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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2012, 01:41 »
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How good is the timelapse function in the D800?  I don't mind having to use an intervalometer but it would be nice for the times when I have forgotten to put it in my camera bag.


One of the big advantages of the Canon is that the way the remote trigger is implemented is that you can do bulb ramping for time-lapse when you have long transitions from day to night.

On the 5D II half the time I'm actually using the intervalometer in a way where I'm just using the camera in continuous shooting mode with long exposures. For example in this clip: only about 2 scenes are actually using a timer setting on the intervalometer, the rest are exposures of 0.5-1.5 seconds shot continuously. If you don't actually have something to do bulb ramping, manually adjusting exposure times is much easier if you're using an external intervalometer rather than the built-in one.

In practice, even if an intervalometer is built in, I'd probably still use a remote trigger most of the time. The real issue with the D800s for timelapse though is just the file size. You don't need that much extra resolution, but it is nice to be able to get the benefit of shooting in RAW, particularly for adjusting white-balance in changing light conditions - without any sRAW setting, its just a massive amount of data to handle without any benefit.


Great timelapse! Were you using an Omnitracker on the bridge sequence?


« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2012, 16:05 »
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Right now for me the D800E with a 14-24 is looking really good against this Mark III. I shoot quit a bit of real estate, architecture and studio and I'd love that resolution. We'll see when the comparisons come out.

« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2012, 17:03 »
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For those who shoot video the D800 is still way behind in quality, do some research on vertical and horizontal sampling for video on the D800. I am sticking with my 5D Mark II but if I shot a lot more photos for $$ I would upgrade in a second. Happy to see better image quality anytime as that is what matters in then end. Who cares about more pixels!

« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2012, 17:34 »
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Is it truth that full frame optics is much cheaper for Canon than for Nikon?

« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2012, 17:43 »
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Is it truth that full frame optics is much cheaper for Canon than for Nikon?

I believe they "were", the new 24 70 is a lot more expensive.. but beside that I guess much cheaper..

« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2012, 21:22 »
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I saw this on another forum (for filmmakers) and had to post it here.  :o

http://fstoppers.com/omg-nikon-uses-5d2-phantom-hd-footage-to-promote-d800

« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2012, 22:20 »
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I saw this on another forum (for filmmakers) and had to post it here.  :o

http://fstoppers.com/omg-nikon-uses-5d2-phantom-hd-footage-to-promote-d800


Wow that's incredible. So their people basically just stole a bunch of clips from the net to put together their promo material. Surely someone must have recognised that they of all people should be respecting copyright of filmmakers?

« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2012, 22:26 »
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Great timelapse! Were you using an Omnitracker on the bridge sequence?

Thanks! The bridge sequence (at. 0.28) is a sequence of full resolution raw images with a digital zoom applied in post processing. One of the challenges of doing these while traveling is that I'm not carrying heavy gear, so I need to find ways of adding motion while still just using the camera and tripod. 

« Reply #108 on: March 05, 2012, 11:46 »
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I saw this on another forum (for filmmakers) and had to post it here.  :o

http://fstoppers.com/omg-nikon-uses-5d2-phantom-hd-footage-to-promote-d800


Wow that's incredible. So their people basically just stole a bunch of clips from the net to put together their promo material. Surely someone must have recognised that they of all people should be respecting copyright of filmmakers?


umm... oops

« Reply #109 on: March 05, 2012, 11:50 »
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If I didn't buy a 5D2 last summer this alone "This correction is based on Canon-created lens profiles, up to 29 of which can be downloaded and saved onto the camera. These profiles allow correction not only of lateral CA but also of the harder-to-fix axial CA" would almost make it worth the upgrade. I only use a couple of fast primes and CA is killing me, especially when I have to remove 3 differently coloured aberrations from the high contrast edges

you might be better off investing in better glass (better lenses) than a new camera body.  Good glass can do wonders in eliminating CA. 

« Reply #110 on: March 05, 2012, 12:00 »
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I've been telling myself for the past 2 years that I'd hold off buying a MkII and wait for the MkIII - in the meantime buy lenses and lights if the itch to spend money on gear needs scratching.

Now the MkIII is out, am wondering if it's worth the upgrade - maybe keep the MkI and keep going with lens and light improvements?

haha.. me too!  I think I'll give it a few months at least - the price is just a bit too much if you ask me.  The one intriguing thing for me is the low light high ISO.  I think I"ll rent one after they become available to see if it is something I can or can't live without for $3,500.

« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2012, 12:03 »
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Great timelapse! Were you using an Omnitracker on the bridge sequence?

Thanks! The bridge sequence (at. 0.28) is a sequence of full resolution raw images with a digital zoom applied in post processing. One of the challenges of doing these while traveling is that I'm not carrying heavy gear, so I need to find ways of adding motion while still just using the camera and tripod. 

Great timelapse. I especially liked the "light tunnel" effect at the beginning. Thanks for posting that.

wut

« Reply #112 on: March 05, 2012, 14:01 »
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If I didn't buy a 5D2 last summer this alone "This correction is based on Canon-created lens profiles, up to 29 of which can be downloaded and saved onto the camera. These profiles allow correction not only of lateral CA but also of the harder-to-fix axial CA" would almost make it worth the upgrade. I only use a couple of fast primes and CA is killing me, especially when I have to remove 3 differently coloured aberrations from the high contrast edges

you might be better off investing in better glass (better lenses) than a new camera body.  Good glass can do wonders in eliminating CA. 

AFAIK every fast prime has a lot or even more CA...(I'm talking f1.8 or faster).

« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2012, 16:06 »
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I just tested the Nikon D800 and D800E (so slightly off topic), excellent resolution, I'm impressed so far. Tomorrow I'll play with the 5D3 and see how it goes. Anyway, the Canon is horribly expensive here.
To continue off topic, I tested the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG EX on 5D2, trying to steer clear (again) of the Canon 85mm f/1.2L. Maybe that copy of sigma was faulty, I don't know - thing is, I never saw that much lateral CA and bokeh fringing in one package. The face of a person a bit backlit in the showroom had green CA on the left side of the head, magenta on the right and yellow on the top, it was hilarious!  ;D

wut

« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2012, 16:17 »
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Just stay away from Sigma, they can be optically good, even excellent, but I've had focusing problems with most of them (I had 4 and tested another 10 or so, all different models, not just different copies). I currently own only 50 1.4 and after it messed up virtually most of my last shoot I decided to get rid of it and never buy another again. The problem was that if the focus misses, it doesn't hunt and it also misses just enough to not spot it during the shoot and that the photos are usable if you downsize them down to 6 mpix at best (from 21). I never had such issues with original lenses it either locks focus properly or hunts (in low light). They rarely miss. I'm going for the optically worse option now, Canon 50 1.4, at least its focusing is reliable. AF motor and build quality is not on par either, but what good do they do if they deliver (and you never know when it will happen, that's what's the worst about it) OFF shots. When it comes to CA, I just now it'll give me a headache every time I'll post process photos unless there are no contrasty areas in the shots.

« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2012, 16:22 »
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Sigma is well known for bad quality control at least regarding their focusing problems. I also have a 50mm f/1.4 and luckily, it's excellent. Truth be told, some Sigma dude calibrated it in the lab for me. There is no need for microadjustments now, it's on zero. It's bokeh is second only to 50mm f/1.2L Canon.

wut

« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2012, 18:32 »
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I did send it back for a FW upgrade, it misfocused past 1,5 or 2m. When I bought 5D2, i had to microadjust it, while it was set to zero before that, coupled with 1Ds3. I was looking at the misfocused shots and most were taken from just a small step longer distance, 0,5m max. It could be that the problem I had before the upgrade is reoccurring, but I'm so fed up with this constant hassle that I won't bother anymore. It was decent for a while for me to. You just never know with Sigma, unless you're very lucky.

« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2012, 20:19 »
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If you're that fed up with your Sigma, would you consider selling? If so, what would you want for it?

grp_photo

« Reply #118 on: March 06, 2012, 05:24 »
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I've been telling myself for the past 2 years that I'd hold off buying a MkII and wait for the MkIII - in the meantime buy lenses and lights if the itch to spend money on gear needs scratching.

Now the MkIII is out, am wondering if it's worth the upgrade - maybe keep the MkI and keep going with lens and light improvements?

haha.. me too!  I think I'll give it a few months at least - the price is just a bit too much if you ask me.  The one intriguing thing for me is the low light high ISO.  I think I"ll rent one after they become available to see if it is something I can or can't live without for $3,500.
Great idea please keep me updated  :D

grp_photo

« Reply #119 on: March 06, 2012, 05:39 »
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the MKIII in my living area is now really 1100,- Euro more expensive than what I had paid for my MKII and I had one of the first shipped in my place. The recent pricing policy of Canon is really questionable though I have ordered the G1X I really think this one is overpriced too let alone the new lenses like 24mm, 24mm-70mm etc.
That a company is a market leader for a long time is obviously neither good for their pricing nor their products, that the Powershot-series with the G1X has now become the most innovative product of the current Canon product-line speaks for itself. (parallels with istock seems obvious to me  ;D). Pride will have a fall! Hopefully sooner than later!

« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2012, 05:50 »
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Does Mk III have the same batteries as Mk II ?

I have twp Mk II bodies in my bag (the other one is a backup). If I buy a Mk III, I will have one Mk II as a backup. But I would not like to start charging and carrying around two types of batteries...

wut

« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2012, 05:54 »
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They could be, although when it comes to high end models with higher capacity batteries, they did change the batteries, they now have smaller capacities due to new regulations (in Japan). That was the case with D4.

« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2012, 08:05 »
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Does Mk III have the same batteries as Mk II ?

I have twp Mk II bodies in my bag (the other one is a backup). If I buy a Mk III, I will have one Mk II as a backup. But I would not like to start charging and carrying around two types of batteries...


Yep, they both use the LP-E6 battery.  They may have upgraded the quality of the battery, but the physical size and set up of the battery are the same.

lagereek

« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2012, 08:32 »
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Fast lenses always cause CA, fringing, etc. I have a Nikkor, noct, 50mil, 1.2, beautyful lens but with CA, as does my Canon, 14 L.mil,2.8. pretty full of it. With so many aspherical elemnents, its weir really.

RT


« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2012, 12:21 »
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Does Mk III have the same batteries as Mk II ?

I have twp Mk II bodies in my bag (the other one is a backup). If I buy a Mk III, I will have one Mk II as a backup. But I would not like to start charging and carrying around two types of batteries...


Yep, they both use the LP-E6 battery.  They may have upgraded the quality of the battery, but the physical size and set up of the battery are the same.


Different battery grip though, which is a shame, guess it brings them a few more dollars in.


 

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