Author Topic: new camera (Read 11999 times)

gerg · « **on:** July 21, 2017, 10:56 »

Hello everyone,

i am a nikon user with an old d70s. The shutter is near to the end and i am looking for a new camera. My budget is arround 1300€ and i ve some idea of camera.
1st i want a full frame, i dont like the crop factor convertion especially for doing quick some math wih for ex focal lenght/ shutter speed etc.
2nd i like to shoot in natural light, so i want a low light camera.
3rd i want to stay with nikon because i ve a few lens for.
anf ofc a good manage of noise.

i ve spotted the nikon D3s, D8xx, D6xx and the D7xx.

my first fav could be the D3s, what do you recommend and please can you explain for please

Greg

langstrup · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2017, 15:07 »

It´s a no-brainer! Buy a Nikon D810

At this time the best pixels you can buy from Nikon. All our portfolio is shot on a Nikon D810 with a few exceptions

jonbull · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2017, 08:42 »

i'm a pentax user so i'm biased...but if you can stretch your budget i suggest the pentax k1.
cost 2/3 of nikon d810...same sensor...rugged as hell...
thousand of features that u can't find in any camera out there.

1- stabilized sensor for handhold photo and video up to 4 stop.
2- astroracer...the sensor moves to follow the star so you can't have blurred stripes with long shutter...if u shoot astrophotography u save 500 800 dollar, the cos of a good astroracer.
3- Pixel shift. if you shoot food still life in studio or landscape with not many wind, you obtain results that you can only have with medium format camera. the pixel shift move sensor to register 4 frames, create a bayer free image who rival medium format camera of 50 and more megapixel. if you see it you cannot believe.

there are other hundred feature not present in any camera. at 1800 dollar currently is the best camera for still out there for stock. with the 24-70 and 70-200 you have superb iq.

Mantis · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2017, 08:57 »

Quote from: Uber Images on July 21, 2017, 15:07

It´s a no-brainer! Buy a Nikon D810

At this time the best pixels you can buy from Nikon. All our portfolio is shot on a Nikon D810 with a few exceptions

Also shooting with a D810. love it, especially when the light is perfect. No noise. But it's almost $3,000 US, a bit over your budget. Rumors are out that in the coming days there will be a Nikon D820 announcement, so if you wait you might be able to pick up a D810 for much cheaper.

gerg · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2017, 15:37 »

Thanks for these suggest!

@UberImage, your portfolio is insane :O. I am not really fan with artificial lens flare effect but wow, quality of photo is here!

@jonbull
hum its sound goog for me! i am interested by the sony alpha9 too (but nor my budget) i really like how the photo look (tone, grain etc).
I take a look with this pentax K1.

@Mantis
Yeah i ve ear this rumor too, with the D5x and D850 wait and see... In the D8xx i like the low light and the low iso too thats a great point for me.

Bad Company · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2017, 17:28 »

You purchase what you are can afford and what brand you are familiar with.

Also I've noticed a lot of so called pro's that walk around with their big cameras at social events to show off -probably have a 'small tripod'

gerg · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2017, 23:44 »

hahah^^

ofc i will buy what i can afford.

sharpshot · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2017, 02:36 »

I like buying a cheap body because I don't think it matters much. The money I save goes on lenses. I do like having different sensor sizes, from full frame to my phone. They all have their uses. I have spent more on camera bodies in the past but it seemed like wasted money.

substancep · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2017, 03:39 »

I would probably get the D750 second hand, which can be had for around 1,100 euros on ebay. Been using the D610 for around two years. It's a great camera, great enough AF unless doing fast action, but my biggest gripe with it is the grip. It's a bit too narrow and short, and using it for the entire day with something like a 80-200 or 105 vr will make your fingers really sore. The D750 has a better grip as well as a tilting screen and the ability to change the aperture in live view, something Nikon STILL does not have in lower end bodies like the D610.

Fred · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2017, 06:16 »

Are your lenses FX or DX? You'll need to change out your DX lenses for FX if you want to take full advantage of the new body.

fred

gerg · « **Reply #10 on:** July 23, 2017, 06:39 »

Quote from: Fred on July 23, 2017, 06:16

Are your lenses FX or DX? You'll need to change out your DX lenses for FX if you want to take full advantage of the new body.

fred

i ve the:
AF-S 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5g ED, not my prefered lens but work well @ f8- f11
AF-S 50mm F1.8 D, great lens but i dont like the crop factor :/ on a DX (75mm),
AF 35-70mm f/3.3-4.5 not bad for street and outdoor
50mm f/1.8 Serie E, manual mode only, my prefered one for photo result
and a very poor Sigma 75-300mm f/4-5.6 DL Zoom, but i ve a lot of fun with this focal lenght on DX format.

my wichlist:

35mm f/1.8
105 or 135mm macro f/2.8
maybe the nikkor 85mm 1.8 the quality is really nice, but i dont like too much this focal lenght on DX
150-600mm tamron for wildlife photography.

but first in first it would be the 35mm and the macro lens.

gerg · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2017, 06:41 »

Quote from: substancep on July 23, 2017, 03:39

I would probably get the D750 second hand, which can be had for around 1,100 euros on ebay. Been using the D610 for around two years. It's a great camera, great enough AF unless doing fast action, but my biggest gripe with it is the grip. It's a bit too narrow and short, and using it for the entire day with something like a 80-200 or 105 vr will make your fingers really sore. The D750 has a better grip as well as a tilting screen and the ability to change the aperture in live view, something Nikon STILL does not have in lower end bodies like the D610.

Thanks for this feedback, i ve big hand so its a usefull info for me

and nice portfolio too!

gerg · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2017, 06:50 »

Quote from: sharpshot on July 23, 2017, 02:36

I like buying a cheap body because I don't think it matters much. The money I save goes on lenses. I do like having different sensor sizes, from full frame to my phone. They all have their uses. I have spent more on camera bodies in the past but it seemed like wasted money.

I m ok with you. I dont want the last more expensive camera/lens, i especially want the best match for me, i mean in first image looking (characteristic, distinctive) its important, and "easy" to use. Seriously i dont care about confort option and video 4k, just the flip screen is a nice gadget in some condition.
I cant do any more with this d70s

gerg · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2017, 10:04 »

Ok, i ve look many many photo on flickr and wow the combo D810 sigma art 35/50/85mm 1.4 is speechless. And I am not really fan with the render of the Pentax K1.
I continue looking and hope the D850 will be release soon.

jonbull · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2017, 15:15 »

Quote from: gerg on July 24, 2017, 10:04

Ok, i ve look many many photo on flickr and wow the combo D810 sigma art 35/50/85mm 1.4 is speechless. And I am not really fan with the render of the Pentax K1.
I continue looking and hope the D850 will be release soon.

well the render is subjective and clearly if you look flickr most are about how user post processed image.

all people who have used both pentax and nikon i know told me they prefer pentax. consider pentax multicoated is the most neutral and one of the best out there since the 70's so pentax rendering is neutral a bit colder...sigma is known to have a more warm tone.
persoanlly for features there is no comparison between the d810 and k1.
if you shoot mostly studio or food you can use pixel shift.
have a look at a file shot using normal mode and one with pixel shift applied. it's like having a foveon camera with 50 megapixel.

Chichikov · « **Reply #15 on:** July 25, 2017, 08:48 »

Quote from: Uber Images on July 21, 2017, 15:07

It´s a no-brainer! Buy a Nikon D810

At this time the best pixels you can buy from Nikon. All our portfolio is shot on a Nikon D810 with a few exceptions

Quote from: Mantis

Also shooting with a D810. love it, especially when the light is perfect. No noise. But it's almost $3,000 US, a bit over your budget. Rumors are out that in the coming days there will be a Nikon D820 announcement, so if you wait you might be able to pick up a D810 for much cheaper.

D810 is "old"
D850 has been officially announced yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epaRJ3eqKzk

So, as says Mantis the D810 will be available for a better price very soon.
But you should also consider that to mount cheap lenses on such a camera is a nonsense.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2017, 02:36 »

Quote from: sharpshot on July 23, 2017, 02:36

I like buying a cheap body because I don't think it matters much. The money I save goes on lenses. I do like having different sensor sizes, from full frame to my phone. They all have their uses. I have spent more on camera bodies in the past but it seemed like wasted money.

I can't agree with that. I went from the old Digital Rebel to a Canon 5D to 5d MkII to 6D and each time the new body came with huge improvements over the previous one, among them the introduction of automatic sensor cleaning in the 5DII, improved low-light performance in each newer body, automatic CA correction in the 6D along with GPS and lots of other stuff. The bodies are constantly being improved.

sharpshot · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2017, 03:23 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 27, 2017, 02:36

Quote from: sharpshot on July 23, 2017, 02:36
I like buying a cheap body because I don't think it matters much. The money I save goes on lenses. I do like having different sensor sizes, from full frame to my phone. They all have their uses. I have spent more on camera bodies in the past but it seemed like wasted money.
I can't agree with that. I went from the old Digital Rebel to a Canon 5D to 5d MkII to 6D and each time the new body came with huge improvements over the previous one, among them the introduction of automatic sensor cleaning in the 5DII, improved low-light performance in each newer body, automatic CA correction in the 6D along with GPS and lots of other stuff. The bodies are constantly being improved.

That's true but you don't have to pay a lot to get most of those things. I just buy the cheaper range, second hand or with a heavy discount. I would rather spend money on lenses because they last longer and hold their value more.

gerg · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2017, 09:39 »

Hi, i am still confuse about my choice

.

The D850 was announced but now i m "attracted" by the D500 for the image unprocessed looking but i m done with the APCS format so ...
For the lenses i ve choice a 105mm nikkor or 90mm tamron macro because i like close up and macrophotographie (ofc), especially for inssect and food, and work for portrait too.

For now my D70s is near to death, ive noise @ ISO 200 and the shutter is unsync :/ .......... with 120000+ shutter count

, and i m waiting for a few money to buy this new gear.

thanks for the replies!

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