But CanStockPhoto keeps keywords alphabetically, how would they trim keywords in existing images?  15 is better than FT's 7, but it still few in many cases, especially as CanStockPhoto also does not take composed keywords, so as in a previous example "Rio de Janeiro, Copacabana Beach" become 5 keywords. 

Regards,
Adelaide

Actually  currently the database does not impose an alphabetical  order to keywords, they appear on the site in the same order you enter them  whether read during upload or manually entered. And there are no plans or needs to change it so it is alphabetical

Good point about the phrases, I've let Duncan know about your concern and it will be considered.

I'm surprised to see all the aggression against Canstock here. Although I agree that they behave strange sometimes, they do sell five times as much as LO for me. I don't upload at the moment, but I won't completely count them out either. Sales have actually been increasing lately.

The rather unwelcoming attitude of Duncan towards contributors doesn't help too. I still remember his warning on the CanStockPhoto forum that the accounts of critical forum posters would vanish suddenly.

He actually wrote that?  My goodness, why would anybody choose to do business with someone that unprofessional. 

That would have made for an interesting lawsuit.  Can you imagine CanStockPhoto trying to explain to a court of law why they closed accounts without notice and kept the revenues because of "critical message board posting?"   

Actually - I quite like the CanStockPhoto website...pity that the sales are so low there.

And this: "For comparisons sake, our image standards will similar to some rights-managed agencies. We will be very selective and will only accept the highest quality images. All photos should appear to be shot in a professional environment, with professional equipment."

Not a problem with high quality requirements - but professional equipment and professional environment cost money - so if RM quality is expected, then RM prices would not be out of place either.

I was planning on leaving CanStockPhoto after my next payout, and have already stopped uploading to them, so no big loss for me.

However, it really bothers me when sites decide to remove old, poor performing photos without at least giving them a chance to sell.  IS developed its Dollar Bin, which I think is a great idea, but Fotolia and now CanStockPhoto have decided just to get rid of stuff.  The problem I have with CanStockPhoto in particular doing this is they have never had many buyers to begin with, so it's almost like the photogs are being penalized for their lack of marketing. 

Actually  currently the database does not impose an alphabetical  order to keywords, they appear on the site in the same order you enter them  whether read during upload or manually entered. And there are no plans or needs to change it so it is alphabetical

Artmyth, you're right, I was making the confusion. 

When looking at some images yesterday, I saw a different edition form for keywords - has it been there for a while? I was surprised, because I always clicked on the file edit link and not at the keywords edit link, so it looked new to me, and it needs inspector's agreement.

I saw in a couple of images (unfortunately I forgot which ones) that had duplicate keywords in the first ones, because of the splitting of composed keywords.  As an example (though this was not actually the case), if I have "isolated on white" and "white background", the form shows "isolated, on, white, white, background", therefore it's "wasting" one of the precious 15 keywords with the two "white".

Does the search tool differentiate singular and plurals?

Regards,
Adelaide

Quote from: Artmyth on February 26, 2008, 17:36

Actually  currently the database does not impose an alphabetical  order to keywords, they appear on the site in the same order you enter them  whether read during upload or manually entered. And there are no plans or needs to change it so it is alphabetical

Artmyth, you're right, I was making the confusion. 

When looking at some images yesterday, I saw a different edition form for keywords - has it been there for a while? I was surprised, because I always clicked on the file edit link and not at the keywords edit link, so it looked new to me, and it needs inspector's agreement.

I saw in a couple of images (unfortunately I forgot which ones) that had duplicate keywords in the first ones, because of the splitting of composed keywords.  As an example (though this was not actually the case), if I have "isolated on white" and "white background", the form shows "isolated, on, white, white, background", therefore it's "wasting" one of the precious 15 keywords with the two "white".

Does the search tool differentiate singular and plurals?

Regards,
Adelaide

Hi Adelaide, Yes the keyword Edit Tool has been there for quite a long time, at first guess almost a year now.  We have a few dedicated photographers and buyers who often suggest additions and catch unrelated keywords.

In regards to your specific questions about the search, at this point I cant answer specifically becuase  Ducan is currently testing the new search and  it is a work in progress as we discuss this.  I will forward your questions to him, so he can take them into consideration in his development.

Canstock are laughable, they just rejected a photo that had been accepted by IS, DT, FT, 123, LO

about 50% rejected from last batch, mostly for keywords.  And of course like shutterstock they dont bother to tell you what keywords. Think I'll turn off their keyword suggester.

Mass rejections on par with SX and a slower loading site.  Combined with no sales, I don't think it can get much better.

I am surprised that more people are not upset with the 50% acceptance rule.

Lets drive the conclusions home:

1. You have a portfolio of lets say a 100 images, some sales, some money in your account and about 65% acceptance rate

2. You continue uploading, but most of your images are rejected and your acceptance rate falls to 49%

3. Now you are blocked from further uploading. Do you understand what this means? There is NO WAY to raise your acceptance rate without more uploading and you have just been banned (forever?) from further uploading.

4. Now your 100 pics online are locked in forever, your $40 in pending payout money are blocked forever, and all you can do is hope that the pics you've got online will one day bring you enough money for minimal payout, but you are practically banned from EVER uploading to the site again (unless you open another account)

Am I the only one who thinks this is outrageous?

 

I am surprised that more people are not upset with the 50% acceptance rule.

Lets drive the conclusions home:

1. You have a portfolio of lets say a 100 images, some sales, some money in your account and about 65% acceptance rate

2. You continue uploading, but most of your images are rejected and your acceptance rate falls to 49%

3. Now you are blocked from further uploading. Do you understand what this means? There is NO WAY to raise your acceptance rate without more uploading and you have just been banned (forever?) from further uploading.

4. Now your 100 pics online are locked in forever, your $40 in pending payout money are blocked forever, and all you can do is hope that the pics you've got online will one day bring you enough money for minimal payout, but you are practically banned from EVER uploading to the site again (unless you open another account)

Am I the only one who thinks this is outrageous?

 

The following was posted on CanStockPhoto's forum today:

Just one thing I don't get. If someone does go below 50% rating, are they effectively barred forever from uploading, it's not made clear. So once they go under the 50% they might as well leave, is that what it's saying?
How will it work? How can they get back to uploading?

It seems this question is still waiting for an answer. I'm sure there are several that would like to hear this answer. Duncan?
 
RESPONSE FROM DUNCAN:  March 7, 2008:
 
Actually I answered it in the thread about upload limits.

For the time being we are allowing a 1/day limit for people below 50%. This is subject to change, but gives them the opportunity to carefully raise their rating back up.

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Duncan
CanStockPhoto Admin