cryptically and poorly

We are committing $200 million over the next 3 years to AI and Creator royalties

Cool. According to stats I found online Canva had over over 100 million stock images, videos, and graphic elements and over 610,000 templates last year.
So 200.000.000$ divided through (over) 100.610.000 contributor items divided through three years means less than 0.66$ per image/video/graphic/template per year. Doesn't sound as exciting as $200 million anymore.

Thanks Danny,

When will you share the details with us on how those royalties will be distributed ?

today i see this in my canva earning page...

"0.66$ per image/video/graphic/template per year."

  I have 15k photos, x 0.66$= 9.900$ / per year, so.... nope.   

I am wondering the same.

canva hasn't accepted me, but through istock/getty i have many of my photos on canva

how can I choose not to be in your AI training program and, if it's not an option, how will I get paid for my work?

thank you

I got 14$. Yeeeeej

LOL thanks Canva, about 5% of what Adobe paid. 

Daylight robbery. I guess we living in 1984 now guys

Hi DannyCanva,

I just received $2.01 for my initial participation in the AI Creators program for my 8,966 photos.
Sorry, but I can only hope this is a joke, because $0.000224 can hardly be adequate compensation for using photos to train your AI.

To put this in context - with the same portfolio this is:
-> 0.71% of what Shutterstock paid for the same portfolio
-> 0.67% of what AdobeStock paid for the same portfolio
-> 1.10% of what BigStock paid for the same portfolio

I hope there will be some more compensation here and ask for some official info on this.

Many thanks,
Michael

I got 14$. Yeeeeej

I got 200$ at adove for comparison.

I am sure it will be a monthly bonus. What we received now is too low to be a one time boost as Adobe paid us.

I can imagine there could be more payments for new content in the future - But why would Canva pay you for usage to train their AI for the same image each month?

DannyCanva said this:
"AI royalties will continued to be paid each and every month going forward."
I think they also mentioned it would be for the next 3 years, but I might be wrong, not sure this period was for the AI royalties.

I myself opted out.

Yepp. Still have my doubts they'll pay you for the same images that have already been used for training each month. But I guess we'll see next month.

I am sure it will be a monthly bonus. What we received now is too low to be a one time boost as Adobe paid us.

I think so too. According to what was written in the detailed information, there will be a monthly payment if they use our content for AI development.

Quote from: DesignT on October 18, 2023, 09:48

I think so too. According to what was written in the detailed information, there will be a monthly payment if they use our content for AI development.

I would be very happy if you are right and this is "only" the monthly payment.

But there it also says very clearly below the payment "We've given your first payment a one-time boost as special thanks....".
"We've given..." is the past tense and so it means that the one-time payment in my case should already be included in the $2.01.

That's why I would like to see an official information here and I think with 9k images you are allowed to ask for it @DannyCanva :-)

Unfortunately, the description below the amount and the description in the detailed information are contradictory. We hope to receive an official answer soon from  

Because under the amount it says: "We 've given your first payment a one-time boost and special thanks..." you obviously can't expect much in the next months, because the "boost" won't be there anymore.

Even with the Ai payment I have less than months before. Given the complete non transparency of the payment system, they could have easily taken away Royalty Earnings and given part of it back to us as a Magic Creator Payment

cryptically and poorly

So funny how true this turned out to be.

It's your responsibility to agree to the Contributor agreement : https://www.canva.com/policies/contributor-agreement/
If you disagree, you can delete your account, as simple as that.
Why complain for the AI Compensation of Magic Creator?  It's your responsibility to opt out from what you disagree! (and I am happy I opted out).
as if Canva is trying to scam contributors... 

Quote from: Mir on October 25, 2023, 10:55

https://www.canva.com/en_au/help/creators-support-form/

Thank you Mir - I guess I was looking too hard for an email :-)

To keep you informed on the topic of "Was it all to Boost AI Payment":
I got a really quick response from support with clear and concise answers, so from there a "thumbs up" for support.

However, the content of the answers is really sobering.
I was told that the "one-time Boost payment" is 20% of the average last month's earnings.
So it is calculated completely according to the use of the image data and not according to the amount of data, which in my opinion is already the wrong approach for an AI training, but well so it is.

If we now take 20% of the average last monthly revenue (which is 1.67% of the average annual revenue - 20 divided by 12) as a one-time "boost payment" for the use of the AI training, this results in my case with 8966 photos in a usage fee of $2.01 divided by 8966 = $0.000224, i.e. 0.02 cents per image.

Furthermore I got the hint in the support that the future monthly AI usage fees can be significantly lower, quote:
-> "To set your expectations, this initial payment is intentionally larger than what the monthly payments will be since those payments will be based on your upcoming content.".

So it will still be significantly less than $2.01 - Um, hello?

We were already upset when iStock set the royalties at 15% and when Shutterstock restarted the hamster wheel with the steps every year and cut our royalties by about 60%.

But what is happening here at Canva is, in my personal opinion, really unsurpassable in terms of greed.
For me, this is really completely ridiculous and absurd.

I realize that I'm risking my Canva account with this post, because I'm sure I'll make myself unpopular there.
But there really are limits to greed and they are exceeded here by lengths.

This just had to come out now,
Greetings, Michael