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« on: July 24, 2008, 07:59 »
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I'm thinking about buying this camera on September,

would be the ultimate upgrade for me

from the gear i have only a 70-200 sigma 2.8 the rest is not for mention

anyway i would like to hear user's opinion about the camera and maybe

a couple of lenses

thanx

Vangelis


vonkara

« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 08:57 »
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i don't think you will find many users of this one. Maybe you can find some infos on the Istock forum, I already see threads on the 1ds MarkIII there.

Also if you want to see how the sensor perform at different iso settings and comparing with other cameras follow this link http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 09:24 »
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I would wait for the 5d upgrade.  It really isn't worth the cost.

vonkara

« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 09:28 »
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Exactly. After 16mpx the advantages are too small for that much money in a way

« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 09:56 »
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I would wait for the 5d upgrade. 
now I am not sure if there is ever gonna be a replacement for it since I have been waiting for too long now  I wish I could afford the 1ds mark iii :(
all we now about the new 5d is just rumors

have you noticed price of 5d went up  in Europe after cash back deal over?

« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 10:22 »
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I'm thinking about buying this camera on September,

would be the ultimate upgrade for me

from the gear i have only a 70-200 sigma 2.8 the rest is not for mention

anyway i would like to hear user's opinion about the camera and maybe

a couple of lenses

thanx

Vangelis

Why wouldn't you not mention your other lenses?

And does anyone else not read this and feel like they are reading a haiku? :)

michealo

« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 10:25 »
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Investing in good glass is a probably a better investment long term.

« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 10:37 »
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Well , If you are ready to spend all that money , my honest opinion is that you consider to replace those lenses that are not worth mentioning , and back that up with the reasonable price camera cause 1 Ds MKIII great no doubt, but the question is , do you really need that one for your work or whatever.

I dont know what camera are you using now, but lenses are long term investment , and they hold their price much longer than any camera ever will , lenses will be useful to you years from now , and most cameras will loose their price quite much in short period.

I remember when I was dreaming about 5D , it was way out of my budget , and recently I bough it for more than half of the price I had to pay for it a year and a half ago.








chumley

« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 10:41 »
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« Last Edit: August 23, 2008, 18:07 by chumley »

« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 12:05 »
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If you are crafty, you can get ISO 1600 images accepted too with a 30D.  I know I have been able to.  I can't even begin to imagine how amazing it would be to do that with every picture :)

cphoto

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 12:13 »
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It's a great camera.

I bought it as an investment to start shooting more seriously for the traditional agencies and get away from micros.

This camera is a tank and is pretty amazing.  I took it on the Yosemite Mist Trail and it got completely soaked in water but was still perfectly working.

Also the battery life is great, about 1500 shots, which is great when you do like me several days backpacking in the wilderness.

The camera is able to capture dynamic ranges never seen before with digital camera and the image quality is simply fantastic.

So far I did not have any focusing issue.

BUT for this camera you really need the best lenses.  I get excellent results with the 17-40L and 70-200L which are extremely sharp. The 24-105L is not as sharp as I would llke.  If you put an average or good lens you'll see the defects very fast.  Only use the BEST lenses or don't buy this camera.


« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2008, 02:45 »
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BTW, is there any RAW-files (.CR2) from this camera available anywhere? I need to test how fast they open on my old computer.

Upgrading both camera and computer would be very, very expensive...

« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2008, 03:41 »
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Upgrading both camera and computer would be very, very expensive...
Speaking from experience, you can't do one without the other. If you significantly upgrade your camera, you'll need to do the same with your computer.

« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 07:34 »
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Upgrading both camera and computer would be very, very expensive...
Speaking from experience, you can't do one without the other. If you significantly upgrade your camera, you'll need to do the same with your computer.

Correct.  And if your computer isn't super amazing, you are going to be disappointed.  When working with a file thats that big, you will not be able to get away with any speed.  Its one of the reasons I upgraded my computer.  Built it myself, saved a bunch of money but got a really good system that is really good so far

« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 08:58 »
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Well, it still would be easiest to get a .CR2 file to try it out...

And yes, my Power Mac with 4GB and twin processors were super amazing in 2005 :)

« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 11:11 »
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Well, it still would be easiest to get a .CR2 file to try it out...

And yes, my Power Mac with 4GB and twin processors were super amazing in 2005 :)

Too bad my calendar tells me that was 3 years ago :)

« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 12:38 »
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...This camera is a tank and is pretty amazing.  I took it on the Yosemite Mist Trail and it got completely soaked in water but was still perfectly working....

This tidbit filed away for future reference.  Good to know the weather sealing works as advertised.

You guys grumping about opening files on old systems-- I've got plenty of files I wouldn't even be able to *store* on my oldest computer.  I mean, seriously, how can you wedge in a 60MB+ PSD file onto a floppy that only holds 180K?  ???  ::)  ;D  I'm sure there are plenty of us around who well remember minicomputers with smaller disk packs than some of our larger PSD files...

« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2008, 13:56 »
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Well, it still would be easiest to get a .CR2 file to try it out...

And yes, my Power Mac with 4GB and twin processors were super amazing in 2005 :)

Too bad my calendar tells me that was 3 years ago :)

Yes, but it still crunches 5D files with good speed, and 1Ds mark III files aren't even double size.

« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2008, 14:57 »
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I just bought one today along with a 70-200L is   :) looking forward to the increased dynamic range and being able to crop and still have an xxl size. Have to wait till wed though for delivery  :-\

DanP68

« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2008, 15:16 »
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I considered both the 1Ds MkIII, as well as the regular 1D MkIII, for purchase.  As my avatar shows, I like to shoot sports and the 1D's are the ultimate sports cameras.

Unfortunately the MkIII line is quite controversial.  Go on any pro message forum, especially sports related, and you will read some colorful debates about the merits of the new autofocus system.  The first release was considered a disaster, as the 1D MkIII failed to track even simple subjects against anything but a clear sky. 

The firmware has been updated, and more people sing the praises of the MkIII.  But there are still plenty who feel the AF tracking is poor.  For a sports shooter, this is absolutely critical.

It is for this reason that the prices of the 1D MkII and 1Ds MkII have held pretty high.  The MkII's are in high demand from shooters who simply do not trust the MkIII.

So do you need a camera from the 1D line?  Probably not, if you are shooting landscape or general stock.  The 1D is a specialty camera, although for general usage it can hold its own against any other body.  It's also built to last and can take an amazing amount of abuse and extreme weather.

As has already been mentioned, the 5D is probably the ultimate microstock camera.  12.8mp gets you the very high resolution credit sales, and it is a full format camera.  That means great sharpness, wonderful color differential and saturation, and some great wide angle shots if you have the right lens.  It does have a slightly improved AF tracking system over the 30D, so it can survive in the sports field (though it is no 1D).  I bought a 5D this month, and I am thrilled.  Should I have waited for the next iteration?  Nah.  With the recent Canon $300 rebate, I got the 5D for $1900.  The new version will probably run over $3000.  When you are selling images for $1, you need to think about your net income.

cphoto

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2008, 16:09 »
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Well, it still would be easiest to get a .CR2 file to try it out...

And yes, my Power Mac with 4GB and twin processors were super amazing in 2005 :)

You'll be fine.

I have an "old" AMD 3700 not even dual core with 4GB RAM and it's ok.  A bit slow when converting the RAW files but I mostly shoot JPEG and the files are about 6-8MB.  RAW files are about 20MB.

« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2008, 16:56 »
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I love my 1 Ds MKIII. I upgraded from the 1 Ds about 2 months ago. I got about $1300 for it on Ebay.

One thing I didn't know was that you must use CS3 to open those .CR2 files although you can get an upgrade, I believe, for CS2.  My good MAC toys are in AZ and no problem with power to work the big file sizes. But in IL all I have is an old Mac G4 laptop that won't swallow CS3 Photoshop, although it will take CS3 Dreamweaver. So while here in IL I have to make due with using one of the memory cards in the Mark III as a L size jpg.

Greatest feature -- or one of the greatest -- is the dust management technology that "shakes" the dust off or some such thing. It is fantastic. I just did a series of shots with huge expanses of light blue sky. Even though I switch lenses a lot I could not find one speck of dust on that image to clone away.

 I also second the comments about using the best possible lenses. You will see a vast difference when working with these size files. Batteries are unbelievably better also. Did I mention that having 2 memory cards is a nice feature?

« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2008, 01:33 »
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As has already been mentioned, the 5D is probably the ultimate microstock camera.  12.8mp gets you the very high resolution credit sales, and it is a full format camera.  That means great sharpness, wonderful color differential and saturation, and some great wide angle shots if you have the right lens. 
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Thanks Dan, that helps me make up my mind, I have a 400D and I am currently looking at which upgrade path, 40D or 5D, I read that some lens do not work as well on the 5D, and it does not have the self lens cleaning so images can suffer from dust so I was leaning to smaller steps and the 40D, but now I am thinking 5D and differently.

David

« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2008, 16:29 »
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At iso 100 pixel for pixel noise,  the 1Ds is about the same as 5d possibly slightly better than 5d. If you downsized 1d file to 12.9mp it would not even be close. The autofocus is better on 1ds. The color transitions in blue polarized skies are smoother with less banding.
16 bit tiff files are a 120mb so a fast computer is important. Dust removal is working perfectly so far. The available focus points are a little more centered than I would like, other than that its an awesome camera.

Battery life is insane!! I think I went like 3 days without a charge. Not sure at this point why I bought an extra battery.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 16:36 by cdwheatley »

« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2008, 05:01 »
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ohhh... i'm envious... not sure when i'll be able to afford one but hopefully sometime


 

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