date are still evaluated together so if one fails all fail. What's the point of batch then???

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 14:56 »
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Wow; that seems to be the most stupid policy I ever heard.  I can see them playing a game with newbees, but after the individual is accepted, seems the images should be evaluated on their own merit.

You are right - it doesn't make sense to submit more than one image at a time after being acepted.  If I ever do make it! ::)

« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 15:01 »
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I do not find that Alamy playing any games with us. My images were rejected when I did sharpen them a lot. When I begun submitting images that were barely sharpen all of them were accepted. My problem with Alamy that I have there around 150 images and no sales ever in 8 months.

« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 17:01 »
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I do not do sharpening at all. I just export RAW to TIF from LR and use GF5 to resize it in PSE. I cannot figure out why they seem to be too soft for them. I start suspecting that my lens are just soft. I am upsizing from 8.3Mpix.

I wish they inspect every photo individually instead of one random photo of the day. This does not make me understand what is wrong. I can only eliminate rejected photos and try again. It will take years to upload there.

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 17:28 »
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8.3 mp? What camera are you shooting with?

Roadrunner

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2008, 15:14 »
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I suppose I just can't get the hang of upsizing.

My first batch was shot with the Nikon D-70 6MP image using sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 glass.   Rejected due to Soft.
My second batch of 4 was shot with a Nikon D300 and Tokina 80-200 f/2.8 Pro ATX lens and the forementioned Sigma lens; 12 MP images upsized and rejected due to Atifacts? ::)  There is no way I'm going to upgrade to a Hasy 40 MP camera and Hassy lenses.  I did however upgrade my 80-200,, Tokina to a Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR lens.

I may try one more time six months down the road, because they will probably freeze me out after my next failed attempt.  Then again; may be I should just give up now.

Good luck to you othere guys and gals though.

Roadrunner

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2008, 12:45 »
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Only upsize enough to make the minimum. I resize the longest side to 5025 and that makes the photo 48.2 MP

I was accepted with one of my photos taken with a 10D 6mp and the 28-135 lens, which is noticeably soft. I did do a little sharpening on that one. Usually I do no sharpening.

Framing the original photo in camera and not cropping (or very, very little) seems to be the key for making sharper and more acceptable images.

Had my first rejects last month with a 40D and 100-400 IS USM shot at 100 ISO! The focus point may not have been on the center of the subject, but when I sharpened and re-submitted, minus the one I guess was offending, they were rejected again. I gave up. The original needed to be cropped to about 75% of the original image.

Batch rejections are a dumb idea. One bad photo and all the rest get dumped? Then there are people who will try to sneak a soft one through with a batch of good ones. The other part is, they don't say which photo was the cause! I suspect this is to make review go faster. They spot check and if the batch looks good, they go through.

Upsizing is no secret science and the software I use has varied and doesn't seem to be the problem. Elements 5, and Photoshop CS2 or CS3 are what I'm using now. Point is that as long as you use something and don't have to crop the original much and use bi-cubic on the settings, the re-sizing shouldn't be the cause of the rejections.

I don't shoot RAW when I'm out in the field. I've had ISO 100 and 200 photos accepted. I do make sure I have a tight crop for the selected original, which I find an important factor.

For the pictures that need some editing before saving again, in other words, more than just resize and minor adjustments like Levels and color correction, I open and save as a TIF. Then I make changes and save as a JPG final size. This is just in case I need to make more changes later and don't want the image loss from opening and re-saving a JPG.

I have Lightroom and don't know how to use it properly. (yet?  ;D ) That would be my pick for editing because it does processing and saves a new file, leaving the original untouched.

I think most of us who just do photography and not heavy duty art editing would be best off with Lightroom and don't need to waste money buying CS3, or CS4. In fact, Elements does what most photographers need at a very reasonable price.

« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 16:02 »
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melastmohican and roadrunner take the following as suggestions to how to improve your success rate at Alamy.  As RacePhoto outright says upsizing is not difficult.  Upsizing a maginal image will result in a soft or lacking definition rejection (I know that from experience). 

I also do not like the one bad image rejects the entire batch, but it makes me take one more step and closely look at the images I plan on uploading.  I do like the fact they only look at technical aspects of an image for acceptance and you do not get not suitable for stock rejection.  For every good thing there is usually a balancing bad side as well.

Also, just because a photo was taken at iso 100 and f13 or you have used high quality glass does not mean you have a high quality image, being very critical when you look at the upsized image closely is a must or you waste your upload time.  Like RacePhoto suggestes your focus point may not have been in a critical area. 

Also I have had several iso 800 images accepted as well as images taken with a 5.1MP camera.  I have learned not to send selective focus images or other artsy images to them as I now know they will be rejected.

Scott

« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 17:07 »
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I eventually figured out that small batch once a day got higher chance to get thru. I think it will be very lengthy process to upload there so I need to be patient since it does not seem like it is going to produce any results soon.  At first I was thinking that there was something wrong with my workflow so  I purchased GF5 but it did not solve any problems. If they check randomly I need to keep batches small to eliminated pictures that are rejected and resubmit the ones which were not checked.


 

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