Snobbery?

With a Leica M60 your photos will be superior to those of others �

Beautiful piece, limited edition, for the New Russians, Rich Chinese Billionaires or Disaffected Arab Princes: 16,000 �.

No LCD, this is the ultimate class!
I think they should remove even the RAW recorder: to rise to the perfection of pure ideas!
So that you can focus the "concept" of your photo�

(To use only with white gloves, of course)

http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-Edition-60/Details

Hopefully it hasn't got a built in light-meter so that the purity of the buyers' photographic understanding will be utilised to the full.

Shame that I can like a post only once...

But if you're looking for a meter-less camera, look no further:

http://uk.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-A

And for a mere � 3.850,- too...

It's a collectable item, smart investment. That's all it is.

who cares? leica is a great camera, but is not an image work tool...who can afford Leica simply loves pictures but doesn't need to make money out of them

That's an interesting thought - Leica has probably aimed as much or more at high-end hobbyists as at professionals for the last 50 years - but it's certainly not the whole story http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Exceptional_photographers_who_use_Leica_equipment:

Leica was great cameras (not so sure that is was so great without good lenses���).
Today Leica is just a status symbol.
Technically I think that a  Lumix PANASONIC GM5 is better (and costs 20 times less) 

sorry you're waaaaay wrong 

i owned for 5 years a complete Leica M system (leica M6, Leica M9, summicron 35, summicron 90, elmarit 21mm), so i'm talking with some experience...Versability is the reason that led me to sold everything for a nikon system....not quality, AT ALL

Now i must REMEMBER two things:

- First: Leica M is made for and is limited to reportage and travel picture...don't have AF, no video, no timelapse,no zoom, no filter mount (no landscape photography)...but yes it's an outstanding camera for those works, and there is nothing to discuss about it.

-Second: About the price...Leica is NOT more expensive than all TOP DSLR camera from Canon and Nikon
Here Market prices:
Leica M: 6000� (warranty 5 years)
Nikon D4 (with 4 years warranty) 5400�
Canon EOS 1dx 5450�
Canon EOS 1dc 12000�
I don't see big differences, you?....lens price? same just take a look to price list and compare prime Nikon/canon zooms vs Leica....


If nowdays is possible to live only on travel/wedding and news reportages, Leica still is THE camera....personally i can't, but this has nothing to deal with Leica quality

ps. Yes Leica makes many "snobby" cameras for collection...like the one in your link...btw their business lies also much on fat chinese/russian full of money

Leica makes some exceptional cameras the problem is that the craftsmanship doesn't always support the profitability that other production manufacturers can enjoy.  They offset that with various special edition cameras.

I've had an M6 TTL and I had a MP - I paired both bodies with a 35mm and 50mm Summicron (f/2) lenses.  The image quality from those lenses was incredible.  There was almost no distortion even on the 35mm - I mean you could take a picture of a brick wall the lines were straight.

I sold both because they are film cameras and if I'm out shooting and an image turns out that I like, I couldn't really do anything with the image aside from create a print.

There are still quite a few wedding photographers out there that are shooting Leica - both film Leicas and the M9 are being used all the time.  Some photographers prefer the M9 over the M240 because of the "look" it gives.  I would love to own a M240 (actually, I'd love to own the new M-P) and I may end up picking one up eventually.

They are awesome cameras and if you get a non-collector version, you can certainly see and tell the craftsmanship behind them.

To criticize a camera solely on price though is a bit short sighted. Seriously, compare the images out of a Pentax 645-Z and a Hasselblad H5D - there is a difference and it is noticable.

Take a look at this commercial....the images all have a specific "look".  That look is something that's acheivable by a specific camera....it's the "medium format look"

Ram Trucks Super Bowl Commercial Farmer

Leica M9's have a specific look.  Leica M Monochrome cameras have a specific look.  Leica M240s have a specific look.

It's all about what you want to achieve in your photography.  I mean even Nikon and Canon have a certain look about the images they produce.

I'd better hang on to my Leica R4s Mod P and Summicron lenses, then.

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on September 17, 2014, 11:24

I'd better hang on to my Leica R4s Mod P and Summicron lenses, then.

I cannot see the R series ever being especially collectible. .

No, nor can I. But it does take nice pictures, so I'll just make do with that.