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« on: December 29, 2010, 16:16 »
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I was not sure whether to post this here, or the dpreview the 5D, or 7D forums.  But since it is microstock related....

I have been doing microstock for 2 years now.  First with a 50D, then a 7D, and now a 5DMKII.

Prior to the 5DMII my percentage rate of accepted images is about 30-100% depending on the site.

Well.... I got the 5DMII.  And I love the quality of the images and the ISO performance.  The AF system IMO is not as good as the 7D.

BUT....my acceptance rate for the past few weeks since I started using the camera has been about 0-10%.

I don't know why the drop.  It could be that the reviewers have changed over the holidays.  Or it has been rainy or cloudy the last few weeks so making open the aperture more and use higher ISO's.

The most likely candidate is a loss of DOF compared to the way I used to shoot?

Today I took shots on a monopod at higher apertures.....we will see what happens.


« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 16:32 »
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I have been using a Canon 5D MKII for almost 2 years now.  My acceptance rate runs 60-80%, mostly depending on agency (and sometimes my own lazyness...).

It ain't the camera that's the problem...  :)

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 16:42 »
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Kinda hard to say without seeing full size images and rejection reasons Could be camera settings, workflow, lenses, or a dozen other things. 

I have a 5DMII and for the past year have been in the 90%+ range at Istock.

My first guess would be you're shooting JPEG. IMO the 5DMII JPEGs are a bit soft. RAW detail is pretty amazing.

lisafx

« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 16:49 »
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Agree with mindstorm and Paulie.  I have  been using the 5DII since it came out and my acceptance rate across the board is +90%.  

Mine focuses tack sharp too.  Maybe you have a focus issue with yours?  

ShadySue

« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 17:04 »
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Prior to the 5DMII my percentage rate of accepted images is about 30-100% depending on the site.

Well.... I got the 5DMII.  And I love the quality of the images and the ISO performance.  The AF system IMO is not as good as the 7D.

BUT....my acceptance rate for the past few weeks since I started using the camera has been about 0-10%.

As has been said, you need to share your rejection reasons. Since I got the 5D2, my rejections for artifacting etc have gone down, compensated by 'poor lighting' rejections shooting up.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2010, 05:23 by ShadySue »

« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 17:22 »
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it's all about the pictures you have been taken.. until July this year I was shooting JPEG only (on my previous D60).. after that I got a D90 and started shooting RAW, no changes on acceptance because of that, it is all about the pictures, the exposure and of course trying to please reviewers all around which is not easy.. I am a little worried at DT, I guess exclusives are getting everything online.. More and more I try to do my best and upload, if agencies like what I am doing it's all good if not all good also, nothing we can do :P

Lately I am also very pleased with IS approvals, I am getting a lot higher approval there, I am near 60% too bad the drop in royalties soon..

« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 20:32 »
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It's strictly coincidence. I'm getting more rejections since I started using a new espresso maker.

rubyroo

« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 20:36 »
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I'm having less rejections since I bought a new teapot.  Some kind of inverse beverage correlation going on there... clearly a trend...  ;)

« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 20:38 »
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Could it be that the lens you have isn't good enough for the higher resolution?

« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2010, 00:50 »
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I'm having less rejections since I bought a new teapot.  Some kind of inverse beverage correlation going on there... clearly a trend...  ;)

Fewer artifacts in tea no doubt.

lagereek

« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 02:13 »
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Its not the camera!  I work with the D3X and the MII ( both systems)  the higher res, the more demanding and the more unforgiving. These cams demand best optics and thats just for starters.
Always raw, no sharpening and no noise-red, adobe-space and work in neutral setting,  this is in-camera you understand.

« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 02:20 »
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I started using the 5DMkII a year ago.   My rejection rate at Istock went down, which was a very welcome effect.  No change on the other sites.  I still have images of older cameras to submit, and every time I get an "artifact" rejection at Istock, it's one of the older images.

rubyroo

« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2010, 02:34 »
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Fewer artifacts in tea no doubt.

 :D :D :D

« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 10:32 »
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It's strictly coincidence. I'm getting more rejections since I started using a new espresso maker.

Ah Hah.....  You have given me an idea.... I did get a new Carhartt jacket about the same time the rejections got worse.... that must be it  : )

But seriously.... most of the rejections have been because of OOF or focus not on best area.    I think that the combination of the shallower dof associated with a FF camera combined with hand held shots in a darker winter environment .... a AF system that is not as good as the 7D has led to my rejections.

ShadySue

« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 10:43 »
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It's strictly coincidence. I'm getting more rejections since I started using a new espresso maker.
But seriously.... most of the rejections have been because of OOF or focus not on best area.    I think that the combination of the shallower dof associated with a FF camera combined with hand held shots in a darker winter environment .... a AF system that is not as good as the 7D has led to my rejections.
Strange: the advantage for me personally is the the 5D2 is far better in lower light conditions with higher ISO. Do you have IS lenses? Is it out of focus or lens shake?
May be a problem with the camera or lens?
What sort of subject are you shooting? Unless fast moving, e.g. flying birds or sport, the AF difference shouldn't be obvious. (I was recommended the 7D for actions shots, and was thinking about replacing my 40D with one, until I read that the noise at 400 is pretty grim.)
« Last Edit: December 31, 2010, 10:44 by ShadySue »

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 11:37 »
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It's strictly coincidence. I'm getting more rejections since I started using a new espresso maker.

[snip] a AF system that is not as good as the 7D has led to my rejections.
Yes, the 7D has much better focusing ability to capture those fast moving apples and eggs in your portfolio.  ;)

Full frame DOF takes some getting used to.


 

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