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« on: April 26, 2019, 04:45 »
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This is really scary... good thing I do not offer photos yet on this site. They give me very good sales with vectors but...:
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Important Update to the Canva Contributor Agreement

Dear contributor,

Were making some changes to the Canva Contributor Agreement, to reflect the new image subscription product that we'll be launching soon.

For contributors, this new product offers the following benefits:
   A second revenue stream, in addition to regular sales made within Canva
   Access to a massive customer base
   Potential for more revenue per customer thanks to the recurring subscription model
While users will be able to use all the images they like just like a Spotify or Netflix subscription (and at a similar price point), we will be actively monitoring and blocking any abuse of the service. Please note that at this stage the subscription will only include photos (not vectors).

Feel free to contact us with any further questions: contributors@canva.com.

Cheers,

The Canva Content Team

Basically they seem to become a ''Free site'' wtih a 10$ paid subscription... I wonder what the contributors will get out of that...


swisschocolate

  • A girl from the Alps
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2019, 05:43 »
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Oh my... :-\

Why do they all compare themselves to entertainment websites?
Who is that stupid there to think that watching a movie and licensing a movie are the same?
 
Netflix pays miilions to its "contributors" to buy their content to add to their collection!
They pay literally millions of dollars to comedians, filmmakers etc. to be able to stream their products on their platform!

And you can't download and use a movie from Netflix!

Either they are idiots, or they think we are :D
« Last Edit: April 26, 2019, 06:16 by swisschocolate »

« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2019, 06:14 »
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Got the same email, asked them for more details and for an opt-out...
Though likely the only opt-out will be to delete the account with them.

« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2019, 06:22 »
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How can they send this out and not give details on what the royalty is?

« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2019, 08:05 »
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How can they send this out and not give details on what the royalty is?
Yea, id like to know that too!


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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2019, 08:06 »
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Oh my... :-\

Why do they all compare themselves to entertainment websites?
Who is that stupid there to think that watching a movie and licensing a movie are the same?
 
Netflix pays miilions to its "contributors" to buy their content to add to their collection!
They pay literally millions of dollars to comedians, filmmakers etc. to be able to stream their products on their platform!

And you can't download and use a movie from Netflix!

Either they are idiots, or they think we are :D
YES! I agree!!


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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2019, 08:08 »
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Im now glad I dont have much up there as it got difficult to figure out what they wanted   ;)


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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2019, 08:09 »
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I'll delete my portfolio!

« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2019, 08:39 »
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cava who?

luckily i uploaded just a few hundred files ...

« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2019, 09:13 »
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I really hope they remember their sales pitch when they were getting us to sign up.

They clearly said the low return per sale was acceptable because unlike a subscription package on SS their customers would only be able to use the image in the one design they were making on the site.

We have to assume they will be paying a decent amount for a subscription downloads, a lot more than the standard sales, or else they were BS-ing us, and they wouldn't do that right?...right?

« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2019, 09:21 »
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Canva is on the roll lately with "exciting news". I don't know if we can handle all that excitement.

« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2019, 09:29 »
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Yeah I'm really worried. One of the few new models and they hired some good people. The IS deal makes me think this subs thing may not go well.

The WORST news would be that they will be offering it as a partner site to IStock, and IStock contributors will be getting a cent or two per download through them.

« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2019, 09:58 »
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Sigh

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swisschocolate

  • A girl from the Alps
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2019, 10:16 »
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The WORST news would be that they will be offering it as a partner site to IStock, and IStock contributors will be getting a cent or two per download through them.

This was the first thing that came to my mind, I tried to imagine that 0,0000000001c royalty on IS :D

Mir

« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2019, 10:27 »
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Did they have some license change recently, because for a few months the Multi-use license sales are almost non existent for me and now I make less with more downloads.
I wonder what has changed that people no longer buy those.

« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2019, 10:48 »
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Et tu, Canva?

« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2019, 11:14 »
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EO

« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2019, 11:26 »
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The biggest draw for Canva customers was that it was free and you paid only for what you used. That was the selling point of everyone who recommended it, especially casual users like bloggers, and social media users. I feel like a subscription model will likely drive them away.

« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2019, 13:06 »
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The details are what really matters - and they haven't told us any of them. I replied that 0.35 every time someone uses my image is fine, or some percentage of the sub price every time a user looks at an image (like spotify or Netflix).

They had a new model and were actually somewhat exciting (in the real meaning of the word). Since the Getty deal and now this they are more "exciting" in the microstock meaning.

I fear I'll be deleting my port there.

« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2019, 11:28 »
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Strangely, the portfolio page is down: it is not possible to remove my images.

I sent a mail to canva telling them I do no agree with the update and asking how to remove my images. I

« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2019, 11:39 »
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A common "404" message, no "Sorry" here...  :-\

EO

« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2019, 23:47 »
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Strangely, the portfolio page is down: it is not possible to remove my images.



Posted this in another thread:
News from Canva on the problem with the portfolio page (contributor email):

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Our engineers are working hard to fix the issue, however in the meantime you can use this alternative URL to see your images: www.canva.com/h1-content/portfolio. Use this for the next week and after that the usual page should be working just fine


« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2019, 17:18 »
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mmy sales on canva have tanked, not sure why, but the website down and the announcement might have something to do with it

used to have daily sales, now have 5 day gaps, and overall only sold on 50% of the days in april.,

« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2019, 06:44 »
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Here's what I got back:
"To answer your question about royalties, revenue will be calculated based on the subscriber share model, which means that we distribute 50% of revenue to contributors shared based on the number of sales made by each photographer.

In regards to opting out, you just have to give me the word and I'll take your name off the list. That said, opting out of the subscription unfortunately automatically means your images won't appear anywhere in Canva :(

Can I suggest that you give it a month or so and see if you're happy with it, and you may opt out at any stage thereafter?"

« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2019, 06:47 »
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Same as you Sean  ???
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How much will we be paid per download for this free buffet subscription?
The subscription will be $12.95/month, and we'll be sharing revenue 50-50 with contributors. We'll be monitoring usage to ensure no one is abusing this subscription.

Can we opt-out of that?

Of course you may. Opting-out of the subscription will also unfortunately opt you out of the regular library too, which is why I would suggest hanging in there until you see how the first month or so goes. You can opt-out at any stage Patrick.

I hope this helps!

Cheers,

Elle

P.S. We've launched a new blog to share the latest ideas and case studies from our team. Check it out here: product.canva.com.

« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2019, 06:54 »
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Here's what I got:

"Thanks for taking the time to respond, I hope I can help answer all of your questions.

Could you please provide more detail of the financial side of this planned new offering?

    Revenue will be calculated based on the subscriber share model, which means that we distribute 50% of revenue to contributors shared based on the number of sales made by each photographer.


How much will customers pay, how much will contributors earn per image downloaded?

    Users will pay $12.95/month. The exact amount the contributor will earn per image will depend on the number of downloads - we'll have a better idea of this after launch.


What kind of license will be given to the customer?

    The license will be a simple single-seat, non-transferrable RF license.


And, most important, will you provide an opt out possibility? Or will deletion of my account be the only way to avoid being part of such a deal?

    You can opt-out at any point Dirk, however we're really banking on this being a success so I'd highly recommend you stay in until after launch, see how your sales revenue is performing, and if you're not happy then opt-out any time after that. I'd love to have you as a part of launch, we love your work!"


Nothing about opting out would mean effectively disabling the portfolio.
I responded asking to opt me out.

« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2019, 07:43 »
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Here is the answer I got:

Thanks for getting in touch and sorry to hear you don't want to be a part of this subscription.

I can take you off the list no problems, and your images will ceae to appear anywhere in Canva. However would you rather see how your sales go in the first month and make a decision after? You can opt out at any stage.

Let me know what you think :)

« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2019, 08:07 »
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Here's a quote I got from them:

How much are you getting for this unlimited service?
The subscription is technically 'unlimited' however we've put measures in place to avoid subscribers abusing the subscription, and we'll investigate any account that registers over 250 downloads in a single 30 day period. Also, from various experiments we've run we've found the monthly number of downloads to be extremely low.


So if the tests they ran show DL's to be extremely low - What's the point of doing this?

And they'll investigate abusers - that makes me feel so much better :-\

« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2019, 08:39 »
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A: if it is limited to 250, why lie about that?
B: Nothing about opting out would mean effectively disabling the portfolio. This is not at all what the rest of us got.  Which I assume is misleading wording about how you can never remove all your work because it will still remain in buyers projects.  But it wont now be searchable.

« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2019, 09:31 »
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So Canva is reducing itself to cheating on buyers or lying to us about it, and blackmailing contributors? Nice going Canva. You are ruining everything you've build and worked for in the past years. Unless somebody is pointing gun to your head and forcing you to shoot us and yourself in the foot, there are no excuses for all of your "decisions" - they are both stupid and unethical.

« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2019, 09:46 »
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At 250 sales/month (which I don't know how they will limit it to that, but that is another story) we would get 0.0259 per sale. There would have to be around 18 sub sales per month for us to get the 0.35 we get now.


« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2019, 13:50 »
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I'm out of this nonsense!
Requesting opt-out! I don't care about Canva at all anymore!

« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2019, 20:02 »
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Response to my wth inquiry.

The only numbers I can get to you are the 50-50 revenue share, because given that we haven't launched yet I don't know the total pool of revenue that we'll be working with. Apologies.

In regards to opting out, yet this is correct, the images will no longer be available in our library.

So, yes, opting out is closing your account.

« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2019, 10:02 »
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So, it's been several months since this supposedly went into effect.  I see nothing in my account that says I've had any subscription sales.  Has anyone?

I asked support and they said "No, the subscription has not been cancelled. You are paid a lump sum for that, if your images have been used.".

« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2019, 10:49 »
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I was wondering about that as well.

« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2019, 11:24 »
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When I asked in early August, I was told that the report would come after the first quarter and it had only just launched. Thereafter it will be reported monthly.

I will close my account on 1st November unless I see a decent return for my images.

« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2019, 14:29 »
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When I asked in early August, I was told that the report would come after the first quarter and it had only just launched. Thereafter it will be reported monthly.

I will close my account on 1st November unless I see a decent return for my images.

Ah, ok.  Odd that I didn't get that answer...

Microstock Man

  • microstockman.com

« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2019, 15:33 »
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When I asked in early August, I was told that the report would come after the first quarter and it had only just launched. Thereafter it will be reported monthly.

I will close my account on 1st November unless I see a decent return for my images.

good to know thanks

« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2019, 23:40 »
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Hey everyone,

I work for Canva on the marketplace side, and I just discovered this forum. Hope it's OK for me to post here, would love to talk directly to you all and share it for everyone's benefit!

You should see Photos Unlimited earnings on the following page: newbielink:https://www.canva.com/sales [nonactive]

We now report Photos Unlimited revenue shortly after the end of each month. If you switch the date selector to August or a prior month, you should see your Photos Unlimited downloads and earnings. They are paid to you as part of our normal payment processes.

In terms of earnings, I can share that Photos Unlimited revenue is growing by double digits every month, and so should your earnings as well since everything is a 50/50 split.

The royalty per usage is growing as well. For example, Sept $/usage (MTD) is 26% higher than August. As with many subscription products, usage tends to be 'front-loaded', and this is a very new subscription product.

We think Photos Unlimited is only 1% of where it will be. We'd really love it if you choose to stay with us, as we're growing Photos Unlimited and increasing your earnings every month - as the numbers in your account should show. As this is a public forum, I'm not at liberty to share much of our future product and commercial plans, but we're investing heavily in growing your and our earnings. I know some of you have been part of our program since the very inception, and we know Canva wouldn't have been the same without you.

Hope this helps, and let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

Cheers,
Danny
« Last Edit: September 24, 2019, 23:29 by DannyCanva »

« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2019, 07:02 »
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https://www.canva.com/account/sales :

Not found(404)
Sorry, the page you are looking for does not exist.

Take me home or try this puzzle ↓

« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2019, 07:04 »
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farbled

« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2019, 10:10 »
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Hi Danny, I recently closed my Canva account when my income got slashed with your istock deal. And by slashed I mean an exponential decrease. I was never a big earner compared to some, but I made a few hundred bucks a month, every month, and it was always increasing until your deal.

Canva had made promises when you opened to draw in contributors, but as far as I can tell you haven't honored them. Even "small" things like improving the contributor back-end fell away.

I was willing to give your company a break when you messed up royalty payments, or left my bestselling works in limbo for years as "pending cutout" without an option to delete them. But now you are acting like every other agency, trying to get every last penny from the contributors instead of continuing to innovate like we all hoped you would.

And fyi, one of your founders has been familiar with this forum for years. That you are "just discovering" it speaks volumes.

Thanks but no thanks. Actions not words.

« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2019, 10:14 »
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...I work for Canva on the marketplace side, and I just discovered this forum. Hope it's OK for me to post here, ...

Danny, I suggest you contact the forum moderator (link at the bottom of each page; it'll go to Tyler Olson; leaf is his user name here) to get yourself a "Verified" logo that shows you are a representative of the company. Makes it easier for users to know who's who.

« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2019, 11:51 »
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So if there are no sales listed as "photos unlimited" or at least nothing that is not "One-time use" and the now very rare "Multi-use" does that mean there have been no sales via photos unlimited (at least none in previous months?).

I do know that Canva offered something new and sales were decent and growing or at least somewhat steady until they fell off a cliff. Reviews have always been a little cryptic and mostly rejections but what got accepted did sell from time to time. Also I noticed that sometimes my port would shrink - so there were after the fact removals. I never could figure out which images those were for though.

« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2019, 12:55 »
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You should see Photos Unlimited earnings on the following page: https://www.canva.com/account/sales

Even at the correct link, I show no subscription sales.  My sample size should be big enough, although I'm down 75% in DLs from last August and even more in $$$.

Someone else here said they wouldn't have shown up yet at all.

« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2019, 13:00 »
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Hey everyone,

We now report Photos Unlimited revenue shortly after the end of each month. If you switch the date selector to August or a prior month, you should see your Photos Unlimited downloads and earnings. They are paid to you as part of our normal payment processes.


I only see 'Royalty Sales' - there is a 'Commission Sales' option which is zero - is this it? Do I take it that I didn't earn anything from Photos Unlimited for August?

« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2019, 13:02 »
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You should see Photos Unlimited earnings on the following page: https://www.canva.com/account/sales

Even at the correct link, I show no subscription sales.  My sample size should be big enough, although I'm down 75% in DLs from last August and even more in $$$.

Someone else here said they wouldn't have shown up yet at all.

I was told that we would be paid after the first quarter, so I wasn't expecting anything yet. We are being given contradictory information, which doesn't increase my confidence in Canva.


« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2019, 00:55 »
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You should see Photos Unlimited earnings on the following page: https://www.canva.com/account/sales

Even at the correct link, I show no subscription sales.  My sample size should be big enough, although I'm down 75% in DLs from last August and even more in $$$.

Someone else here said they wouldn't have shown up yet at all.

I have more than 10K images there and I was in around top 30 in Canva before the drop last year. I don't see any of this subscription sales.

Mir

« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2019, 03:26 »
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I have more than 10K images there and I was in around top 30 in Canva before the drop last year. I don't see any of this subscription sales.

Where are you seeing your position?

« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2019, 03:33 »
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I don't see any of this subscription sales.
To to so, look at refunds at Istock ESP...  :-\

« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2019, 07:45 »
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my sales are 75% down too... were are the good news? not good news at all  :(

« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2019, 20:00 »
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I have more than 10K images there and I was in around top 30 in Canva before the drop last year. I don't see any of this subscription sales.

Hey Deyan, please see my last reply.

You will see subscription sales in the new interface, which is rolling out by next Monday. I can confirm you have subscription sales. Sorry that it's not showing up on the old dashboard.

« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2019, 06:06 »
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I have more than 10K images there and I was in around top 30 in Canva before the drop last year. I don't see any of this subscription sales.

Hey Deyan, please see my last reply.

You will see subscription sales in the new interface, which is rolling out by next Monday. I can confirm you have subscription sales. Sorry that it's not showing up on the old dashboard.

Thanks Danny, I'll expect it.

MxR

« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2019, 10:19 »
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I have more than 10K images there and I was in around top 30 in Canva before the drop last year. I don't see any of this subscription sales.

Hey Deyan, please see my last reply.

You will see subscription sales in the new interface, which is rolling out by next Monday. I can confirm you have subscription sales. Sorry that it's not showing up on the old dashboard.

I send e-mail to close my account because this will kill my other agencies income.

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2019, 11:54 »
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240/5000
I just found out very recently. I have also sent to close my account. We should boycott these agencies. Shutter and fotolia should give a warning not to support images from sites with unlimited subscription. Stockphoto is not Netflix or Spotify

« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2019, 20:17 »
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You will see subscription sales in the new interface, which is rolling out by next Monday. I can confirm you have subscription sales. Sorry that it's not showing up on the old dashboard.

Still not seeing anything new in the reporting.

« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2019, 11:44 »
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You will see subscription sales in the new interface, which is rolling out by next Monday. I can confirm you have subscription sales. Sorry that it's not showing up on the old dashboard.

Still not seeing anything new in the reporting.

I'm not either. It is probably Wednesday in Australia.

« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2019, 19:32 »
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Hi Danny,

Did I miss an email or notice? All the images I had that are "pending cut-out" since you opened are actually up for sale without being cut-out. Has the policy on that changed? I was told there "was no way" those files could be changed.


gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2019, 17:34 »
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"next Monday".... is actually a public holiday in Australia (or at least, in NSW where Canva is HQ'd).

« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2019, 19:01 »
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"next Monday".... is actually a public holiday in Australia (or at least, in NSW where Canva is HQ'd).

Look when he wrote that - his next Monday was 6 days ago.

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2019, 02:54 »
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They are definitely liars. I remember not long ago the deactivation of fotolia files when they created the dollar Photo Club.

Anyone who sells their entire portfolio for $ 12 is an idiot auction that only deserves to be downloaded by a pirate and resold.


PZF

« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2019, 01:54 »
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They are definitely liars. I remember not long ago the deactivation of fotolia files when they created the dollar Photo Club.

Anyone who sells their entire portfolio for $ 12 is an idiot auction that only deserves to be downloaded by a pirate and resold.

The idea has always been 'single USE' within a Canva production. That is, the full res image was not actually downloaded to the client. Has that changed? Can people actually download for future use - in anything?

« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2019, 21:48 »
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I can finally see the new interface - looks great!  Subscription sales have ranged from around $0.08 to $0.22 per DL so that part is not very impressive for contributors.  But thanks for the new improved interface - it is much improved.

« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2019, 21:50 »
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Well I am finally seeing the new dashboard -

April my Subs got me $1.27 (15 dl's @ 0.084 per image)
May $4.38. (27 dl's @ 0.1622 per image)
June $10.12 (52 dl's @ 0.1946 per image)
July $12.68 (67 dl's @ 0.1907 per image)

What a great deal for us - so makes up for the hundreds of dollars I'm down each month since the Getty deal and free images started, >:(

« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2019, 22:38 »
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I can see the new dashboard too. It looks good.

It might look good, BUT when I click on August - it shows the sales from Sept and April down below (that is the date of sales reported anyway).

For July is shows August, Sept, May, March, and April sales. plus the dates jump around and repeat as I scroll down.


 I am curious what images are popular for the all you can eat buffet. A quick look seems that the subs average around .19 each. It would be nice to see what images sold and what I made from each sale. I bet there are some crazy low ones and some that are pretty big, but I have no way of really knowing.

Easy changes they could make - show the number of subs sales for the current month.

not so easy changes - show the actual sub sales and amounts

easy or not - show the sales for the selected month in chronological order.

« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2019, 00:41 »
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When I click on "Payments" I still only see my earnings from my normal sales. The subscription sales are not reflected under "unpaid earnings", nor under "all time earnings". How are we being paid for these subscription earnings? Are they separate from the normal sales?

Also, I am really not impressed with the low RPD of the subscription sales. Very disappointing. Competition with IS to see how low an agency can go. I bet if we accept this devaluation of our images it will not be long before the other agencies follow.

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2019, 03:09 »
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This is first month (may) 1000 files portfolio

0,08 per sale

Waiting response of close account



« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 03:12 by JaenStock »

« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2019, 05:35 »
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This is first month (may) 1000 files portfolio

0,08 per sale

Waiting response of close account

Let we be honest, this is only in May by my opinion. Each month after May have average 0.20 USD on subscriptions which is not much but not 0.08
« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 05:49 by Deyan Georgiev »

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2019, 06:56 »
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This is first month (may) 1000 files portfolio

0,08 per sale

Waiting response of close account

Let we be honest, this is only in May by my opinion. Each month after May have average 0.20 USD on subscriptions which is not much but not 0.08

June: 0.15
July  0.21
August: 0.21

But in long term is not imposible be worst

But...Who will want to buy my photos in creative market, shutter or adobe if they have part of my portfolio for 12 dollars?( i have here 20% of my microstock images)

For me this income is garbage. I have a niche and I'm going to take it out of canva. (I've already taken it out manually)






fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2019, 08:11 »
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I did an in-depth analysis of my first Canva Photos Unlimited earnings and sales in my blog:
https://www.alltageinesfotoproduzenten.de/2019/10/09/canva-unlimited-ernuechternde-analyse-der-ersten-umsaetze/
(it's German, but should translate well with Google Translate)

« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2019, 08:41 »
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This Unlimited Subs Plan is much worse than Dollar Photo Club and I'm surprised I don't see an avalanche of angry comment from contributors.
I'm glad they have only a small fraction of my portfolio and it will be relatively easy for me to delete it.

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2019, 08:46 »
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Great analysis Robert. How confident are you in the results you see in the Sales page though - whenever I click to a new month (and September 2019 isn't there in the drop down) I see different figures and image sales for multiple different months in the details.

The interface seems to be really screwed up in terms of what it is showing and the figures don't match what I have been putting into my spreadsheets each month using the older interface.

Steve

fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2019, 09:05 »
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Great analysis Robert. How confident are you in the results you see in the Sales page though - whenever I click to a new month (and September 2019 isn't there in the drop down) I see different figures and image sales for multiple different months in the details.

The interface seems to be really screwed up in terms of what it is showing and the figures don't match what I have been putting into my spreadsheets each month using the older interface.

Steve

In my Canva account "September 2019" is shown in the dropdown, see screenshot attached.
The numbers from Canva are off compared to my excel sheet as well, but only to a maximum of about 2-3 USD, so that might be "refused credit cards" or so.

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2019, 09:13 »
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Strange! Here is my snapshot:

Steve

« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2019, 09:25 »
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I don't see Sept either.

« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2019, 10:08 »
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April $.08
May $.16
June $.19
July $.19
August $.22

Since this subscription program is subject to their "multi-use" license https://about.canva.com/license-agreements/multi-use/ , I guess I will have to close my account until they implement an opt-out or minimum.  If they were still making what they did a year ago, that might be rough, but since it dropped 90%, it won't be too hard.  Sad, really.

« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 10:17 by Sean Locke Photography »

fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2019, 10:29 »
0
April $.08
May $.16
June $.19
July $.19
August $.22

Strange, I get exactly the same RPD numbers you quote, but for one month later, so from May to September.
There seems to be an error with assigning the correct month at Canva?

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2019, 10:37 »
0
Those are the numbers I see in the same months as Sean - it appears that some of us see this incorrect menu drop down for months. What a fine development team they must have over there!

« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2019, 10:41 »
0
Now that I think about it, we'll all get the exact same numbers, since they just take all the money taken in and divide it by the number of downloads.

I don't have a September option.

« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2019, 10:42 »
0
I did an in-depth analysis of my first Canva Photos Unlimited earnings and sales in my blog:
https://www.alltageinesfotoproduzenten.de/2019/10/09/canva-unlimited-ernuechternde-analyse-der-ersten-umsaetze/
(it's German, but should translate well with Google Translate)

Reading indicates that we might "all" be replaced by agencies by free contributors in time leaving a small space for niche content creators? If one agency figured it out how to profit from free contributors, guess anyone will follow?

???

« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2019, 11:25 »
+4
I didn't really follow what's happening at Canva. First look at the stats shows that my income dropped like 500% between March and June and stayed at that level.

Is that only my case or have others experienced the same?   

fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2019, 11:39 »
+3
I didn't really follow what's happening at Canva. First look at the stats shows that my income dropped like 500% between March and June and stayed at that level.

Is that only my case or have others experienced the same?

It is no wonder that revenue drops when they invite customers to use over 1 million new free images.

Mir

« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2019, 11:49 »
+2
My download numbers haven't dropped drastically but the earnings did due to the lack of multiple licenses (just a few a month).
I suppose more and more sales will be from the new subscription model once they start to market it heavily and maybe it will replace the current model completely which is sad.

« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2019, 13:09 »
+3
It's amazing how all agencies thinks about digits, numbers, units, percentages and so on, like all photos are the same and worth nothing each individually. So sad...

« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2019, 14:02 »
0
I didn't really follow what's happening at Canva. First look at the stats shows that my income dropped like 500% between March and June and stayed at that level.

Is that only my case or have others experienced the same?

It is no wonder that revenue drops when they invite customers to use over 1 million new free images.

Ok, so I guess that started around that time ?

« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2019, 16:56 »
+1
If it helps for those considering closing their account, I disabled all of my photos before closing my account, but they still do residual sales for those pictures being used in templates.

So I re-opened my account (with my images still disabled) and found that all of my "pending cut out" images are able to be licensed now. Somehow when they flipped the switch that happened.

I suggest instead of closing your accounts, simply disable your images if you can and wait until they get a handle (if ever) on their contributor interface. Might save some hassle later.

fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2019, 02:41 »
0
I didn't really follow what's happening at Canva. First look at the stats shows that my income dropped like 500% between March and June and stayed at that level.

Is that only my case or have others experienced the same?

It is no wonder that revenue drops when they invite customers to use over 1 million new free images.

The "free images" offer started in May 2019.

Ok, so I guess that started around that time ?

« Reply #88 on: October 10, 2019, 08:55 »
0
Has anybody else noticed their DL numbers randomly decrease in the new interface?

Last night when I made a final check of sales before calling it a day I had 100 dl's this morning I only have 98.

It happened once during the day yesterday when I seem to have lost a sale...

And I'm still having trouble reconciling my records with this month payment.

I may have just hit my frustration threshold with these clowns.

Stefan Dahl

  • Formerly known as Uber Images

« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2019, 11:12 »
+4
We made 323$ there in September! Thats way to little to ever ever ever be sustainable. I think we are gonna close the account this month.

I suggest all the people who have the guts follow along. Lets do the same thing we all did to Depositphotos - They ended up having an outdated library within 48hours when a lot of us with expensive portfolios deleted our pictures.

Every contributor counts here, and im sure most make so little that it doesn't matter anyway.


Best
Stefan

« Reply #90 on: October 10, 2019, 11:33 »
0
I already closed my Canva account in May. Unfortunately my portfolio on iStock is published on Canva. I will end up by making pennies on Canva through iStock  >:(

Anyone know if it is possible to opt out for Canva on iStock ?

« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2019, 05:09 »
+1
We had a large portfolio on Canva but our earnings on Canva have fallen significantly since the end of last year. We dont like being forced into the unlimited subscription and having our images from Istock on Canva. Weve deleted our images on Canva and are trying to find out more from Istock, although the current response from Istock is that we are not able to opt out of them sending the images to Canva.

« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2019, 08:53 »
+1
Has anybody else noticed their DL numbers randomly decrease in the new interface?

Last night when I made a final check of sales before calling it a day I had 100 dl's this morning I only have 98.

It happened once during the day yesterday when I seem to have lost a sale...

And I'm still having trouble reconciling my records with this month payment.

I may have just hit my frustration threshold with these clowns.

I noticed today. I have decrease with about 10 sales compared to 8 hours earlier (as numbers and as amount too). I'm traditionally positive about Canva, but now I'm already hesitant if all there is OK.

« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2019, 03:15 »
+5
Nice new sales page with thumbnails etc.  Now I can see more clearly how they have totally scr*wed me on sales.....


 

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