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« on: December 01, 2021, 11:17 »
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-01/melanie-perkins-the-billionaire-behind-canva-bloomberg-50-2021

"Shes currently worth $5.9 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

After building this fortune, Perkins is now busy trying to give it away."

How about paying contributors more?


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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2021, 12:08 »
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-01/melanie-perkins-the-billionaire-behind-canva-bloomberg-50-2021

"Shes currently worth $5.9 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

After building this fortune, Perkins is now busy trying to give it away."

How about paying contributors more?

Her and Jon can sail the oceans in their luxury yachts and stay in their mansions that they have in several countries! Billionaires made of the backs of our skin!

« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2021, 12:12 »
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I'm so sick of this "let's feed the Africa", we're feeding them like 50 years and they're still hungry. We should teach them how to feed themselves.

« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2021, 18:19 »
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I'm so sick of this "let's feed the Africa", we're feeding them like 50 years and they're still hungry. We should teach them how to feed themselves.

That and birth control might get you somewhere but i don't see that happening any time soon.

« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2021, 04:09 »
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I'm so sick of this "let's feed the Africa", we're feeding them like 50 years and they're still hungry. We should teach them how to feed themselves.
We need to stop stealing all the fish from their water first though.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2021, 04:22 by Justanotherphotographer »

« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2021, 04:40 »
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I'm so sick of this "let's feed the Africa", we're feeding them like 50 years and they're still hungry. We should teach them how to feed themselves.
We need to stop stealing all the fish from their water first though.

Kind of. It's not our reposibility for their bad corrupt business decisions, which servers only to those in the power and not their people.

« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2021, 05:49 »
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Kind of. It's not our reposibility for their bad corrupt business decisions, which servers only to those in the power and not their people.

I am not going to get deep into it here because it isnt something that I can convince anyone of with a few posts on a forum. I would recommend studying politics, history, economics and current events with regards to the relationship between what has been called the first and third world (I know the history of the terms and I am misapplying them but I am just speaking colloquially). Their situation is largely our responsibility and those leaders are there in many cases due to outside interests. Thats not to say we necessarily should be throwing money to NGOs/ charities with sometimes questionable motivations and efficacy, but it does give you some perspective.

« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2021, 08:08 »
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Kind of. It's not our reposibility for their bad corrupt business decisions, which servers only to those in the power and not their people.

I am not going to get deep into it here because it isnt something that I can convince anyone of with a few posts on a forum. I would recommend studying politics, history, economics and current events with regards to the relationship between what has been called the first and third world (I know the history of the terms and I am misapplying them but I am just speaking colloquially). Their situation is largely our responsibility and those leaders are there in many cases due to outside interests. Thats not to say we necessarily should be throwing money to NGOs/ charities with sometimes questionable motivations and efficacy, but it does give you some perspective.

No this is not our responsibility it's their own, and they need to stop reproducing with no control. Politics and history doesn't tell me that these people should live in poverty forever, in terrible conditions, because of your blaming outside interests. They need to govern and work from within and throwing money or food at them which will be stolen or traded, and never make it to the people who need it, is not the answer.

These billionaires should send money to the artists who did the work.

« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2021, 10:58 »
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No this is not our responsibility it's their own, and they need to stop reproducing with no control. Politics and history doesn't tell me that these people should live in poverty forever, in terrible conditions, because of your blaming outside interests. They need to govern and work from within and throwing money or food at them which will be stolen or traded, and never make it to the people who need it, is not the answer.

These billionaires should send money to the artists who did the work.

Although I agree that billionaires should share the pot more equitably instead of stuffing every single tiny crumb of money into their ever gaping maws, your statement about those in need shows such tremendous ignorance and lack of insight, devoid of any historical and current context, never mind human empathy that I worry for you and those around you.

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2021, 12:34 »
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I'm going to play the devil's advocate here: although as a Canva contributor I'd be happy if she decided to give some of her wealth back to us (if she's willing to share), what I sense most from this thread is jealousy and resentment towards 'the rich people'.

Even though we CHOSE to supply Canva with our work, so in essence, we voluntarily helped her build her fortune and we accepted the terms and conditions (i.e. the royalty structure) of Canva (or any other agency).
If you wanted to be rich, then perhaps you should have chosen a different profession, or created a Canva-like business 8 years ago. Most of us would likely have failed at it, but still, anyone is free to pursue any business idea they deem successful. 

So ask yourself, are you really angry at their lack of sharing wealth, or are you angry at yourself for not being as successful financially?
Some people here even try to have a go at Africa, which sounds like pure entitlement ("I deserve her charity more than Africa because we've been feeding them for over 50 years and look how far they got!")

« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2021, 13:07 »
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I totally agree with you, she came up with good idea and became succesful and rich. And Im'm not angry at her at all, she obviously deserve it.

What I'm saying is, throwing money at this botomless sack called Africa (and also I'm not saying she should give her money to contributors, although I wouldn't mind ofcourse) is not solution. We're helping them for decades and it didnt get them anywhere. They need shovels and hoes, not money

« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2021, 14:52 »
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Firstly... Your problems are not because somebody else is a billionaire.

Secondly... Apart from two countries in Africa the rest were colonized and exploited for all they were worth. They are no longer colonized but the abuse continues under neo colonialism.




Uncle Pete

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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2021, 16:13 »
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No this is not our responsibility it's their own, and they need to stop reproducing with no control. Politics and history doesn't tell me that these people should live in poverty forever, in terrible conditions, because of your blaming outside interests. They need to govern and work from within and throwing money or food at them which will be stolen or traded, and never make it to the people who need it, is not the answer.

These billionaires should send money to the artists who did the work.

Although I agree that billionaires should share the pot more equitably instead of stuffing every single tiny crumb of money into their ever gaping maws, your statement about those in need shows such tremendous ignorance and lack of insight, devoid of any historical and current context, never mind human empathy that I worry for you and those around you.

I think after reading the end of that, his point might be that the governments, the crooks the clan militia, the dictators and others, steal the aid. Here's a direct quote from one such story about Somalia. "Some reports at the time indicated that up to 80 percent of the internationally provided food relief was stolen, and some aid was traded across borders in exchange for arms."

The US provides as much as 70% of the aid to some of these countries. Of course we care and have empathy, but turning a blind eye to a bad and abused system, doesn't make any feel good ideas, any more functional. Empathy doesn't feed people or solve problems, action does.

Maybe she should be donating the money to Australia? "1 in 6 Australian adults havent had enough to eat in the last year. On top of this, 1.2 million children have gone hungry during the same period." Start at home, helping her own people.


« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2021, 16:35 »
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Maybe she should be donating the money to Australia? "1 in 6 Australian adults havent had enough to eat in the last year. On top of this, 1.2 million children have gone hungry during the same period." Start at home, helping her own people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2021, 16:48 »
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Maybe she should be donating the money to Australia? "1 in 6 Australian adults havent had enough to eat in the last year. On top of this, 1.2 million children have gone hungry during the same period." Start at home, helping her own people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country

Right if poverty is the measure, South America and Africa are doing terrible. It looks like the Congo, South Africa, Madagascar and the central Africa region is a pocket of poverty and I'm sure hard life.

She can send the money anyplace she pleases for any cause she wants. I think some people were just getting at the point that contributors could get a better share, since they are the ones, making the company and the owners wealthy. In effect I see it as taking from one person, who is working hard to make their own way and giving it to someone else, who also needs the aid. Why not support your suppliers?

« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2021, 17:00 »
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Maybe she should be donating the money to Australia? "1 in 6 Australian adults havent had enough to eat in the last year. On top of this, 1.2 million children have gone hungry during the same period." Start at home, helping her own people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country

Right if poverty is the measure, South America and Africa are doing terrible. It looks like the Congo, South Africa, Madagascar and the central Africa region is a pocket of poverty and I'm sure hard life.

She can send the money anyplace she pleases for any cause she wants. I think some people were just getting at the point that contributors could get a better share, since they are the ones, making the company and the owners wealthy. In effect I see it as taking from one person, who is working hard to make their own way and giving it to someone else, who also needs the aid. Why not support your suppliers?

I just wanted others to know that Australians are not that hard-done-by.

« Last Edit: December 03, 2021, 17:30 by Annie »

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2021, 18:12 »
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Maybe she should be donating the money to Australia? "1 in 6 Australian adults havent had enough to eat in the last year. On top of this, 1.2 million children have gone hungry during the same period." Start at home, helping her own people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country

Right if poverty is the measure, South America and Africa are doing terrible. It looks like the Congo, South Africa, Madagascar and the central Africa region is a pocket of poverty and I'm sure hard life.

She can send the money anyplace she pleases for any cause she wants. I think some people were just getting at the point that contributors could get a better share, since they are the ones, making the company and the owners wealthy. In effect I see it as taking from one person, who is working hard to make their own way and giving it to someone else, who also needs the aid. Why not support your suppliers?

I just wanted others to know that Australians are not that hard-done-by.

Correct! On the list of the countries with the highest standards of living AUS is #6 where the US is #20.  Maybe a few bucks tossed to the US  8)

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2021, 18:33 »
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Maybe she should be donating the money to Australia? "1 in 6 Australian adults havent had enough to eat in the last year. On top of this, 1.2 million children have gone hungry during the same period." Start at home, helping her own people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country

Right if poverty is the measure, South America and Africa are doing terrible. It looks like the Congo, South Africa, Madagascar and the central Africa region is a pocket of poverty and I'm sure hard life.

She can send the money anyplace she pleases for any cause she wants. I think some people were just getting at the point that contributors could get a better share, since they are the ones, making the company and the owners wealthy. In effect I see it as taking from one person, who is working hard to make their own way and giving it to someone else, who also needs the aid. Why not support your suppliers?

I just wanted others to know that Australians are not that hard-done-by.

LOL I was kind of pointing out that millions of people are needy in Australia, beyond the good conditions, income, health care and all kinds of positives. (better than the US!) There are also many in the US that are hungry and needy while we are taking care of the poor in other countries, sending millions in aid, and at home people are still suffering. I think I could have said it better, but charity starts at home.

So I was saying, maybe she should give money to the artists, who work for their own families, and if not, then give money at home, to her own locals that could use it.


« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2021, 04:47 »
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I totally agree with you, she came up with good idea and became succesful and rich. And Im'm not angry at her at all, she obviously deserve it.

What I'm saying is, throwing money at this botomless sack called Africa (and also I'm not saying she should give her money to contributors, although I wouldn't mind ofcourse) is not solution. We're helping them for decades and it didnt get them anywhere. They need shovels and hoes, not money
I tend to agree that what has been done charity wise isnt working, and that a lot of these big charities are scam adjacent anyway. Heres one article https://www.npr.org/2015/06/03/411524156/in-search-of-the-red-cross-500-million-in-haiti-relief?t=1638610706953

I know not Africa but I think the problems are across the sector (I am not sure how we got sidetracked to Africa specifically)

But I also have to say that the framing of throwing money to these countries is absolutely the reverse of the truth. These countries have been a goldmine of wealth to extract for the West.

The West has had a veto over their policies and leadership that we haven't hesitated use whenever they even think about doing anything for their people that will inevitably jeopardise international capital (Western countries getting the benefits of all their resources). If this veto can be used via pressure from the IMF, WTO etc. then fine. If that doesn't work, time for a coup or assassination. Its why the framing of these being poor countries is so weird, these are often the most resource rich countries on earth, thats their curse.

« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2021, 05:18 »
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-01/melanie-perkins-the-billionaire-behind-canva-bloomberg-50-2021

"Shes currently worth $5.9 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

After building this fortune, Perkins is now busy trying to give it away."

How about paying contributors more?

I am not sure how this works given that the stock market seems to be largely untethered from profits now. Some of the worlds most highly valued companies have never really made a profit. Her earnings are from her shareholdings, and the price of those is controlled by demand for shares. It doesnt necessarily mean the profits are there for giving to us a raise, or that she could if she wanted to as other shareholders would have something to say about it.

She seems like a decent person. Of course no one deserves billions of dollars and no one should have the disproportionate power that brings in our society (completely undemocratic). Thats nothing to do with her and shes doing her best to spread the wealth (the way this many resources get distributed should 100% not be down the whims of a few individual's, but again thats not her fault, its the system).

Anyway, yes they should pay us more and we should have a lot more transparency (we dont even know how much we are getting per dl or whats being downloaded for subs). But this is all separate from her personal billions etc. which is more an issue for the way countries govern/ tax.


 

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