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« on: April 14, 2008, 11:20 »
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Watch this entire video
http://media.podshow.com/media/4431/episodes/53514/tipsfromthetopfloor-53514-03-12-2007.m4v

Now I need to tell you I tried it! Yes on my $8000 Canon 1Ds mark II

RESULTS: GOD darn FANTASTIC!

There is a certain method however to applying correctly.
My sensor has 0 dust....zip, zilch, zerro, nahdah, ...nothing!
It has not been this pristinely clean since the day I opened it up to take it out of the box.

The MIZ


« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 11:33 »
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nice. where did you buy that huge tube from ?

« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 11:37 »
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wow.. interesting technique.  I might be interested on trying it on an old 10D :)

I can believe that this works very well, but must also think that this has a higher potential for catastrophe than other techniques :)

« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 11:38 »
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Unfortunately it's not sold here in the USA.
I have personal connections over in Europe, so thats how I got it.
I'm thinking of re-packaging it and selling it here in the USA.

I'm not sure if it would be worth my time and effort though.
The MIZ

« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 11:44 »
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I wonder if there is any online store in europe that sells it.

edit:
here are three german sites
http://www.phonophono.de/YD51002_56.php3
http://www.protected.de/artikel_1000/1109.htm
http://www.musictools.de/shop.shtml

not sure where they ship to
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 11:47 by leaf »

« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 12:01 »
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By the way, I have actual images of my sensor I took.

I used my 24-105mm set to f22 and 24mm
In order to get the best results you need a wide angle lens and the smallest aperture.





Usually I see a spec or 2 of dust after using the wet method like 5 times.
Using this method....NOTHING! those images are untouched. I just did a contrast boost
so you are able to see the dust specs as I had to downsize the images from nearly 5000 pixels wide to 600
in order to post them here.

The MIZ

« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 12:19 »
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Unfortunately it's not sold here in the USA.
I have personal connections over in Europe, so thats how I got it.
I'm thinking of re-packaging it and selling it here in the USA.

I'm not sure if it would be worth my time and effort though.
The MIZ


Looks like someone is doing it already.

http://www.sensor-film.com/buy.html

Looks like a good method. 

« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 12:29 »
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Yeah but but it costs $31.60 USA  -  plus  $7.90 shipping.

I can sell it for less than half that price!

« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 12:50 »
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This is a similar product used to clean telescope mirrors.  I don't know if it would work on camera sensors but it sets in 5 minutes, much less time than discofilm and they supply an adhesive tab to remove the film.

http://www.caliope.co.uk/using-opticlean.htm

« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 13:06 »
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One problem with this OPTICLEAN you listed:
The solvents used to hold the polymer in solution are acetone, ethanol and ethyl acetate.
This will literally melt plastic!

the disco film is water based. No solvents, and it goes back into a goop form if moistened.

The MIZ

PS since opticlean is flammable to I wonder what restrictions there may be in USA postal regulations
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 13:10 by rjmiz »

« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 13:09 »
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This is a similar product used to clean telescope mirrors.  I don't know if it would work on camera sensors but it sets in 5 minutes, much less time than discofilm and they supply an adhesive tab to remove the film.

http://www.caliope.co.uk/using-opticlean.htm


yep.. agreed with rjmiz.  Here is a quote from the opticlean website

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CAUTION ! when using Opti-Clean
 

Caution Opti-clean is highly flammableDo NOT use on plastic lenses and any other plastic parts.

 

The solvents used in Opti-clean can damage some plastic materials.

 
** HIGHLY FLAMMABLE **

digiology

« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 13:37 »
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I watched the video and that wasn't too scarey. I wouldn't be afraid to try that myself.

If the company is smart they re-package the stuff in mini-tubes and sell those for $20.

« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 13:41 »
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Wow, that sounds scary and great at the same time! That would indeed might be a great marketing deal. Half a liter is in one bottle. The guy from sensor-film really makes a lot of money, if he uses Disco film. I bet he does, his accent is German.

« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 14:51 »
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yeah.. pretty sure that is disco film as well.

he is charging the same amount for that tiny 30ml bottle as the 1/2 liter bottles are sold for :)

« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 14:56 »
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just ordered a bottle of discofilm on the internet.. will be 'fun' to try it out.

I think perhaps cameras with TONS of dust this is just the thing.

If there is only a speck or two, then perhaps a brush or a swab would suffice. 

digiology

« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 14:58 »
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Wow, that sounds scary and great at the same time! That would indeed might be a great marketing deal. Half a liter is in one bottle. The guy from sensor-film really makes a lot of money, if he uses Disco film. I bet he does, his accent is German.


The guy from sensor-film says his polymer is based on the disc cleaning formula but is optimized for DSLR sensors. Optimized how? By squeezing discofilm into small vials and then selling it for $30 bucks a pop?

« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2008, 15:02 »
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Wow, that sounds scary and great at the same time! That would indeed might be a great marketing deal. Half a liter is in one bottle. The guy from sensor-film really makes a lot of money, if he uses Disco film. I bet he does, his accent is German.


The guy from sensor-film says his polymer is based on the disc cleaning formula but is optimized for DSLR sensors. Optimized how? By squeezing discofilm into small vials and then selling it for $30 bucks a pop?


exactly :)

« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2008, 15:19 »
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I am willing to share mine if anyone wants some :)

The total was EUR 40 including shipping for 500ml which is $63.20

I can put it in 20 ml containers... hmm it gets to be actually not much better than that other guy :)

20ml for $10 + shipping
40ml for $15 + shipping

The container ends up costing more than what is inside :(

send a message if you want some then.  I live in Norway, I am not sure what shipping would be to places but not more than $5.00
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 15:22 by leaf »

digiology

« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2008, 15:40 »
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The stuff seems really similar too whats used in facial masks (minus the kiwi scent). ;D

« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2008, 16:35 »
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I find this product quite risky  :-\
My Artic butterfly is doing its job at the moment

« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2008, 16:45 »
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I find this product quite risky  :-\
My Artic butterfly is doing its job at the moment

yes, i feel, as risky as buying eye drops from a woodo drugstore.


« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2008, 16:47 »
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I would like to know what you think the risks are?

It never touches the actual sensor. It only goes on the glass
that covers the low pass filter on top of the sensor.

What exactly in your mind is telling you it's risky, or better yet
tell be what your basing the risk factor on!?

The MIZ
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 16:49 by rjmiz »

« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2008, 17:21 »
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In case it never touches the sensor, but just the glass ( i am not familiar with sensor technology, only with warnings not to touch it in any way), the drops should magically work, both on lenses and artificial eyeballs. I am not a contrarian, at all.




« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2008, 17:24 »
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I'd seen the original video here
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWLoz4JKZI" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWLoz4JKZI</a>

but never thought of using it but now I think  I might  give it a go.in the video the guy has a smaller bottle is it the same as the one in the  video

« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2008, 19:01 »
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I also feel that this product is risky.

I believe that there are a few risks:

- accidentally applying it on the edges of the sensor and not being able to remove it all

- accidentally spilling the product inside the camera

- scratching the low pass filter with the tweezers as you are trying to insert or pull the "tab" to remove the gel

- the liquid possibly damaging the low pass sensor coating

But I also feel that sensor swabs are risky as well (since you could scratch the low pass filter if you don't do it correctly and the solution can damage the low pass filter coating)

I myself just use a rocket blower and sensor cleaning brush.


 

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