Author Topic: New camera! (Eos 400D) (Read 7220 times)

Peter · « **on:** October 07, 2007, 03:56 »

Few days ago I bought new camera, Canon EOS 400D and 28-105 f3.5-4.5 II USM lens. And it is a whole new world for me! I fall in love with camera the very first day. It is so great machine!

But, my question is about sharpening the raw image? What settings do you use?

I use 100 for sharpening, and 50 for luminiscence image noise reduction.

(in photoshop CS3, raw editor).

stokfoto · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2007, 06:26 »

first, congratulations on your new camera.I hope you will enjoy it!(and I am pretty sure of that:)
as for the sharpening, the amount you applied sounded a little bit too much for me.I would apply it as little a possible infact I would even try not to apply it at all if it is not absolutely necessary as over sharpening creates a lot of noise and makes the image pretty useless if it needs to be up-sized.

just my two cents

Peter · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2007, 06:48 »

tnx, I am enyoing it so much!

yeah, but there is HUGE difference between unsharped raw, and sharped image. huge. and as I said, i set 50 for luminiscence noise reduction.

is it OK?

madelaide · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2007, 12:17 »

Chode,

I also have the 400D, with 17-40L and 28-135 IS. It's great to have a SLR again (my film SLR went dead a year ago).

Regards,
Adelaide

Kngkyle · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2007, 12:23 »

I just ordered one too. Should have it in 3 or so days. Can't wait to get it!

ptlee · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2007, 14:48 »

Nice camera, at a good price. You'll love it.

cheers.

Peter · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2007, 09:33 »

Thank you all, but nobody answered my question about sharpening raw images. how much is optimum?

dk · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2007, 09:43 »

I have in camera sharpening turned completely off and then just before exporting my final jpg from the raw i apply some unsharp mask at photoshop. Usually the sharpening amount doesn't exceed 100, radius no more than 1 pixel and no threshold at all. Hope this helps.

stokfoto · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2007, 10:42 »

I don't think we can be certain about what optimum parameteres are as I think it depends on the photograph,how good it's focused and what lens is used.But what we can do like DK indicated you can have your maximum setting ( I totally agree with the number he/she gave)and apply the possible minimum amount that will please the eye but won't be too much. I guess best is just about try and see method.

leaf · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2007, 10:46 »

I shoot in raw so no sharpening is done in the camera (like would be if you shoot in jpg mode)

When raw converting I set sharpening to 0

When i edit the image in photoshop I do all my editing and then save it as a tiff with NO sharpening - if i reduce noise (such as in the sky) I do it on a seperate layer.

I then flatten the image and sharpen it at around 75%, 1 or 2 pixels, and no threshold, change the color space and save it for uploading as a jpg.

Peter · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2007, 13:58 »

Thank you!

Also, what aperture sizes produce most shaprness? I tought the smallest will be sharpest, so I was using f25 or 28, but then I tried f14 and it was much sharper image. What do you reccomend for shooting small objects, such as apple, and to have depth of field on entire object, what aperture size is optimum (at focal length of 70-100mm for example).

hatman12 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2007, 14:45 »

No, on 'normal' lenses the sharpness or clarity peaks at about F14/F16 and then deteriorates due to diffraction.

In order to use F32 you should get a proper macro lens which will be optimised for small apertures.

You will see all of these things much more clearly with your new camera. It is a plain fact that the more advanced the camera, the more the deficiencies of lenses, exposure, focus etc will be shown.

sharply_done · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2007, 15:52 »

The sweet spot on a zoom lens is typically around 2 stops from fully open. This would be around f/8 for your lens.

You should never be shooting at an aperture greater than f/16 unless you have a very superior lens.

hatman12 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2007, 16:08 »

Hmmm... how did that text 'extremely angry with' get into my post?

And it won't edit out......

Leaf! Bug report!

Pixart · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2007, 23:59 »

I noticed the same on another thread by someone else and thought it was an odd thing to say. It's not just you.

Peter · « **Reply #15 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:24 »

Thank you all for advices!

Very usefull.

P.s.

your misterious words are probably censore from forum script for some words, hehehe.

Suvakov · « **Reply #16 on:** October 21, 2007, 22:19 »

No sharpening in the camera - only sharpen slightly as a last moment in PS. Customers prefer to sharpen themselves if necessary. IMHO.

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Author Topic: New camera! (Eos 400D) (Read 7220 times)

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