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Agency Based Discussion => Bigstock.com => Topic started by: Uncle Pete on August 08, 2014, 09:28

Title: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 08, 2014, 09:28
Bigstock Partner - Single Unit Merchandise

The description doesn't say use, although double the usual sub rate.

Partner?
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: scottbraut on August 08, 2014, 13:04
It's somewhat self-explanatory (or tries to be) - that's a single unit of merchandise, ;) so -- for example -- a single mug, magnet, t-shirt, etc., sold through Bigstock's partner program.

Best,

Scott
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: dirkr on August 08, 2014, 14:36
That's a bit disappointing...
Sounds like a partner is running some kind of POD shop.
When years ago Fotolia introduced their API and partners like that came up, there was a lot of noise in the forums, as the general understanding was that such merchandise (t-shirt, mug, poster...) would require an EL.
At the end most people settled down, as the understanding was that every such sale would lead to a credit sale of the highest resolution - the explanation was that this deal is similar to an end customer buying a regular license and ordering it printed elsewhere.

Now we find something similar here, but not with big size credit sales but only double subs rate...

No incentive to start uploading to Bigstock again, that much is certain...
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: scottbraut on August 08, 2014, 16:33
Hi Dirkr,

Just to clarify - this is a single (1) copy of an item, so it's a single mug or keychain for one person.  It is not a single payment for multiple copies of an item.  If a customer buys (5) copies of a keychain or mug, the royalty would be the equivalent of (5) individual licenses.   

Best,

Scott
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: cuppacoffee on August 08, 2014, 16:36
How can that be enforced/policed? If they buy this single unit image what is to prevent them from making multiple items?
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: dirkr on August 08, 2014, 17:00
Hi Dirkr,

Just to clarify - this is a single (1) copy of an item, so it's a single mug or keychain for one person.  It is not a single payment for multiple copies of an item.  If a customer buys (5) copies of a keychain or mug, the royalty would be the equivalent of (5) individual licenses.   

Best,

Scott

Scott, I understood that. But still it is a very low royalty. The one (end-)customer is likely buying only a single product anyway. So no way he qualifies for the volume rebate that a subscription plan offers. Or half of that. So why are we getting double subscription royalties and not full size credit royalties?
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: Pixart on August 11, 2014, 00:51
I am so sick of seeing these sales that I opted out last week.  They were from Cafe Press and i think Zazzle.
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: Beppe Grillo on August 11, 2014, 02:19
How can that be enforced/policed? If they buy this single unit image what is to prevent them from making multiple items?

Honest people will be honest

Dishonest people will be dishonest
And if they really want to cheat they can find the whole Shutterstock collection for free on torrent sites…
So?
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: Batman on August 27, 2014, 11:12
How can that be enforced/policed? If they buy this single unit image what is to prevent them from making multiple items?

Honest people will be honest

Dishonest people will be dishonest
And if they really want to cheat they can find the whole Shutterstock collection for free on torrent sites…
So?

I think you are right any site or person could cheat the system in many ways. I'll believe that SS and the people who paid for a download are honest.
Title: Re: What Exactly Does This Mean?
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 27, 2014, 15:08
Thanks for the help, I didn't see the first reply. Now it makes more sense.

Hi Dirkr,

Just to clarify - this is a single (1) copy of an item, so it's a single mug or keychain for one person.  It is not a single payment for multiple copies of an item.  If a customer buys (5) copies of a keychain or mug, the royalty would be the equivalent of (5) individual licenses.   

Best,

Scott