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« on: November 29, 2023, 23:15 »
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Canva sent out an e-mail saying we need to re-register for payment methods and submit tax forms.

Re-registering was simple, but the process for tax is:

"Submitting a tax form
Enter and save your payout information. To find out how to set up your payout information, check our article on setting up payments.
Click Submit a tax form.
Click Try our tax form wizard to understand which tax form applies to you (it'll depend on your personal situation)."

BUT, I do not see these buttons to click anywhere! Anybody else having this problem? Or know where they might be found? (It's not under Payments)


« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2023, 23:58 »
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Canva has one of the least obvious web pages of all the sites. I couldn't find any way to change the tax stuff, hopefully someone can find it before next April.

I did find historic payments. Wow, they used to be pretty good, with not a lot of images in my port.

« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2023, 00:19 »
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They just added a banner to the payments page:

"Creators are required to re-register their payout method.
Please note that the functionality to register with Trolley will be available on your creator account from November 30, 2023."

Maybe they shouldn't have sent the email before they got that ready ...

« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2023, 01:00 »
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Well, they wrote "Starting December 1, 2023, we will be asking you to register...". If only contributors would read their emails before the complain...

« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2023, 02:52 »
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« Last Edit: November 30, 2023, 02:56 by wheeeeee »

« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2023, 03:22 »
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I hate Canvas site layout SO SO much!
They tell me I need to update my payment method as well, but I cannot find the option anymore!

Can anyone help me?

 The FAQ says

"1. Log in to your Canva account.

2. On the top corner of the homepage, click the gear icon to go to your Account Settings.

3. From the side panel, click Payments.

4. Go to the Details tab."

But there is no "Payments" option in the side panel! There is only "billing & plans" where I can find settings to make payments to cnava, not settings to get payments from Canva.

I clicked on every single link in the side panel (Your account / Login & security / Message preferences / Privacy settings / Personal / People / Billing & plans / Purchase history / Domains / Manage teams / Domains", there is no option to upcate my payment method anywhere.

I have talked with their stupid AI chat bot and it keeps telling me to click on stuff where there is nothing to click like "botton left corner" - I only have a trash icon there. And when I tell that to the stupid chat bot it says something like "I apologize for the confusion, go to ..." and then it tells me a completely different location where that option is supposed to be, but it's also not there. It's so frustrating, as if that chat bot was just making things up....


Because canva is so  freakin' impossible to navigate, I had bookarked many of their sites so I could find them again, but the links all lead to "not found (404)" pages now.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2023, 03:29 by Her Ugliness »

« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2023, 18:22 »
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I got an email tell me I needed to do the W8BEN form, I have sent an email to Canva support asking why I needed to do that form. As an Australian and Canva is supposedly an Australian company, I should not have to pay the IRS anything, as the way I understand it that is for USA based companies and foreign based contributors. My tax obligations are to Australia. Still waiting for a sensible explanation.

They said this in the email "We recently updated the Contributor Agreement regarding requirements to meet global regulatory requirements. Starting April 1, 2024, Creator payouts will be subject to additional US royalties withholding tax applied to the US-sourced portion of your income."

I know they have opened an office in the USA but a clear explanation is needed. Something that Canva seems incapable of providing.

« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2023, 11:58 »
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I got an email tell me I needed to do the W8BEN form, I have sent an email to Canva support asking why I needed to do that form. As an Australian and Canva is supposedly an Australian company, I should not have to pay the IRS anything, as the way I understand it that is for USA based companies and foreign based contributors. My tax obligations are to Australia. Still waiting for a sensible explanation.

They said this in the email "We recently updated the Contributor Agreement regarding requirements to meet global regulatory requirements. Starting April 1, 2024, Creator payouts will be subject to additional US royalties withholding tax applied to the US-sourced portion of your income."

I know they have opened an office in the USA but a clear explanation is needed. Something that Canva seems incapable of providing.

they shouldn't automatically withhold US tax, especially as many US self-employed don't have anything withheld from all the US based agencies

« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2023, 20:12 »
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I got an email tell me I needed to do the W8BEN form, I have sent an email to Canva support asking why I needed to do that form. As an Australian and Canva is supposedly an Australian company, I should not have to pay the IRS anything, as the way I understand it that is for USA based companies and foreign based contributors. My tax obligations are to Australia. Still waiting for a sensible explanation.

They said this in the email "We recently updated the Contributor Agreement regarding requirements to meet global regulatory requirements. Starting April 1, 2024, Creator payouts will be subject to additional US royalties withholding tax applied to the US-sourced portion of your income."

I know they have opened an office in the USA but a clear explanation is needed. Something that Canva seems incapable of providing.

they shouldn't automatically withhold US tax, especially as many US self-employed don't have anything withheld from all the US based agencies
Under tax rules yes they should.
As an Australian submitting to a USA company the "tax treaty" is in play and the USA company has to keep 5% withholding tax on items purchased from within the USA and pay it to the IRS. I have no issue with that, it is the rules and I play by them.
If someone from the USA was submitting to an Australian company then again the tax treaty comes into play and the Australian company has to withhold 5% tax (I am assuming that is on items sold to Australian buyers but am not certain)
If someone from the USA submits to a company from the USA then personal tax rules apply
If someone from Australia submits to a company from Australia then personal tax rules apply.
My tax obligation is the Australian Tax Office not the IRS in this case.

In the case of companies like Getty then the amount that is withheld and paid to the IRS is offset against my personal taxes owed so that I am not paying double tax.

Any items bought from Australia by someone in the USA would be subject to sales tax, not my responsibility. Any item bought from the USA by someone in Australia is subject to sales tax and again not my responsibility.

My reply from Canva at this stage is
"Hello Wendy,
Thank you so much for raising this.
We'll be consulting our team to further check and we'll get back to you with additional information soon.
Regards,
MJ"

« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2023, 22:21 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

Canva is an Australian business and should not have to deduct USA witholding tax.

I am concerned that the email from Canva suggests that this US witholding tax will be withheld in addition to the 15% Australian witholding tax they already apply.  That doesn't sound right given the double taxation treaty between Australia and the USA.  One must be offset against the other.

I think Canva has got all this wrong, unless of course it has reregistered its business in the US.  If so, the Australian 15% witholding no longer applies.

« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2023, 04:13 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.

« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2023, 10:59 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.

withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup

« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2023, 11:26 »
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Withholding rate should be 0% for US-persons, right?

« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2023, 19:51 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.

withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup

hatman the double tax treaty between Australia and the USA is 5% ... each country has its own tax treaty, if no tax treaty is in place then the withholding tax is 30%.

Steve I am guessing you are in the USA.  For companies that are based in the USA as a foreign contributor the IRS requires forms to be completed. This then determines the amount of tax withheld. If no form is completed then they will take 30% in tax. 0% is not an option.

If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.

I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ...  this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies).  In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.

« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2023, 20:03 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.

withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup

hatman the double tax treaty between Australia and the USA is 5% ... each country has its own tax treaty, if no tax treaty is in place then the withholding tax is 30%.

Steve I am guessing you are in the USA.  For companies that are based in the USA as a foreign contributor the IRS requires forms to be completed. This then determines the amount of tax withheld. If no form is completed then they will take 30% in tax. 0% is not an option.

If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.

I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ...  this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies).  In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.

Steve is from Seattle thus not part of the States anymore lol!

« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2023, 13:37 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.

withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup

hatman the double tax treaty between Australia and the USA is 5% ... each country has its own tax treaty, if no tax treaty is in place then the withholding tax is 30%.

Steve I am guessing you are in the USA.  For companies that are based in the USA as a foreign contributor the IRS requires forms to be completed. This then determines the amount of tax withheld. If no form is completed then they will take 30% in tax. 0% is not an option.

If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.

I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ...  this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies).  In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.

Steve is from Seattle thus not part of the States anymore lol!

we're hoping to join Oregon & BC to form the new country of Cascadia

« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2023, 13:41 »
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If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.

I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ...  this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies).  In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.

in US we can choose whether to have US tax withheld or not. this also applies when we're selling stock, redeeming retirement funds, etc.  No problem as long as taxes are calculated properly at the end of the year.

none of my US based agencies withhold taxes and there's no reaso for canva to do so

« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2023, 14:07 »
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This doesn't sound right at all.  US witholding tax is 10% not 5% and only applies to a company registered and operating in the US and making distributions to residents abroad.

US witholding tax is max. 30% not 10%. It depends on agreement USA has with contributor's country.

withholding can be 0% , which is how I have all the US agencies setup

hatman the double tax treaty between Australia and the USA is 5% ... each country has its own tax treaty, if no tax treaty is in place then the withholding tax is 30%.

Steve I am guessing you are in the USA.  For companies that are based in the USA as a foreign contributor the IRS requires forms to be completed. This then determines the amount of tax withheld. If no form is completed then they will take 30% in tax. 0% is not an option.

If you are a USA contributor to a company based in the USA then you would comply with your own IRS rules whatever they are. As an Australian contributing to an Australian company, I am self employed and work out my tax obligation when I do my tax returns, so no tax is withheld by the Australian company.

I am guessing that this is why Canva is setting up offices all over the world. USA contributors will more than likely be registered to the USA office and will comply with those tax rules ...  this would then do away with the need for tax treaty between USA and Australia for those contributors (this has been done by other companies).  In this case the blanket email has just caused confusion and I am still waiting for a reply.

Steve is from Seattle thus not part of the States anymore lol!

we're hoping to join Oregon & BC to form the new country of Cascadia

Didn't parts of Oregon consider merging with ID? Don't think it passed in the end.

« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2023, 12:37 »
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we're hoping to join Oregon & BC to form the new country of Cascadia

Didn't parts of Oregon consider merging with ID? Don't think it passed in the end.

there've been many proposals, such as a southern OR Northern Cal state of Jefferson, but nothing serious

« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2023, 18:37 »
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Canva is an Australian business and should not have to deduct USA witholding tax.

I am concerned that the email from Canva suggests that this US witholding tax will be withheld in addition to the 15% Australian witholding tax they already apply.  That doesn't sound right given the double taxation treaty between Australia and the USA.  One must be offset against the other.
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just completed the new canva requirements (took about 10')
the actual W-9 form on the canva site allows selection of 0% withholding

« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2023, 18:34 »
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I am still waiting for a reply from Canva on my questions.

« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2023, 07:19 »
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Anyone else has problems with their payment since Canva changed from Hyperwallet to Trolley?

I used to get my money via bank transfer, no problems at all. I just got a mail from Canva that my latest payment failed and I should update my bank information. Problem: The old bank information is correct, so I have nothing to change it to.

« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2023, 07:57 »
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Anyone else has problems with their payment since Canva changed from Hyperwallet to Trolley?

I used to get my money via bank transfer, no problems at all. I just got a mail from Canva that my latest payment failed and I should update my bank information. Problem: The old bank information is correct, so I have nothing to change it to.

Exactly the same here. Same bank account as used before, never had problems. Now they tell me the payment was returned due to a Gateway processor failure, whatever that means.
Also, they didn't accept my Tax Form, they claim my tax number was wrong. Might be, because the number contains slashes, that were prohibited to enter.

« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2023, 16:56 »
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Anyone else has problems with their payment since Canva changed from Hyperwallet to Trolley?

I used to get my money via bank transfer, no problems at all. I just got a mail from Canva that my latest payment failed and I should update my bank information. Problem: The old bank information is correct, so I have nothing to change it to.

Same here ... Hope they will fix this soon.

« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2023, 15:18 »
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Same here. Changed it back to paypal, just to be sure. Still no payment. How about you, have you received money?


 

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