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Agency Based Discussion => Canva => Topic started by: Sean Locke Photography on September 28, 2023, 08:02

Title: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on September 28, 2023, 08:02
I’m guessing the “opt out” doesn’t include AI training.

From todays email about changes…

“3. Use of Stock Media to develop and improve Canva’s products & services: We’ve included new terms and conditions that allow Canva or its third-party service providers to use Stock Media to develop and improve products and services, including through the use of artificial intelligence and machine learning. We’ve also included details of how Creators can opt-out of having their Stock Media used for some of these purposes. “

https://www.canva.com/policies/contributor-agreement/ (https://www.canva.com/policies/contributor-agreement/)
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 28, 2023, 10:51
For those contributing to Canva, it's worth noting this section:

"(d) For the avoidance of doubt, if you withdraw entirely from the Contributor program, Canva will retain the right to use your Stock Media to develop and improve artificial intelligence or machine learning models, unless you opt-out."

So opt out before you quit or they can use your work forever
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on September 28, 2023, 11:02
For those contributing to Canva, it's worth noting this section:

"(d) For the avoidance of doubt, if you withdraw entirely from the Contributor program, Canva will retain the right to use your Stock Media to develop and improve artificial intelligence or machine learning models, unless you opt-out."

So opt out before you quit or they can use your work forever

That sounds like a lawsuit.
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: Her Ugliness on September 28, 2023, 11:22
For those contributing to Canva, it's worth noting this section:

"(d) For the avoidance of doubt, if you withdraw entirely from the Contributor program, Canva will retain the right to use your Stock Media to develop and improve artificial intelligence or machine learning models, unless you opt-out."

So opt out before you quit or they can use your work forever


So, just like with every other agency that announced using our images for AI training and talked about offering us an "opt-out" option my question is the same: WHERE THE HECK IS THE OPT OUT OPTION?!
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: Her Ugliness on September 28, 2023, 14:14
Not so fun fact: When I searched for the not existing opt-out option I discovered that I can't even delete my account: "An unexpected error has occurred. Please try again later".
Agencies are screwing us over so much, I would not even be surprised if they disabeled the account deletion option deliberately untill they can harvest all our images for their AI training.
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: focus40 on September 28, 2023, 20:22
Danny at Canva where is the option to opt OUT : "(b) If you do not want Canva, its affiliates or its third party service providers to use your Stock Media to develop and improve artificial intelligence or machine learning models you can opt-out by filling out this form."

If "this form," is supposed to be a clickable hyperlink, it's not.
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: DannyCanva on September 28, 2023, 23:12
Danny at Canva where is the option to opt OUT : "(b) If you do not want Canva, its affiliates or its third party service providers to use your Stock Media to develop and improve artificial intelligence or machine learning models you can opt-out by filling out this form."

If "this form," is supposed to be a clickable hyperlink, it's not.

The form is here: https://www.canva.com/en_au/help/creators-support-form/ (https://www.canva.com/en_au/help/creators-support-form/)

Select "Do not allow Canva or its partners to learn from my Creator content to improve AI" and your contributions will not be used for AI training. You also will not receive additional AI royalties, which will be paid in ~20 days. AI royalties will continued to be paid each and every month going forward.

We are providing everyone with a 20 day notification period, in which we are not starting AI training, so people have a chance to opt out if they would like.
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: JustAnImage on September 29, 2023, 05:51
... additional AI royalties, which will be paid in ~20 days. AI royalties will continued to be paid each and every month going forward.
Dear DannyCanva,

will we, as contributors, be able to see in the statement how much we have received via AI royalties and how much we have received via "normal" royalties per month?
We would be very pleased to receive an answer :-)

Have a nice day@all,
Michael
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: RetroMo on September 29, 2023, 17:08
Hi @dannycanva can you please clarify if the contributor ai opt-in / opt-out option is permanent or not? Are we able to opt-out at a later date after opting-in, and vice-versa?
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: DannyCanva on October 04, 2023, 10:13
Hi @dannycanva can you please clarify if the contributor ai opt-in / opt-out option is permanent or not? Are we able to opt-out at a later date after opting-in, and vice-versa?
No, it isn't permanent. You can opt-out at a later date, and if you opt-out, you can opt-in at a later date.

If you opt out right now, you will not receive the initial one-time bonus royalties; however if you opt-back-in at a later point in time, you will still receive the monthly AI royalties.
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: DannyCanva on October 04, 2023, 10:14
... additional AI royalties, which will be paid in ~20 days. AI royalties will continued to be paid each and every month going forward.
Dear DannyCanva,

will we, as contributors, be able to see in the statement how much we have received via AI royalties and how much we have received via "normal" royalties per month?
We would be very pleased to receive an answer :-)

Have a nice day@all,
Michael
Yes :)
Title: Re: Guess y’all better leave Canva!
Post by: JustAnImage on October 04, 2023, 10:30
... additional AI royalties, which will be paid in ~20 days. AI royalties will continued to be paid each and every month going forward.
Dear DannyCanva,

will we, as contributors, be able to see in the statement how much we have received via AI royalties and how much we have received via "normal" royalties per month?
We would be very pleased to receive an answer :-)

Have a nice day@all,
Michael
Yes :)
Thank you for letting us know - so I am looking forward to see what will be the first number :-)

Have a nice day@All