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« on: June 22, 2007, 10:43 »
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Hi all

I just got an invitation to join Albumo albumo.com, a new micro site.

I don't have the time but maybe some of you might.

Yanik

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« Last Edit: July 07, 2007, 11:57 by kosmikkreeper »


« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 10:54 »
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Thanks for the invite.

I'd just like to say that I'm not sure if all these new sites is all that great and I personally will not be submitting to more sites.  I find it a waste of time to submit in hopes of success.  The only new site I'm looking to get into is Corbis - and thats even a question mark because I don't know their terms - but you know that they will try and make a good splash.

« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 11:29 »
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The site looks ok, but i am not sure there is a point of submitting to more sites when i have a hard enough time keeping up with the ones I allready submit to.  I guess it might be a good place for newcomers to get lots of images on.. but will they get sales??

yeah, i keep forgetting about that corbis site?  when on earth is it going to come?

« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 15:13 »
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I received an invite as well - they offered to pay me $250 if I uploaded 1000 images (to be a member of their "elite 100 club"). I briefly checked it out - looks to me to be far too early to make it worth my time to join: apart from a few of anomalies, their top selling images have been DLed only once!

... still, I'm tempted by the $250. I'm suspicious that they'll become inordinately picky about accepting images once people near the 1000 mark, so I'll pass on this for now.

Here's the link for those curious about it.

« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 15:38 »
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................i have a hard enough time keeping up with the ones I allready submit to.

amen to that.... in fact, I'm seriously thinking of bailing out of two more that give me low sales....  It's a ton of work.  8) -tom

« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 16:13 »
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I received an invite as well - they offered to pay me $250 if I uploaded 1000 images (to be a member of their "elite 100 club"). I briefly checked it out - looks to me to be far too early to make it worth my time to join: apart from a few of anomalies, their top selling images have been DLed only once!

... still, I'm tempted by the $250. I'm suspicious that they'll become inordinately picky about accepting images once people near the 1000 mark, so I'll pass on this for now.

Here's the link for those curious about it.


I understand it this way: you upload a 1000 images and then you are in the club. After that for every image you upload you get 10 cents. In this way cou can earn max $250. But that also means you have to upload 2500 images in addition to the 1000, equals 3500 images.


Well thats a step in the right direction for an agency to start, but for me the deal is not good enaugh yet..

« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2007, 09:02 »
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Where are all of these new sites coming from?  It reminds me of the influx of new sites a couple of years ago, most of which no longer exist.

No more for me.  At this point, they either have to stand out from the pack in some new, innovative way, or have some kind of a proven track record before I bite.   

LuckyO is the last new site to catch my attention right away, and it was due to three things: 1) Bryan's track record and experience with start-up companies, 2) a fresh site that doesn't appear to be just the same ol' regurgitated photo site, and 3) providing ways to meet and educate their contributors.

« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 14:12 »
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I like to join new sites, I give them a year and if they haven't taken off I am gone. So I joined Albumo today, my short experience so far: US based site, registration is easy, they don't ask for copies of documents etc, choice of three upload methods: web-based (5 images), java (max 150mb) and ftp (max 1GB), min requirement 800px and a max limit per image of 150mb (brilliant for some of my fractals), approval time was around 6h (love it!) and my approval ratio so far is 100% (love it even more!). They pay for uploading: 250-999 images uploaded $25 and then for each image 10cents. No categories (there are optional ones, but I ignored them), java and ftp work smoothly and fast and it reads meta data. From upload queue you have the possibility to batch edited things if you want and push all images at once into the approval queue, pretty straightforward and easy. So, tonight I will set Filezilla to work and upload my whole portfolio  ;D Here the link to my Portfolio SY
« Last Edit: June 28, 2007, 12:13 by hospitalera »

« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 14:25 »
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Looking good Hospitalera!

Best of luck there.

ikostudio

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 14:54 »
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Well, i try to join to this new site, and i like it!
Very nice, clean look, easy and fast...

And i already have a sold... :)
http://www.albumo.com/affiliate-referral/320/home


« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2007, 15:26 »
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Here is a quote from the agreement (@ http://albumo.com/licensing):

"Member also forfeits the right to remove submitted and approved for sale Content for 400 days since the date of initial upload."

As far as I know, that is the longest that any site requires content to be online (before deletion).

« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 15:32 »
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Fotolia requiered one year=364 days as they paid for submitted images.  :D I think it is only just. SY

« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2007, 19:22 »
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I just signed up and started uploading.  I have to be honest - this is one of the BEST categorizing and keyword suggestion systems I have EVER seen.  I'm impressed.

« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2007, 19:57 »
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Things that called my attention in the agreement:

By uploading content, intended for sale, such as images, photographs, illustrations files, Member agreement to give Albumo.com and all members of Website, through the direct use of Website, perpetual, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to use Content for any purpose including publication, displaying, modification, and creation of derivative works. (Other members can use my images for free???)

By uploading photographs, illustrations, video files, animations, data files, and other material (Content) to Albumo.com, Member gives Albumo.com, a perpetual, world-wide, non-exclusive privilege and license to use, reproduce, publish, market, sublicense and sell to third parties any Content uploaded or moved by Member to the sale folder in accordance with our Content Upload Rules and accepted by Albumo.com.
although I see elsewhere that we can remove them:
Albumo.com has the right to license Content, which is intended for sale, up until the time Member removes such Content from the Website.

Uploading of the Content found on other stock photography sites also results in the termination of this Agreement and your membership." (but I didn't see any point that it refers to exclusives only, as it seems the case, as next they speak of non-exclusives)

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2007, 07:43 »
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Adelaide - check the TOS for BigStock.  It has been a while since I read it but if I remember correctly, the language is virtually the same.  Essentially, they want to be able to use your images to advertise their site (just like any other stock agency).  The perpetual use I believe covers them in case 3 years after you remove your images, an ad is found cached on the internet somewhere based on what a web crawler saw before you pulled your images.

« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2007, 21:56 »
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It looks pretty good for a new site....I tried to do some searches and they came up pretty well.....i must say it looks good....will KIV and may join it...

« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2007, 05:50 »
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Yeah I agree, the site is better then I first thought. I just started to upload image on there. Hope to reach the 1000 before the 100 club is full..

« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2007, 06:09 »
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Yeah I agree, the site is better then I first thought. I just started to upload image on there. Hope to reach the 1000 before the 100 club is full..
What is so good about it?  From what I here they are accepting everything (good to reach the 1000, but bad from a designers perspective).

What makes a site good is sales.  What makes you think this will be better than any other new site that doesn't find its feet. (I understand it is too early for them to be having sales but what sets them apart etc - ie. I support LO as it has a quirkyness that the other sites dont).

« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2007, 06:30 »
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I think what makes them good is there upload system, it is even better than StockXpert I think. And they invest that means they are serious about selling images.

dbvirago

« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2007, 09:27 »
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Yeah, they are doing a couple of things right. One, they had a fully functional operational site up before releasing it, and they are spending money now to get the images, which implies a commitment.

Of the 3 new sites I have seen in the last few weeks, this appears to be the best.

But you're right - no sales, no business

« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2007, 09:54 »
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It looks good. For 251 uploaded images you get 25$, it's better then my 7 months on Featurepics, LO and Canstock  ;D

« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2007, 07:40 »
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yeah it looked good to me until I realized they sell ALL the photos at $1 no matter what size .......

« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2007, 08:33 »
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yeah it looked good to me until I realized they sell ALL the photos at $1 no matter what size .......

This was my question too. Jon from Albumo send me this :
"● Why is there different price availability for various images?
To best serve to our customer needs and to keep low prices, our images are offered in different sizes for a different price.  Image ranking system also allows us to reward our artists and to encourage the creators of stock photography to upload only best images.  Here is a brief example of our image ranking system.

If image was purchased (downloaded) less then 5 times its only available in its Original size for 1 credit.  If it was purchased more then 5 times but less then 15 its being offered in two sizes Large and Original for 1 and 2 credits respectively, and so on.  Please keep in mind that all our images can be purchased for as low as 1 credit (or 85 cents).  "

 902x600 pixels
(12.5x8.3 " @ 72 dpi) 1 credit(s)   
 1805x1200 pixels
(6x4 " @ 300 dpi) 2 credit(s)   
 3610x2400 pixels
(12x8 " @ 300 dpi) 3 credit(s)   
 4309x2865 pixels
(14.4x9.6 " @ 300 dpi) 4 credit(s) 



Andres, if you lost a link to Albumo feel free to use this one  ;D
http://albumo.com/affiliate-referral/424/home
« Last Edit: June 30, 2007, 08:42 by jacus »

« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2007, 08:46 »
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lol jacus, unfortunately I am already signed up :)
Thank you for the information, this makes more sense, back to uploading then.

« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2007, 08:53 »
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And the review time is soo much faster then at snapvillage... SY

« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2007, 13:13 »
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Good news, albumo does reject photo's even some that where approved by DT so they are looking for some level of quality

Olga

« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2007, 03:48 »
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Just noticd something when editing the uploads. If you select a category, you will get a list of keywords. You can select multiple and add them to your own keywords.

Olga

« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2007, 19:28 »
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Has anyone received their 25.00 after uploading more than 250?

« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2007, 02:30 »
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Yes! 513 on line  ;D SY

« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2007, 07:02 »
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Yes! 513 on line  ;D SY
:) excellent I hope the sales will be as fast as the review times!!! so far I like this site.

« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2007, 10:48 »
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I know that those with low sales shouldn't throw stones BUT this from their front page has me wondering
"After your images have been uploaded and approved, we'll buy them. Your account will be credited with $25 right away! "
Does we'll buy them mean that they are paying you ten cents an image to use the image however they see fit?  Afterall, according to their website thy just "bought" 250 of your images for $25.00
judy

« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2007, 14:56 »
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I know that those with low sales shouldn't throw stones BUT this from their front page has me wondering
"After your images have been uploaded and approved, we'll buy them. Your account will be credited with $25 right away! "
Does we'll buy them mean that they are paying you ten cents an image to use the image however they see fit?  Afterall, according to their website thy just "bought" 250 of your images for $25.00
judy


rosta....  you know that's how I read that too.  That was the 1st impression I got...   I didn't think it was too clear..... curious exactly what does that mean... 8)-tom

« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2007, 06:57 »
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I know that those with low sales shouldn't throw stones BUT this from their front page has me wondering
"After your images have been uploaded and approved, we'll buy them. Your account will be credited with $25 right away! "
Does we'll buy them mean that they are paying you ten cents an image to use the image however they see fit?  Afterall, according to their website thy just "bought" 250 of your images for $25.00
judy

They changed this. Now we read :
"After your images have been uploaded and approved your account will be credited with $25 right away! "
I've tried to remove one of my images (just testing). It doesn't work! I've stopped uploading.

« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2007, 16:21 »
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May I suggest to have this thread's subject changed to the site's name? I'm changing it in my post, I'm not sure it will work.

« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2007, 11:09 »
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I've tried to remove one of my images (just testing). It doesn't work! I've stopped uploading.
It was fixed. They are fast. Now we can remove our images.

« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2007, 05:19 »
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hi,

today, i reached the 100 club :)
 i think its a site its worth to get a chance, i like it, that the site also spend money to get photos. so i think they know what they do.

and they are very fast with approving :-)
and they take nearly 100%,
only the IPTC data dont apear at all pictures, so i have to make it manuel for 48 files.....

join it, i think its worth

http://albumo.com/affiliate-referral/333/portfolio [nofollow]


fritz

« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2007, 00:52 »
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Did anyone get any sales from them yet?

« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2007, 06:03 »
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Yes, if you sort a search by "most downloaded" you can see it. Some sales don't seem to be realistic, seem to be from the testing phase. SY

« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2007, 19:18 »
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I started uploading yesterday, first just 6 images, today 50.  Really simple and fast, and some images uploaded tonight were already reviewed.  No rejections so far (what is not necessarily good - let's see what happens to a couple of not-too-good ones I uploaded tonight).

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2007, 07:04 »
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Any one had sales yet?
or had referrees who have had sales?
or referred AndreR (or anyone else in the 100 club)?

« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2007, 08:56 »
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I am in the 100 club.  No sales yet but still made more than with all my time with FP and could catch LO without making a sale.  Just need to find enough photos to get the $250 extra cash.  Better get out and take some :)

« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2007, 09:01 »
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I am in the 100 club (referred by ajn) and have referred andresr (gracias amigo ;-) As far as I now he hadn't had any sales so far, SY

« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2007, 03:44 »
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SY, you are one lucky girl....kekeke.....with Andresr signed up under you, you don't have to sell a thing....

« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2007, 04:07 »
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Still no sales yet but I see that others are selling a few.  I think they are probably building up the images before pushing for buyers.  They are going to be a big site if they continue as they have started.  I estimate they have around 90,000 images already.

« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2007, 05:59 »
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Is anyone else having issues with IPTC data.  I have had a high fail rate.  I think a lot of the problem is that my description doesn't fit their criteria (25-250 characters) so it has deleted it.

 ??? ??? :'( :'(

« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2007, 06:50 »
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Is anyone else having issues with IPTC data.  I have had a high fail rate.  I think a lot of the problem is that my description doesn't fit their criteria (25-250 characters) so it has deleted it.

 ??? ??? :'( :'(

I haven't had any problems with IPTC data. I uploaded over 250 last week and all look ok.

However, I haven't had a single image viewed yet, never mind downloaded!

I am curious to know how long this site has been and will remain in the 'building up its portfolio' phase before it intends to start being more pro-active in its marketing.

dbvirago

« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2007, 08:14 »
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Yes, if you sort a search by "most downloaded" you can see it. Some sales don't seem to be realistic, seem to be from the testing phase. SY

Yeah, I doubt any image has sold 51 times, much less two.

The most sold picture on LO only had about 22 sales last I checked. But there are some sales trickling in.

« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2007, 18:19 »
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IPTC data in description fails if the description has more than 250 characters.

One odd thing that happens to me is that parenthesis are not allowed.  However if I upload images with parenthesis in the description and the description reads fine, they're accepted.  But if I have to edit the description like when it's over 250 characters, then I can't use parenthesis.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2007, 00:50 »
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Hi!

Yes, their IPTC parsing algorithm seems to be a bit strict. Out of ~900 photos which I uploaded yesterday, 50-100 did not make it because this strict IPTC parsing algorithm. I will not spend the time to update the description manually and I will not change the IPTC data and re-upload, so that's simply 50-100 photos less from me which they will get.

If they see that the field is too long, simply cut it and add "..." at the end. Better than no photo at all.

Just my two (Euro) cent,
Michael

« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2007, 16:25 »
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Hi again,

Generally I have to say that Albumo did everything right for a startup site. A very streamlined upload process including an easy way to assign model releases. Additionally a reward for uploading photos. They made me uploading a large part of my portfolio and I'm now part of their Albumo's 100 program. If they continue that way then I think they will become one of the more succesful stock agencies.

Definitely a nice start...I should probably add them to Microstock Monitor...hmmm ;-)

All the best,
Michael

« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2007, 16:32 »
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Yes! Do so and if you can include also "images uploaded" that would be perfect ;-) I agree, they started off at the same time as snapvillage - but what a difference. Only thing is - I would love to know WHO they are, also if I have my suspicions (positive ones ;-) SY

« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2007, 17:42 »
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I wrote and explained that I although I understood their reasoning for wanting images left up for 400 days I was uncomfortable in signing on because of that.  They wrote back and told me that as long as I did not take the sign on bonus money being offered then I was free to remove my images and cancel my account at any time.
Judy

« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2007, 14:50 »
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I like this email I just received from them.  They mean business.  Look out istock ;D

Dear Artist,

We are happy to see you contributing to the fast growing Albumo.com! Here is the monthly update on our future plans and current progress:

Our Plans:
In order to grow strong & competitive on the royalty free market, Albumo will start a massive advertisement campaign after our photo stock reaches a mark of at least 200,000 images. Meanwhile, Albumo is the rapidly growing royalty free community with over 100,000 images at hand.

To speed up the process and to help us start advertising your art work sooner, we encourage you to spread the word about Albumo and invite your fellow artists so they could contribute as well. To do that with the pleasure of 10% royalties, please use our Referral Program links!

Current Progress:
Our Marketing & Development teams are currently working on three main tasks, which involve active improvement and further development of Albumo.com. These tasks are as follows:

   1. Optimization of Albumo programming system in order to reach a more robust responsiveness of the website.
   2. Development of a personal profile page through which artists could actively promote and sell their works. The personal profile will have a variety of features that will enhance members communication through bloggs and social (professional) networks.
   3. Finalization of our marketing strategy that will allow a quick capture of the royalty free market.

We thank you for all the excellent and hard work you have done so far!

 

Truly Yours,

Albumo.com

« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2007, 16:28 »
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I just had a quick look at their site and all the photos seem to be selling for 1 credit regardless of size (even a 16mp fractal) I presume credits are selling for $1 so 50c per photo not a great deal.

Hang on was this the site where once you have 5 Dls on an image then proper prices kicked in? Ok for those with lean mean portfolios but for those with low interest portfolios (where your Dls are spread through out the portfolio) not a great deal.

price list

not keen on the size bands

600 x 800
2mp
10 mp
original size

I have a 8 mp camera so until an image is DLed 16 times I will only earn 50c and then I can only earn $1 until i reach 50 DLs

20 credits (50% for us) for unlimited resale licence seems a bit cheap

Strange both the best sellers are 51 Dls each and by Photoshow obviously one of the first major player to sign up.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2007, 17:09 by fintastique »

dbvirago

« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2007, 20:37 »
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Hopefully they are about ready to ramp up and take off.

I've seen a lot of referral links in this thread, some obvous and some not no much.

Anyway, anyone not there yet and still want to, here's mine.

http://albumo.com/affiliate-referral/400/home

thanks

« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2007, 14:52 »
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Just signed up with them myself - I agree with the 8MP camera remark - that 10+ band is painful (and, I'm willing to bet, will result in some unscrupulous "upsizing" via the various tools out there).

On the plus side, having just struggled with some updates to fotolia, the bulk upload feature at Albumo is a delight - even if it didn't pick up my meta tags...

Here's hoping they take off. :)

« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2007, 10:02 »
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still no sales, but im patient.....

@daneel, i use your monitor - thanks for it.... and it wil be fine to have albumo also

« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2007, 13:52 »
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Finding the site very slow with a long drag on pages to load.

How is it for you?


 

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