Author Topic: Canon EOS 500D / REBEL T1i (Read 13008 times)

stokfoto · « **on:** March 25, 2009, 04:45 »

it comes with full HD video feature and 15.1 MP
more details are here.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09032504canoneos500d.asp

leaf · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2009, 04:49 »

Yeah, when i was reading my blogs this morning it seemed like every other blog was talking about it. The internet can sure create a buzz quickly.

Gizmodo has a nice write up as well, with some sample videos
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/03/canon_rebel_t1i_handson_50ds_sensor_1080p_vids_899_-2.html

looks pretty nice and seems like a good upgrade for those shooting for a 350d or similar.

sui · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2009, 05:50 »

Wow, but it's still not a full frame. I have 350D and if I want to upgrade, I'd like camera that I can submit images to Alamy. Is this camera good enough to go for Alamy?

leaf · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2009, 05:51 »

yes, probably.

I submitted my first images to Alamy from a Canon 10D which was 6.4 MP
Then used a Canon 5D which was 12 MP

This is 15 MP so you have higher resolution. The only problem is a bit more noise, but if you keep the ISO down, your files should look as good as the 5D files.

mattb · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2009, 07:54 »

Still no PC-sync, I really wish they would put one on. Can't beat that price though. It's going to be hard to justify the extra 2 grand for the new 5D.

null · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2009, 07:54 »

Is HD video at 20fps only good enough for stock video?

leaf · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:38 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 25, 2009, 07:54

Is HD video at 20fps only good enough for stock video?

No i believe they all require 30fps. The 500D does take 30fps at the 720 (and lower) resolution though.

You can notice quite a loss in quality when going from 30fps down to 20fps. If you check out the gizmodo link you can see the difference in their test videos.

vonkara · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:06 »

The same sensor as the 50D, who's actually a good one. Nice deal for amateurs. Nikon have to react now...

null · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:50 »

Quote from: leaf on March 25, 2009, 08:38

You can notice quite a loss in quality when going from 30fps down to 20fps. If you check out the gizmodo link you can see the difference in their test videos.

Yes, but I noticed on the video forums that many people ask how to convert the D5-II 30fps to 25 or 26fps. So I thought that was the standard. Me thinks it's a commercial move of Canon to offer the 30fps only on the lores video. If not, the 500D would come to close to the D5-II in terms of performance and they risk to cannibalize part of their own market.

null · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:56 »

Quote from: Vonkara on March 25, 2009, 09:06

Nikon have to react now...

Nikon almost lost me. The gap between the D700 and the D3x is too wide. They are far too commercial and one day it might explode in their face. The D5-MKII is clearly a winner. I almost had it in the kit version, but at the moment they're out of stock in Europe, and I need it in 10 days.

sharpshot · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:08 »

Looks good, I was thinking of upgrading from the 5D to 5DmkII but now I will probably get one of these. The 5D is great but I like smaller cameras.

null · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:18 »

Quote from: sharpshot on March 25, 2009, 10:08

Looks good, I was thinking of upgrading from the 5D to 5DmkII but now I will probably get one of these. The 5D is great but I like smaller cameras.

Yes it's quite heavy especially outdoors. You get used to it. I'm used to a 1kg cam with my D200 and it has also the advantage of being less prone to motion blur when shooting manually in the field.

But in the mean time I got an email that the 5D-II kit is in stock in Aachen/Germany, so the issue is settled. Sorry Nikon, you just dragged your feet too long with the mythical D400. If I need new glass (Canon) I can as well start with FF. The 30fps HD is convincing too, I saw the videos of Miklav. 20fps won't do. It would save me an extra HV30 videocam of almost 900 euro.

Thanks to Lisafx, Leaf, and many others that convinced me of the quality of the D5-II and being fit for stock. Especially a warm thanks to Miklav who pointed me to the shop and who was very helpfull with his PMs.

sharpshot · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2009, 13:45 »

Just read that the 500D will be £870 body only in the UK. Canon must be joking, the 50D is cheaper than that. Looks like I am now a Nikon man

null · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2009, 16:18 »

Quote from: sharpshot on March 25, 2009, 13:45

Just read that the 500D will be £870 body only in the UK. Canon must be joking, the 50D is cheaper than that. Looks like I am now a Nikon man

Well you told once you're a JPGer... that wasn't such a bad idea since the processors in new cams do a better job than the RAW software since they handle the sensor idiosyncrasies better. A new cam will always be better software-wise than an older cam, so there is a point in the 500D being more expensive than the 50D. The big difference between the D80 and the D90 is the software, fringe and vignette removal.

leaf · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2009, 16:47 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 25, 2009, 09:50

Quote from: leaf on March 25, 2009, 08:38
You can notice quite a loss in quality when going from 30fps down to 20fps. If you check out the gizmodo link you can see the difference in their test videos.

Yes, but I noticed on the video forums that many people ask how to convert the D5-II 30fps to 25 or 26fps. So I thought that was the standard. Me thinks it's a commercial move of Canon to offer the 30fps only on the lores video. If not, the 500D would come to close to the D5-II in terms of performance and they risk to cannibalize part of their own market.

yeah that could certainly be true. It could however be that the processor in the 500D couldn't handle high res 30fps video.

As far as frame rate is concerned there are a number of standars between 24 and 30 depending on the country of origin and their use, but nothing as low as 20. Movies are often shot as 25fps. The Canon camcorder HV30 has a 'movie setting' where it shoots at that speed and aparently gives it a certain look.

Here is the list of what istock accepts
http://www.istockphoto.com/videographer_6.0_requirements.php

sharpshot · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2009, 17:56 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 25, 2009, 16:18

Quote from: sharpshot on March 25, 2009, 13:45
Just read that the 500D will be £870 body only in the UK. Canon must be joking, the 50D is cheaper than that. Looks like I am now a Nikon man

Well you told once you're a JPGer... that wasn't such a bad idea since the processors in new cams do a better job than the RAW software since they handle the sensor idiosyncrasies better. A new cam will always be better software-wise than an older cam, so there is a point in the 500D being more expensive than the 50D. The big difference between the D80 and the D90 is the software, fringe and vignette removal.

I read in the DP review forums that stores list the canon recommended price until the camera is in stock and then usually give it around a 30% discount, so perhaps it wont be so expensive. I used to use 99% jpeg but now I use 95% raw, I changed when the price of big hard drives fell and there was no longer extra expense storing the raw files.

null · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2009, 18:04 »

On DPreview they gave almost the same price in USD, EUR and GBP, which is far off because of the exchange rate. Prices usually drop to a more realistic level as soon as the early adopters are satisfied and supply can follow demand.

stock shooter · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:32 »

Regarding the video option, now that a vid cam / camera is in my budget I'm considering video submission for micro stock. Would someone be so kind as to expound on the minimum, least expensive, software requirements and workflow for video for microstock for someone with -0- knowledge of video editing? Thanks.

sharpshot · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2009, 10:38 »

Quote from: stock shooter on March 26, 2009, 09:32

Regarding the video option, now that a vid cam / camera is in my budget I'm considering video submission for micro stock. Would someone be so kind as to expound on the minimum, least expensive, software requirements and workflow for video for microstock for someone with -0- knowledge of video editing? Thanks.

There is free software that can be used. I bought Premiere elements as it was in a package with Photoshop elements and was relatively cheap. The workflow is different to my tape camera but there are useful posts in the shutterstock and istock forums that should get you going.

gostwyck · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2010, 22:16 »

Is anyone using this camera for stock please, especially with the 18-55 IS kit lens, and how do you find it?

My main camera is the 1Ds MkIII but combined with the 24-70L lens it weighs in at 2.4Kg. When I'm on vacation, in hot countries especially, and just want to take a few happy snaps of the girlfriend and/or the location then lugging around the 1Ds is often more hassle than it's worth. Same when I want to go for a good long walk on the coast, when again photography is not the main issue, but it would be nice to have a camera with me if the opportunity for a decent shot presents itself.

Last year I bought the G10 as a lightweight camera but I absolutely hated it (the usual shutter lag, noise and lousy image quality problems) so ended up selling it after just 115 shutter operations.

The 500D with kit lens weighs in at less than 700g and is also fairly compact so I figure it might do well as a 'travel camera'. I'd appreciate anyones input if they have experience of using the 500D for stock.

sukha · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:49 »

Hi gostwyck,
I just got my 500D not too long ago. Generally it is ok for the price range and have been using to take stock images since, replacing my point and shoot camera. I am also using the kit lens currently and it gives reasonably sharp images.

Danicek · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2010, 11:13 »

I use the predecessor of its predecessor, the 400D for everything I do (I don't have the kit lens, though).

So, yes, it is good enough to produce pictures accepted on stock sites.

When I was buying it, the seller forced me to go with Tamron SP AF 17-50 mm F/2,8 instead of the kit lens telling me it is much better deal (still likely not matching the L lenses).

karbonnseo · « **Reply #22 on:** June 12, 2010, 03:40 »

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