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Agency Based Discussion => Alamy.com => Topic started by: PZF on October 29, 2015, 04:13

Title: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: PZF on October 29, 2015, 04:13
If in doubt I always put that images are digitally altered, even if all I have done is adjust (selectively or overall) contrast, increase saturation a bit etc but wonder if this is necessary.
Any ideas?
Obviously if I add/remove anything it needs to be put as adjusted but......
?
Thoughts welcome.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: sharpshot on October 29, 2015, 05:26
They aren't interested in adjustments to contrast and saturation.  You only need to tick digitally altered if you have removed or added something to the photo that makes it an unrealistic representation.  I think you can clone out a bird or use HDR but can't remove a building or anything that is permanently in the scene.  The question has been asked a few times in their forum and they have given replies, so worth a search there.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on October 29, 2015, 08:12
I agree with sharpshot, although I'm not sure about HDR - I always put those as altered.  It's generally accepted on all the agencies I think that minor changes to contrast or saturation don't count as altered as long as you haven't added to or removed anything from the original image.  I doubt it makes much difference to buyers, but just in case I always put a note when it is altered what was done - cloning out trash or people I don't want in there, focus stacking, HDR, whatever.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: Microstockphoto on October 29, 2015, 08:39
Its altered when you remove a bird theres even a discussion weather a panorama is altered or not because of the time between shots the actuality of the first shot is not the same as the last shot
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: PZF on October 30, 2015, 02:47
Thanks. I thought I was probably overdoing it!
:)
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: etudiante_rapide on October 30, 2015, 10:40
i take it that this is more for editorials, as editorials are not supposed to be altered
. adjusting levels, cc, removing noise, etc do not consider as altered.

but removing or adding something to a scene which never happen, such as
blood on the persons in a riot, or a bobby towering over a fallen demonstrator,etc...

such as would change the meaning or temper of the situation to become contrived or not actual
in terms of reportage.

removing my liver-spots off my aged face would not consider altered, naturally  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: ShadySue on October 30, 2015, 19:07
If you are submitting RM at Alamy you must say wbether or not it's been altered, no matter whether it's editorial or a patch of your lawn.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: Difydave on October 31, 2015, 08:23
How much trouble is it to list what's been done to an image?
Everything that's been done. Takes seconds.
It's a service to the buyer.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: PZF on October 31, 2015, 10:00
I gather some people say they prefer images which haven't been digitally altered (maybe so there's no risk of anything odd showing up when printed large etc). In Alamy you can search on this.
As a result, pics marked 'altered' wouldn't be included in any search.  Even if only contrast and saturation had been adjusted.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on October 31, 2015, 16:22
Alamy is an old Gaelic term which loosely translates to anal retentive.
Title: Re: When is a photo Altered per Alamy standards
Post by: etudiante_rapide on October 31, 2015, 17:19
I gather some people say they prefer images which haven't been digitally altered (maybe so there's no risk of anything odd showing up when printed large etc). In Alamy you can search on this.
As a result, pics marked 'altered' wouldn't be included in any search.  Even if only contrast and saturation had been adjusted.

it's as absurd as insisting to know my camera is a nikon , not caring if it is noiseful images
so the buyer can still choose it because it is a nikon produced image vs a well exposed noiseless
image shot with a PNS.
alamy can use a software to check any pixel movement of each image so as to assign them to the
unaltered section.
or they can just begin to accept only mobile cameras since this is 100% unaltered 8)

all in all, just overkill.