Author Topic: Looking for a good LCD screen (dell 2407WFP?)... (Read 11700 times)

bjorn · « **on:** August 30, 2007, 09:36 »

Hi,

I'm still using one of those old and dusty Trinitron CRT's.
Currently looking around for a good LCD.

Dell clames to have a good screen, with all kind of hyper words.
TrueColor & UltraSharp, TrueLife, etc...

Does any of you have one of those TrueColor & UltraSharp dell screens?
eg. dell 3007WFP, 2707WFP or 2407WFP?

In that case (or if you think your screen is great!

) can you have a look at the following image and see if you can see 2 times 8 bars sticking out of there background?
Haven't yet seen an LCD where you could see all 16 (so that's why i'm stuck to my CRT).

see: image.jpg

If you can see all the 16 bars (at the same time

) please let me/us know the brand & model (or a link).

Details about the Dell:
-Dell TrueColor Technology (92% color gamut) delivers rich and life-like colors.
-features a 92 percent colour gamut W-CCFL (Wide Cold-Cathode Fluorescent Lighting) backlight that delivers the latest in dynamic colour technology, making colours richer and enabling a more realistic gaming experience.

http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=nl&l=nl&s=dhs&cs=nldhs1&sku=104712

thanks.
PS: i know eizo has a few nice screens, but i can't afford that > euro 2000.

ErickN · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:24 »

I'm also looking for a good 24" LCD, so I can't answer your questions yet.

Though, you may be interested in the following article, which is a shootout of eight 24" LCD screens (including the Dell 2407WFP). The review is in french, but all the results are numbers/charts, so you should be able to get some useful information :

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/680-1/lcd-24-iiyama-b2403ws-samsung-245t.html

The Iiyama B2403WS seems to be a good deal overall and is way cheaper than the Dell (at least in France, where the Dell costs twice as much as in the US !).

Hope it helps !

PenelopeB · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:58 »

I work on a 26" screen iMac and I can see all eight bars twice...

but I'm in the same predicament at home. Which monitor (non-CRT) will give the best "photographic" processing results without special software for colour calibration. (or a lot of work - I'm too busy to futz around for too long) I have a MAC at home too.

Good Thread!

Stu99 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2007, 11:32 »

I recently bought (last month) Dells E228WFP 22 inch and am pretty pleased with it. I can see all the lower eight easily and seven of the top eight since the darkest top bar is just about visible (slight adjustment to the contrast helped). Also, its not going to burn a hole in your wallet!

alpy7 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:06 »

I'm using a Samsung 19 in Syncmaster 931BF. I can see all 16 bars and 12 frames. My first LCD screen. Calibrated with Spyder2express. About $250 nearly a year ago.

Stu99 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2007, 13:26 »

Quote from: alpy7 on August 30, 2007, 12:06

I'm using a Samsung 19 in Syncmaster 931BF. I can see all 16 bars and 12 frames. My first LCD screen. Calibrated with Spyder2express. About $250 nearly a year ago.

You mean 18 frames (incl. white), difficult to count without going cross-eyed ;-)

Freezingpictures · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2007, 16:30 »

I just bought a Samsung Sycmaster 223BW. 22 " widescreen. I am so happy with it. I can see 32 bars

..
Why can you see only 16?

Just joking, I can see everything perfectly clear

In such an improvement, I can even see now why Istock rejects some of my images

PenelopeB · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2007, 17:49 »

Wow... Thanks FP!

With the quality of your pictures, that monitor must be a good choice. Thanks for the input.

Regards
Penny

hatman12 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2007, 23:31 »

I also use a Samsung - SyncMaster 940N. I can see all the bars.

.shock · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2007, 03:20 »

Hi,

I'm lucky owner of Dell 24"... It is best... Yuri Arcus (you need to know who it is) using Dell 24"... hahhah

alpy7 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2007, 12:34 »

Yes 18 frames. Didn't look in that direction.

leaf · « **Reply #11 on:** August 31, 2007, 17:22 »

did you have a price limit?

have you checked out the lacie or enzo lcd`s? They are supposed to be the best....

bjorn · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2007, 02:02 »

On the samsung i read that the same model may have different panels. Some great, some bad. Problem is you don't know what you get...

Also see there is a lot of difference on contrast ratio. The screens you buy around the corner are roughly 1:500 or 1:800, but if you look closer some go up to 1:3000 (eg. FP's Samsung Sycmaster 223BW) and even to 1:10000. I guess that makes a lot of difference on the contrast (now lets hope its the same on every corner of the screen

From the other hand, i read that its not a standard and manufacturers can fiddle the numbers, also i saw great contrast on screens with a ration of “only” 1:400

End 2005 i read a review on the Eizo CG210, (its great) problem was it cost euro 2000+.
But when i check recently the models dropped to around euro 1000
The dell 2707WFP or 2407WFP are about the same price. Ok you get a bigger screen but I would choose for a 20” eizo above the 24” dell. As a techy i have trouble with nothing saying marketing phrases like TrueColour and UltraSharp, etc... On the Eizo site they talk about colour space, no. of colours, look up tables, calibration, etc, all makes a lot more sense to me. Also there are no Dell showrooms here too proof their technology.
(for those interested check www.Eizo.com)

Budget, hmmm $:-\$ , I want something that is at least as good as my crt/trinitron.
I guess I need to buy a new video card with some memory and to get DVI so that would be around euro200-300.
And then obv. a screen >=20”
Also read that the new HDTV standard is 1920x1080, so it would be nice if the screen can handle that. But very little can. And seen the reputation and speed on hdtv

, i better scratch it of my wish list.
It would be nice to buy something between 500 to 700, but if that can't beat the old trinitron i'll wait. It seems that technology goes up and prices down quickly.

Thanks for the tip Leaf,
The lacie's look good, price in same range as the Eizo, and just a bit above budget.
http://www.lacie.com/products/range.htm?id=10016
Read a good review on an old LaCie photon20 Vision II (euro 800) but that was 2 years ago and can't be bought anymore (or i can't find it).
Can't find 'enzo' guess you mean eizo.

For those with flash installed and fans of youtube (and bored

you may want to have a look at a “Gamut comparison, Eizo CG211 vs LaCie Electron” (i haven't seen in, run it to it on the way searching)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vej7Qfkjq5Y" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vej7Qfkjq5Y</a>

Perhaps save a bit more (sell more pictures, more months like august

)
If anybody runs into something nice or read a good review, let me know.

leaf · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:54 »

I bought a Lacie photon20vision last year which i have been really happy with.

I ended up finding a great deal on finn.no (you are in Norway aren´t you?). There was a guy selling a pretty nice computer along with the lacie monitor. The monitor had one dead pixel (which i never manage to find anyhow) which was great for me. A super monitor at a great price just because of one dead pixel was a perfect buy for me. i think i got it all for kr 5000

and yeah, i meant eizo

bjorn · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2007, 05:51 »

I'm one of the very few Dutch Bjorn's around

(Guess my parents just liked the name, and I'm happy with it) But i can understand your reasoning, with the posting time, euro and name...

hmm, so i better have a look around, for the Lacie photon20vision

fleitao · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2007, 09:45 »

Hi,

Just recently bought a lcd monitor and had exactly the same problem.... i had a 19'' old crt which was indeed very good but in the last few months had lost it's focus and it was worsening...

so after all research both for hardware and budget i ended up buying a Samsung 931BW for around 280 €. It's 19'' square screen equivalent, but they say it has 21''... because it's wide. This one has dynamic contrast of up to 2000:1 but i have never used it... i use it on a normal setup and i guess this way it has 700 or 800:1 not sure.

Nevertheless it's a fine monitor... my approval ratio has improved a lot once i managed to get it calibrated. It's a painful process (i guess it is with all LCD's but i did it only once.... I use Adobe Gamma Loader at startup to maitain the settings and i have never needed to calibrate it again.

Btw, i can see all of the bars... only slightly for the lower black and the higher white, but i guess that's what's intended.

Regards

Francisco Leitão

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