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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2019, 11:35 »
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I had my largest sell ever on Alamy this month for 600 bucks. Not even what I would call a good pic. Maybe bad is the way to go...


« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2019, 12:36 »
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Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I cant complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.
Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2019, 19:11 »
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First time I've seen this.

« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2019, 00:36 »
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First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2019, 00:39 by Eco »

« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2019, 01:14 »
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First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

This is from the new the multi currencies feature, but the dashboard shows $ symbol. The sale is in another currency not USD. They create now a new contributor section and all this will be fixed. They still thinks about its contributors, i'm one of the first there and really like Canva (except the Getty deal).

« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2019, 07:03 »
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First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

This is from the new the multi currencies feature, but the dashboard shows $ symbol. The sale is in another currency not USD. They create now a new contributor section and all this will be fixed. They still thinks about its contributors, i'm one of the first there and really like Canva (except the Getty deal).
Is the new contributor site ready?

« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2019, 07:08 »
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First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

This is from the new the multi currencies feature, but the dashboard shows $ symbol. The sale is in another currency not USD. They create now a new contributor section and all this will be fixed. They still thinks about its contributors, i'm one of the first there and really like Canva (except the Getty deal).
Is the new contributor site ready?

No, it will take a couple of months.

« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2019, 07:09 »
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First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

This is from the new the multi currencies feature, but the dashboard shows $ symbol. The sale is in another currency not USD. They create now a new contributor section and all this will be fixed. They still thinks about its contributors, i'm one of the first there and really like Canva (except the Getty deal).
Is the new contributor site ready?

No, it will take a couple of months.
Well let's see how the new site improve things. Hopefully they realize the Getty deal was a disaster and try to fix it

Me


« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2019, 11:21 »
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Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I cant complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.
Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.

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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2019, 11:44 »
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Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I cant complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.
Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.
i agree..
in my opinion they should have raised the price even from beginning...1 dollar minimum was already to low for the time, considering before company spent 50 100 dollar for same usage. they could have asked 3 5 dollar aup...nowadays they are facing a big challenge, the big number of free images offered...if i browse unspalsh in most cases i found the quality more like stocksy than micro, more creative...and they are free! apart released file, but i suspect many don't care a dim in this world about using an unreleased file, customer now have the opportunity to save hundreds of dollar of extended licensed files, those that   sold in the past in ss and made a month good or bad...who will spend 300 dollar for a landscape files? or food? or  still life? when they can spend zero moose the tie for a better files?
at this point i wish ss will lower those price of enhanced, better collect 10 15 dollar but re begin selling extend license at a pace that make a month good or bad...if i sell 20 extended at 15 is much better than zero at 79 or 100.
but the race towards the bottom is unfortunately unstoppable. the only thing we can do is   focus on quality and other way to sell. but again we are facing a big competition, in instagram everybody is a photographer and probably there are 100 200 million of potential professions, while the market can absorb probably not more than 50k.
tough game.

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2019, 11:51 »
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https://medium.com/unsplash/ive-been-sharing-my-photography-for-free-on-unsplash-for-the-past-4-years-here-s-what-i-found-7af80c8df39f

really when i read this article makes me think how idiot those people are....

they give away for free those files and are amazed that they receive 1,7 million download for 460 files...1,7 million download!!

and   the quality is stocksy   , they could have sold a lot much better....and this idiot   is happy he had 3 4 gigs in two years who probably   collected him less than 10k...considering he is a novice probably the bank contacted him because some agency quoted a big price for a gig and they requested him to do the work for a lot less money...and this pathetic idiot is even happy...a new era for photography...giving away everything and hope somebody contact them..they should ut in a big giant boat and abandoned in the open sea.

« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2019, 12:21 »
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Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I cant complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.
Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.
If there are less large sales on all the main agencies, lower prices or not, but people still spend the same, where do people spend that money now? Where did the big sales go? Or people really do spend less money now than before?

Behavior of the buyers plays a huge role in our earnings. If there were a higher prices since the beginning of microstock, that would be probably ok in the beginning, but would it be now? Why are some people so sure that the sales nowadays wouldn't drop even more with those higher prices?

Of course, I'm not saying let's drop the prices even more to make the buyers happy, I'm saying we should meet with the buyers in the optimal spot - the spot which will gives us the highest earnings. People who think raising prices 10x would do good for us are too emotional and delusional. Too bad that reality isn't better, but it is what it is, which is why microstock > macrostock.

jonbull

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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2019, 12:29 »
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Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I cant complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.
Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.
If there are less large sales on all the main agencies, lower prices or not, but people still spend the same, where do people spend that money now? Where did the big sales go? Or people really do spend less money now than before?

Behavior of the buyers plays a huge role in our earnings. If there were a higher prices since the beginning of microstock, that would be probably ok in the beginning, but would it be now? Why are some people so sure that the sales nowadays wouldn't drop even more with those higher prices?

Of course, I'm not saying let's drop the prices even more to make the buyers happy, I'm saying we should meet with the buyers in the optimal spot - the spot which will gives us the highest earnings. People who think raising prices 10x would do good for us are too emotional and delusional. Too bad that reality isn't better, but it is what it is, which is why microstock > macrostock.

less than this?
what is 0,15 cent rrpd?

« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2019, 11:20 »
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For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.

« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2019, 11:57 »
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For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.
Are you specialized in backgrounds?

« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2019, 19:00 »
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For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.

Needs 50 votes to get a rating and tier number. 

« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2019, 03:33 »
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For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.
Are you specialized in backgrounds?

Not really but it is a handful of background pictures that makes the majority of my sales.

« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2019, 03:34 »
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For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.

Needs 50 votes to get a rating and tier number.

I did not know.

« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2019, 19:36 »
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If you hover over their name in the poll it tells you the number of votes and ranking, which is 39 and 13.9 for Canva right now.  I guess that puts them at the top of the middle tier.

« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2019, 20:34 »
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I thought January was pretty bad, but February said "hold my beer". I hope it picks back up and isn't a permanent change.

« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2019, 10:06 »
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February is horrible. And it's a short month!

« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2019, 12:15 »
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Sales are very poor, thanks Canva for merging database with getty images.

« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2019, 20:28 »
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Sales are very poor, thanks Canva for merging database with getty images.

Does anyone know what amount Getty/istock contributors receive from Canva sales? 

« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2019, 03:20 »
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Sales are very poor, thanks Canva for merging database with getty images.

Does anyone know what amount Getty/istock contributors receive from Canva sales?

$0.15 and $1.50

« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2019, 11:20 »
+1
Seems this is going to be the worst month for me in quite some time.


 

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