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Phadrea

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« on: April 15, 2013, 15:38 »
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Having just received my new Windows 7 computer to run Lightroom 4, I opted for the on board graphics (as advised by store) as they said photo editing is CPU dependent and the on board will do fine.

This is the motherboard

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H77V_LE/

Unfortunately when I connected my nice Dell 2209WA monitor up I could immediately tell the graphics were not as sharp, punchy as my current  Nvidea G Force 9500GT on my old machine. Quite the opposite in fact.  Have I made a boob by not getting a graphics card ?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2013, 15:40 by Herg »


« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 16:53 »
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I have no idea what "store" employee recommended to you to get a new computed using the on-board graphics for image editing but he (most likely he) should be fired.

As you can read here: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/gpu-opengl-support-photoshop-cs4.html

Photoshop does support GPU calculations and often GPU processing power out-performs CPU calculations.

I would add a Nvidea or ATI graphics card asap. Please go to a different store.

Preferably, ask on this forum what graphics card people use.

Phadrea

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 17:11 »
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To be fair the guy builds music PC,s  which I also need it for. I am using it for both but I will get a card ASAP if anyone can make a sensible suggestion without spending a lot.

Thanks.

« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 17:34 »
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To be fair the guy builds music PC,s  which I also need it for. I am using it for both but I will get a card ASAP if anyone can make a sensible suggestion without spending a lot.

Thanks.
I shouldn't have to point out the obvious, this guy does not care about the quality of the picture on the screen as long as the sound is ok.

I highly doubt that he is only using the on-board audio jacks as well on the music PCs that he builds...?

tab62

« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 17:52 »
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Did some research for you!

I would probably have recommended the 7850, if the software he uses supports CUDA, look at a midrange NVidia card, 550/560 range.

 

 


Phadrea

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 17:54 »
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Thanks.

It doesn't have a sound card. It's a PC you can pick which bits you want to add. There was an option for a better graphics card but he told me I shouldn't need it. No sound card fitted as I opted to use the one I already have fro pro recording.

tab62

« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 19:55 »
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That's funny, OB graphics for photo editing, really? ;D



« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013, 21:04 »
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OB graphics can be fine for photo editing...it's when you get into video and 3D that really need a better graphics card(real time 3d gaming also). Using OB graphic will limit Photoshop GPU accelerated tools, which do come in handy...still you can be perfectly fine using OB graphics for editing photos.

« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2013, 21:35 »
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OB graphics can be fine for photo editing ...
Yes, can be but if I get a new computer for image editing as a microstock photographer I don't see how it could hurt to add a $200 graphics card that can easily outperform the OB GPU.

The same thing like running 3DS Max 2008 on a Pentium 4 processor with 1GB of RAM. You can still get your renders done but if you want to be productive - time counts.

« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2013, 21:42 »
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OB graphics can be fine for photo editing ...
Yes, can be but if I get a new computer for image editing as a microstock photographer I don't see how it could hurt to add a $200 graphics card that can easily outperform the OB GPU.

The same thing like running 3DS Max 2008 on a Pentium 4 processor with 1GB of RAM. You can still get your renders done but if you want to be productive - time counts.

I'm not arguing that. I believe it's best to get the best specs you can afford.

« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2013, 22:20 »
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OB graphics can be fine for photo editing ...
Yes, can be but if I get a new computer for image editing as a microstock photographer I don't see how it could hurt to add a $200 graphics card that can easily outperform the OB GPU.

The same thing like running 3DS Max 2008 on a Pentium 4 processor with 1GB of RAM. You can still get your renders done but if you want to be productive - time counts.

I'm not arguing that. I believe it's best to get the best specs you can afford.
Absolutely!

Phadrea

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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2013, 01:53 »
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I will be happy with anything that will give me as good results as my Nvidea G Force 9500GT.

Any suggestions please?

Phadrea

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 14:46 »
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Having said that I tried the card on the new PC and Lightroom doesn't show my raw files very well as they seem to look on the older PC. I suppose upping the graphics card to match the higher spec PC would be the thing to do ?

RacePhoto

« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 20:57 »
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I will be happy with anything that will give me as good results as my Nvidea G Force 9500GT.

Any suggestions please?

If you liked that one, ake the card out of the old computer and put it into the new one? Just a suggestion...

Phadrea

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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2013, 02:40 »
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As I said above, I tried putting the card into my new PC but it still didn't look that good with Lightroom. Perhaps Raw shooter essentials displays RAW files better than Lightroom?

« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 02:50 »
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Both Nvidea and  ATI  do professional cards  (Quadro or FirePro) worth it if its in your budget. they don't do gaming so well but make a big differece to performance of software like photoshop and 3ds max. The drivers are optimized for professional software  and the cards are more stable. :)

« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 05:45 »
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As I said above, I tried putting the card into my new PC but it still didn't look that good with Lightroom. Perhaps Raw shooter essentials displays RAW files better than Lightroom?

Did you calibrate the monitor?

Phadrea

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 07:27 »
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Never calibrated it and no need as its a dell. They ship pretty much spot on. The colours are fine on it.

« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2013, 08:53 »
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Led screens only look sharp at one resolution I have two dell monitors one is 1920x1200 the other is 1920x1080 have you checked you are using the right resolution for your monitor.

RacePhoto

« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2013, 21:23 »
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Ooh another good one. Check for the native resolution of the monitor and set it for that.

So if you tried the old card, because you didn't like the new card, and it's still not suitable. Let me suggest. It's very likely It's Not The Graphics Cards!  :D

Yes I missed that you were using different software as well. You have changed multiple variables, so you'll have to isolate them one at a time, until you find out what is making the display something you don't like.

Sorry but all monitors need calibration, new or old, or one that was perfect last week. But for now, you need to find out why it's not the same as it was. And apparently not as good?



Led screens only look sharp at one resolution I have two dell monitors one is 1920x1200 the other is 1920x1080 have you checked you are using the right resolution for your monitor.

Phadrea

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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2013, 02:34 »
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Ooh another good one. Check for the native resolution of the monitor and set it for that.

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Do I do this in LR ?

« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2013, 03:45 »
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Ooh another good one. Check for the native resolution of the monitor and set it for that.


Do I do this in LR ?
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You don't. The bast way is to have a calibration module made by datacolor or one of their competitors

« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2013, 23:30 »
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Do I do this in LR ?

No, you'll right-click on your desktop and select "Screen Resolution."

You'll see the box shown in the image. Places that you'll need to make changes are marked with red text.
  • If you're running multiple monitors, make sure that you choose the monitor that is giving you trouble where it says "Display." If not, proceed to step 2.
  • Using the "Resolution" drop-down, select whatever resolution is recommended.
  • Click OK

Phadrea

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2013, 03:17 »
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Yes that is already correct.

« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2013, 03:30 »
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Which Dell monitor do you have?

Because if the Resolution is higher than 1080P (1920 x 1080), you need to use a Displayport cable, so that that resolution can be achieved.

I made that mistake before and wanted to connect my Dell U2711 with a HDMI cable. The resolution was messed up and when i wanted to check it, my PC wouldn't let me go over 1080P. First i thought my 50EUR Graphics Card wasn't good enough until someone told me that only the Display Port cable allows such high resolutions (in my case 2560 x 1440).

PS: For normal photo retouching, the graphic card only makes a small difference. Even when i deactivate my card in Photoshop. I cannot notice any performance differences. The worse results you are having with the new card, will mostprobably be a wrong setting somewhere.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 03:36 by Dantheman »


 

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