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sharpshot:
Just read in the alamy forum that Yuri is now selling the same photos he has on the micros as licensed on alamy.  I didn't believe it, so I looked and it is true.  If alamy allow this, what is the point of licensed images?  I thought that the buyers might like to know how the photo was previously used and that would be impossible if it was sold on the RF micros sites.

I am starting to wonder if it is worth building up a portfolio with alamy when they are letting people do this.  Wont the buyers just go to the microstock sites?

I have nothing against Yuri and if he is allowed to do this, then there is no reason why he shouldn't.  I just don't understand why alamy allow it.

MicrostockExp:
Yep it is true and Yuri explained himself on Microstockdiaries here
http://www.microstockdiaries.com/is-microstock-becoming-more-accepted-in-the-stock-photo-industry.html

vonkara:
-Interesting video from the Idambies link-
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZYr7JINMoc[/youtube]

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--- Quote from: sharpshot on November 09, 2008, 17:11 ---Just read in the alamy forum that Yuri is now selling the same photos he has on the micros as licensed on alamy.  I didn't believe it, so I looked and it is true.  If alamy allow this, what is the point of licensed images?  I thought that the buyers might like to know how the photo was previously used and that would be impossible if it was sold on the RF micros sites.

I am starting to wonder if it is worth building up a portfolio with alamy when they are letting people do this.  Wont the buyers just go to the microstock sites?

I have nothing against Yuri and if he is allowed to do this, then there is no reason why he shouldn't.  I just don't understand why alamy allow it.

--- End quote ---


no alamy does NOT allow this.  This was a mistake and Yuri has acknowledged that in that link to microstock diaries and is fixing the problem.  It was a apparently a third party distributor who put the images on Alamy. 

Alamy states on their submitter page


--- Quote ---Tips and legal considerations

To ensure customer confidence in your images and avoid potential legal problems:

    * you cannot change the licence type for an image once it is set.
    * you must not submit the same or similar images as different licence type
--- End quote ---

alamy source

so NO... you CANNOT license an image as both RM and RF at the same time.  And once an image is licensed as RF it can never be licensed as RM, even if it is taken off the RF sites.

sharpshot:
Wish I had read microstock diaries before the alamy forum.  Here's what Yuri said over there, for those that don't have the time to find it.

"One of my third party distributors has put all my images in Alamy under RM. We are currently investigating this and I will require the images removed immediately. We are in the black as to why this agency has done so, especially when considering that just one single search on my name on Alamy would reveal that all the images are already online. I will be contacting Alamy about this also.
Yuri"

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