Author Topic: Looking for a monitor (Read 13257 times)

Allsa · « **on:** September 04, 2010, 12:19 »

My beautiful Samsung SyncMaster244T monitor is dying, and I've been shopping for something comparable. I searched on this forum, found a recent discussion about monitors; and learned that my monitor was discontinued. It's replacement, the Samsung SyncMaster245T was recommended instead, but it turns out that model has been discontinued, too. There are a gazillion monitors available, at all different prices, and I can't decide. Does anyone have any suggestions?

FD · « **Reply #1 on:** September 04, 2010, 12:21 »

Quote from: Allsa on September 04, 2010, 12:19

There are a gazillion monitors available, at all different prices, and I can't decide. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Patrick is the expert on this. I'l call him to the MSG.

sam100 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 04, 2010, 12:38 »

Quote from: Allsa on September 04, 2010, 12:19

My beautiful Samsung SyncMaster244T monitor is dying, and I've been shopping for something comparable. I searched on this forum, found a recent discussion about monitors; and learned that my monitor was discontinued. It's replacement, the Samsung SyncMaster245T was recommended instead, but it turns out that model has been discontinued, too. There are a gazillion monitors available, at all different prices, and I can't decide. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Exellent quality.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2475w.htm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/605961-REG/HP_Hewlett_Packard_KD911A8_ABA_LP2475w_24_LCD_Computer.html

Patrick.

ljupco · « **Reply #3 on:** September 04, 2010, 13:37 »

Do a search for Dell 2209WA. It's been discontinued but if you can find it, it's a great monitor for the price. Here's a link to a review: http://m.cnet.com.au/computers/339294389.htm?redir=1

leaf · « **Reply #4 on:** September 04, 2010, 13:58 »

are you wanting a 24" monitor again?

lisafx · « **Reply #5 on:** September 04, 2010, 16:36 »

Patrick, or anyone else, can you recommend a higher end LCD for comparison purposes?

My 244T is still going strong (knock wood) but I had been thinking I would spring for an Eizo or LaCie next time around. Would love your opinion on those...

sam100 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 04, 2010, 16:51 »

Quote from: lisafx on September 04, 2010, 16:36

Patrick, or anyone else, can you recommend a higher end LCD for comparison purposes?

My 244T is still going strong (knock wood) but I had been thinking I would spring for an Eizo or LaCie next time around. Would love your opinion on those...

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_pa241w.htm

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2711.htm

http://shop.colourconfidence.com/product.php?xProd=2673&xSec=10158

http://shop.colourconfidence.com/section.php?xSec=10313

Keep in mind you're also paying for the brand name...

Patrick.

lisafx · « **Reply #7 on:** September 04, 2010, 17:02 »

Thanks for posting the reviews Patrick. I will definitely read them over. TFT Central looks like a great site for reviewing any model I might be interested in.

I was also hoping for input from people who might have some personal experience of using them

sam100 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 04, 2010, 17:09 »

Quote from: lisafx on September 04, 2010, 17:02

Thanks for posting the reviews Patrick. I will definitely read them over. TFT Central looks like a great site for reviewing any model I might be interested in.

I was also hoping for input from people who might have some personal experience of using them

My philosophy is.. why spend 1000 or more dollars on a screen when you can have a screen with same specs for half the price.
When i did some research beforehand for a good monitor a came across http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_245t.htm , it was on my wish list.. however, no longer available in belgium, so i went for the HP LP2475w.

Patrick.

Allsa · « **Reply #9 on:** September 05, 2010, 17:25 »

Quote from: patrick1958 on September 04, 2010, 17:09

My philosophy is.. why spend 1000 or more dollars on a screen when you can have a screen with same specs for half the price.
When i did some research beforehand for a good monitor a came across http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_245t.htm , it was on my wish list.. however, no longer available in belgium, so i went for the HP LP2475w.

Patrick.

But you can't always go by specs only, for example, the number of megapixels in cameras. Two cameras can have the same number of megapixels, yet there can be a huge difference in image quality. Is it possible for two monitors to have the same specs, and still have a big difference in quality? If it's safe to go by specs only, maybe the HP is the best deal, but then again, I've heard bad things about HP's computers, so I have doubts.

donding · « **Reply #10 on:** September 05, 2010, 21:58 »

Quote from: Allsa on September 05, 2010, 17:25

Quote from: patrick1958 on September 04, 2010, 17:09

My philosophy is.. why spend 1000 or more dollars on a screen when you can have a screen with same specs for half the price.
When i did some research beforehand for a good monitor a came across http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_245t.htm , it was on my wish list.. however, no longer available in belgium, so i went for the HP LP2475w.

Patrick.

But you can't always go by specs only, for example, the number of megapixels in cameras. Two cameras can have the same number of megapixels, yet there can be a huge difference in image quality. Is it possible for two monitors to have the same specs, and still have a big difference in quality? If it's safe to go by specs only, maybe the HP is the best deal, but then again, I've heard bad things about HP's computers, so I have doubts.

I was searching for a new monitor recentlly. I ended up going with the HP LP2475w also and have not had any problems with it.

Graffoto · « **Reply #11 on:** September 06, 2010, 11:05 »

My trusty and dead-on accurate Samsung CRT monitor finally got to the point where I could no longer perform an accurate hardware color calibration

The blue gun was dying.

While I really, really was in love with the idea of a 30" monitor, the cost was too high to justify.
I finally decided on the NEC MultiSync LCD 2690WUXi(2).
The almost 26" screen is wonderful and I have a 20" Dell LCD set to the side to in profile mode for my Photoshop tools.
That leaves me the entire NEC screen for my image!

The NEC has a built in 12 bit color look up table (LUT) and this monitor's color gamut has 97.8% coverage of the Adobe RGB color space.
If you get the NEC Spectraview software with it; hardware color calibration is a total no brainer. It utilizes the built in LUT for calibration.
Just set up the puck, hit go and the monitor calibrates itself without any human intervention.
In addition, this monitor's color gamut has 97.8% coverage of the Adobe RGB color space.

I have used Eizo monitors and I find this NEC to be equal or better.

lisafx · « **Reply #12 on:** September 06, 2010, 14:06 »

Quote from: nosaya on September 06, 2010, 11:05

I have used Eizo monitors and I find this NEC to be equal or better.

Thanks a lot for the recommendation! Sounds really outstanding

Allsa · « **Reply #13 on:** September 06, 2010, 15:49 »

Quote from: nosaya on September 06, 2010, 11:05

My trusty and dead-on accurate Samsung CRT monitor finally got to the point where I could no longer perform an accurate hardware color calibration
The blue gun was dying.

While I really, really was in love with the idea of a 30" monitor, the cost was too high to justify.
I finally decided on the NEC MultiSync LCD 2690WUXi(2).
The almost 26" screen is wonderful and I have a 20" Dell LCD set to the side to in profile mode for my Photoshop tools.
That leaves me the entire NEC screen for my image!

The NEC has a built in 12 bit color look up table (LUT) and this monitor's color gamut has 97.8% coverage of the Adobe RGB color space.
If you get the NEC Spectraview software with it; hardware color calibration is a total no brainer. It utilizes the built in LUT for calibration.
Just set up the puck, hit go and the monitor calibrates itself without any human intervention.
In addition, this monitor's color gamut has 97.8% coverage of the Adobe RGB color space.

I have used Eizo monitors and I find this NEC to be equal or better.

Here's a link: http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=8899a96d-28dc-484f-a4de-14309a636738

It looks like a gorgeous monitor, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much. I think I paid around $800 for the Samsung 244T. Patrick's HP monitor sounds good, but I'm leery of HP, and the price sounds too good to be true. Decisions, decisions....

sam100 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 06, 2010, 17:22 »

Quote from: Allsa on September 06, 2010, 15:49

Quote from: nosaya on September 06, 2010, 11:05
My trusty and dead-on accurate Samsung CRT monitor finally got to the point where I could no longer perform an accurate hardware color calibration
The blue gun was dying.

While I really, really was in love with the idea of a 30" monitor, the cost was too high to justify.
I finally decided on the NEC MultiSync LCD 2690WUXi(2).
The almost 26" screen is wonderful and I have a 20" Dell LCD set to the side to in profile mode for my Photoshop tools.
That leaves me the entire NEC screen for my image!

The NEC has a built in 12 bit color look up table (LUT) and this monitor's color gamut has 97.8% coverage of the Adobe RGB color space.
If you get the NEC Spectraview software with it; hardware color calibration is a total no brainer. It utilizes the built in LUT for calibration.
Just set up the puck, hit go and the monitor calibrates itself without any human intervention.
In addition, this monitor's color gamut has 97.8% coverage of the Adobe RGB color space.

I have used Eizo monitors and I find this NEC to be equal or better.

Here's a link: http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=8899a96d-28dc-484f-a4de-14309a636738

It looks like a gorgeous monitor, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much. I think I paid around $800 for the Samsung 244T. Patrick's HP monitor sounds good, but I'm leery of HP, and the price sounds too good to be true. Decisions, decisions....

The heart of a monitor is its panel. In the HP the Samsung LTM220M3 is used.
A quick google revealed this panel is also used by : Eizo, Nec, Dell... with considerably higher prices for the end product than the HP...

.. basically you're paying for the Brand name on the monitor...

Patrick.

ann · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2010, 22:37 »

I'm very happy with my LaCie 324 (24"), which I got about a year ago, mainly due to Rinder's recommendation.

Graffoto · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2010, 23:59 »

The heart of a monitor is its panel. In the HP the Samsung LTM220M3 is used.
A quick google revealed this panel is also used by : Eizo, Nec, Dell... with considerably higher prices for the end product than the HP...

.. basically you're paying for the Brand name on the monitor...

Patrick.

While this is very true to a point, the firmware and software tweaks do make a difference in the way a panel performs.
Apple and Dell used to use the same panel and the Apple Cinema displays look quite different from the old Dells.

This is very similar to what auto makers do with their engine management systems.
The same exact engine in two different cars can have substantially more performance in one car due to changes made to the engine management chip the manufacturer puts in.

miskolin · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2010, 15:33 »

I too am in at the point of buying a new monitor. After some research i've found out Dell U2410 could be a relatively good solution to have IPS matrix and not pay $1000+.

However, I remembered that Yuri wrote that it could be "dangerous" to have too good colors and contrast (comparing to his suggestion-30' Apple Cinema Display): "Yes…there are monitors out there that have better colors and better contrast such as the DELL 24″. Unfortunately such monitors display your images too good and you end up, under-saturating, under contrasting and sometimes under exposing as well." (source).

I wonder what do you think of this? I'm afraid I'll see images properly exposed and saturated... but when one (i.e. buyer) would look those images from more "average" monitor the colors would look dull.

EDIT: Would monitor calibration with Huey (that I have) solve such problem or not?

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