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« on: November 04, 2013, 02:13 »
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Anybody using filters in Lee System?
I'm going to get Lee system (holder and ND filters) for my FX (Nikon d700 with 24-70/2,8) and I already have Heliopan 77mm Slim polariser with only one thread... Is there any option that it works with Lee system? Is there any special adaptor ring or something? I believe polariser should be first and then ND filters in holder?

Thank you for help!
« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 03:28 by Ariene »


« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 02:43 »
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I don't think so, if the polariser doesn't have a front thread.
In my opinion, Lee is expensive and I don't think it is much better than Cokin. I wasn't happy with the degree of softening the resin filters introduce. If you can do what you need to digitally it would be better than putting filters on.

« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 03:33 »
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You're right, every another filter is giving less quality, I can see that. My Heliopan (SH-PMC Slim) has only good (great) opinions but it's giving softer image. Sometimes stock agencies doesn't accept it and reject images :( But, there are situations that you just need the filter and can't do the effect with post processing...
« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 03:35 by Ariene »

« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 07:29 »
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I use Lee if the situation is right.  I love the BIG STOPPER.  You can get really creative with it.  I also have ND filters and a polarizer.  If you are using an effects filter in combination with a polarizer you will need a rotation attachment, which allows you to rotate your polarizer independently of the other split filter (the polarizer is not split). If you are ONLY using a polarizer then the standard one attachment system is fine. Here are a couple of shots with the BIG STOPPER.


Ron

« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 07:39 »
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I use Lee if the situation is right.  I love the BIG STOPPER.  You can get really creative with it.  I also have ND filters and a polarizer.  If you are using an effects filter in combination with a polarizer you will need a rotation attachment, which allows you to rotate your polarizer independently of the other split filter (the polarizer is not split). If you are ONLY using a polarizer then the standard one attachment system is fine. Here are a couple of shots with the BIG STOPPER.

I want a big stopper, but they are hard to get in Ireland, or crazy expensive. I havent found them on eBay yet for affordable prices. I guess its just an expensive tool.

« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 07:47 »
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I use Lee if the situation is right.  I love the BIG STOPPER.  You can get really creative with it.  I also have ND filters and a polarizer.  If you are using an effects filter in combination with a polarizer you will need a rotation attachment, which allows you to rotate your polarizer independently of the other split filter (the polarizer is not split). If you are ONLY using a polarizer then the standard one attachment system is fine. Here are a couple of shots with the BIG STOPPER.

I want a big stopper, but they are hard to get in Ireland, or crazy expensive. I havent found them on eBay yet for affordable prices. I guess its just an expensive tool.

Yes, true.  I got mine on Ebay and was lucky to get it from New York, but it wasn't cheap if I recall and I definitely haven't made my money back from images shot with it, but it's a lot of fun to use. I will be using is a bit in Fiji next month.

fritz

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 07:49 »
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I use Lee if the situation is right.  I love the BIG STOPPER.  You can get really creative with it.  I also have ND filters and a polarizer.  If you are using an effects filter in combination with a polarizer you will need a rotation attachment, which allows you to rotate your polarizer independently of the other split filter (the polarizer is not split). If you are ONLY using a polarizer then the standard one attachment system is fine. Here are a couple of shots with the BIG STOPPER.




I want a big stopper, but they are hard to get in Ireland, or crazy expensive. I havent found them on eBay yet for affordable prices. I guess its just an expensive tool.


No, it's not!   If we're talking about the ND filter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171041399384?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 07:53 »
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I use Lee if the situation is right.  I love the BIG STOPPER.  You can get really creative with it.  I also have ND filters and a polarizer.  If you are using an effects filter in combination with a polarizer you will need a rotation attachment, which allows you to rotate your polarizer independently of the other split filter (the polarizer is not split). If you are ONLY using a polarizer then the standard one attachment system is fine. Here are a couple of shots with the BIG STOPPER.


That's not a big stopper. This is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lee-Big-Stopper-100mm-10-Stop-Neutral-Density-Filter-ND-4x4-/271306212155?pt=Camera_Filters&hash=item3f2b1c433b


I want a big stopper, but they are hard to get in Ireland, or crazy expensive. I havent found them on eBay yet for affordable prices. I guess its just an expensive tool.


No, it's not!   If we're talking about the ND filter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171041399384?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 08:01 »
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But is a "big stopper" any better than a variable ND, which is really just two polarisers stacked on each other?

fritz

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 08:06 »
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But is a "big stopper" any better than a variable ND, which is really just two polarisers stacked on each other?
I asked the same question to myself, and the price is 20x higher. Is it 20x better?

« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 08:26 »
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But is a "big stopper" any better than a variable ND, which is really just two polarisers stacked on each other?
I asked the same question to myself, and the price is 20x higher. Is it 20x better?

I suppose it depends on who you ask but to me, yes.  And you can use it with other filters to create interesting images.  Since Lee filters are flat glass or resin filters they do not vignette when you stack them.

Ron

« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 09:41 »
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@ Fritz, Paul, Mantis


I had a cheap 5 euro filter in front of my 2000 euro glass, and it was a mess.

I think paying 100-150 euro for a filter is not too bad, but the Lee Big stopper is close to 200 which is a bit too much.


« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 11:51 »
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@ Fritz, Paul, Mantis


I had a cheap 5 euro filter in front of my 2000 euro glass, and it was a mess.

I think paying 100-150 euro for a filter is not too bad, but the Lee Big stopper is close to 200 which is a bit too much.

But I would still want to compare them, because I consider Lee Filters make a bit of a mess. Maybe the Big Stopper is a lot better than using a couple of polarisers (you can use a linear and a circular to pull this trick) and from my experience I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of decent polarisers worked as well as a Lee ND filter. The only way to know is to run a comparison. I suspect there will be a bit of a colour cast with either method, there certainly will be with polarisers, but WB adjustments should fix that.

Ron

« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 11:53 »
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@ Fritz, Paul, Mantis


I had a cheap 5 euro filter in front of my 2000 euro glass, and it was a mess.

I think paying 100-150 euro for a filter is not too bad, but the Lee Big stopper is close to 200 which is a bit too much.

But I would still want to compare them, because I consider Lee Filters make a bit of a mess. Maybe the Big Stopper is a lot better than using a couple of polarisers (you can use a linear and a circular to pull this trick) and from my experience I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of decent polarisers worked as well as a Lee ND filter. The only way to know is to run a comparison. I suspect there will be a bit of a colour cast with either method, there certainly will be with polarisers, but WB adjustments should fix that.

The first cheap filter gave me a dense blue cast from the middle of the photo, almost covering the frame, couldnt be corrected in PS, threw it out. The other set of filters, fitting in the cokin system gave me an orange cast, which I could correct, but they made the images soft, so I threw them out.  :)

« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 14:04 »
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Ok, after study and many problems I choosed:

Lee Foundation Kit - (next time will just upgrade to rotate)
Lee 77mm Wide Angle Adaptor
Lee ND 0.6 Grad (hard) and Lee ND 0.9 Grad (soft) - for start I think that's enough?
Lee Big Stopper - 100.00
Lee Filters 105mm Polariser & Ring
Lee Polariser Adaptor Ring

Many hairs off my head and bank account empty, but filters are coming! Yay :D

Anybody wants to buy me (new) Heliopan Slim HT SH-PMC, 77mm Polariser? ;)

Thanks for images above. Would love to see more samples - it's beautiful!

« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 14:36 »
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We're definitely convinced Lee users. The 0.6 ND soft edge grad is pretty much a permanent fixture on the 24-105mm for outdoor work, and no post-process work will give you that extra 1+ stop of foreground shadow detail. The Lee grads are very neutral and don't need correction, unlike a lot of others, particularly Hi-tech. Also, with the super wide angle adapter, there is no vignetting on the 16-35mm on full frame.

With the Big Stopper you really need to profile the camera with the filter on, white balance is not enough for correction.

We've got a dual polariser variable ND for the GH2, and it's hopeless beyond about 6 stops; the density is very uneven, and it's no match for the Big Stopper.

Ron

« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2013, 14:40 »
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Ok, after study and many problems I choosed:

Lee Foundation Kit - (next time will just upgrade to rotate)
Lee 77mm Wide Angle Adaptor
Lee ND 0.6 Grad (hard) and Lee ND 0.9 Grad (soft) - for start I think that's enough?
Lee Big Stopper - 100.00
Lee Filters 105mm Polariser & Ring
Lee Polariser Adaptor Ring

Many hairs off my head and bank account empty, but filters are coming! Yay :D

Anybody wants to buy me (new) Heliopan Slim HT SH-PMC, 77mm Polariser? ;)

Thanks for images above. Would love to see more samples - it's beautiful!
WHere did you find the big stopper for 100 pounds?

« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2013, 14:44 »
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Ok, after study and many problems I choosed:

Lee Foundation Kit - (next time will just upgrade to rotate)
Lee 77mm Wide Angle Adaptor
Lee ND 0.6 Grad (hard) and Lee ND 0.9 Grad (soft) - for start I think that's enough?
Lee Big Stopper - 100.00
Lee Filters 105mm Polariser & Ring
Lee Polariser Adaptor Ring

Many hairs off my head and bank account empty, but filters are coming! Yay :D

Anybody wants to buy me (new) Heliopan Slim HT SH-PMC, 77mm Polariser? ;)

Thanks for images above. Would love to see more samples - it's beautiful!
WHere did you find the big stopper for 100 pounds?


http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/shop-by-brand/lee-filters/lee-100mm-system/100-filters-filter-sets/lee-big-stopper.html

That's where we buy our Lee bits.

Ron

« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2013, 14:53 »
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Ok, after study and many problems I choosed:

Lee Foundation Kit - (next time will just upgrade to rotate)
Lee 77mm Wide Angle Adaptor
Lee ND 0.6 Grad (hard) and Lee ND 0.9 Grad (soft) - for start I think that's enough?
Lee Big Stopper - 100.00
Lee Filters 105mm Polariser & Ring
Lee Polariser Adaptor Ring

Many hairs off my head and bank account empty, but filters are coming! Yay :D

Anybody wants to buy me (new) Heliopan Slim HT SH-PMC, 77mm Polariser? ;)

Thanks for images above. Would love to see more samples - it's beautiful!
WHere did you find the big stopper for 100 pounds?


http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/shop-by-brand/lee-filters/lee-100mm-system/100-filters-filter-sets/lee-big-stopper.html

That's where we buy our Lee bits.
THanks, 3 months wait list. PFff. I better order one now I have it when summer starts.

« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2013, 16:04 »
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Ron

« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2013, 16:41 »
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WHere did you find the big stopper for 100 pounds?

Here: http://www.morco.uk.com/filters/big-stopper.html
Thank you, also out of stock. I will see if I can find something in Northern Ireland and just pick it up from the store.

« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2013, 16:48 »
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Thank you, also out of stock. I will see if I can find something in Northern Ireland and just pick it up from the store.

It's pretty unlikely you'll find anyone with a Big Stopper on the shelf (at normal price). Robert White had some free stock on 1st November, but those have gone now. For the last 3 years at least, it's been a case of placing your order and waiting. That's what we had to do.                                         

Ron

« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 16:52 »
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I found one for 129 euro in Dublin, will go and check the store out on Saturday.

« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 01:41 »
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Why so hurry? Even if not in stock, it's possible to wait one week, as I am. Ask in shop I've linked, how much waiting.

Ron

« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2013, 06:15 »
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Why so hurry? Even if not in stock, it's possible to wait one week, as I am. Ask in shop I've linked, how much waiting.
100 pound plus shipping is more expensive then 129 euro.


 

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