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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2010, 19:05 »
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I'm curious if they are going to pay out to those who cancelled their accounts because they weren't paying out. Me for one.

lol I doubt it (perhaps if they still have some records, but if they have deleted your account then there is no way)


« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2010, 20:49 »
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25 cent subs?  No thanks.

rubyroo

« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2010, 21:05 »
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Do they still have Judge Ross (or whatever his name was) on there?   I always thought that was such a juvenile thing - to publicly humiliate contributors in that way just for the purposes of... what?  Amusement?   Horrible.  I never uploaded to Crestock because of that.   Given others' experiences there I'm glad I didn't.

Lisa - I hope you get good results with the new regime.  If you do - and if the judge is gone - I may consider uploading there also.  Thank you for offering to keep us up to date on progress  :)
« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 05:55 by rubyroo »

« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2010, 22:40 »
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I've always liked Crestock and I reached a payout every month but was not very happy with the way things were going there this past year.
I have 3 payments still pending for several months now and was really loosing faith in them. I even stop uploading because of long pending times but last night I decided to take a chance and upload about 90 of my most recent images and today they were all approved and all were accepted. I feel a change coming and I think it will be a positive one! :)

« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2010, 00:22 »
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Just curious why people actively campaign against support for ThinkStock who pays 25 cent subs, yet are happy to support Crestock for the same 25 cents. Am I missing something here?  ???

While I still have some of my images on Crestock (stopped uploading a long time ago) I will consider closing my account once I receive my long outstanding payment, unless of course they increase their commission. I do not support ThinkStock and neither will I Crestock for 25 cents.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 00:24 by Eco »

« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2010, 02:07 »
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^^^Crestock do also sell PPD at higher prices but it is hard to justify uploading there and not using thinkstock.  Most of my sales before I removed my portfolio were subs.  I would only be interested if they do what canstock have done and sell images at much higher prices.

Perhaps people trying to make more money would be better off looking at alamy, getty, corbis and the other macro sites?  Crestock was never in the big 6 and using another site that pays $0.25 for subs is just going to lose us money in the long term, as the bigger sites will have another excuse to cut our commissions.

« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2010, 02:26 »
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^^^Crestock do also sell PPD at higher prices.

Based on my sales at Crestock it is a subscription site only. The few PPD sales are so few and far apart that it is negligible. I know Crestock used the argument in the past that they pay 30% commission (based on PPD) and that PPD sales are increasing. That was of course just an attempt to divert attention from the low subscription commission that remained unchanged since their inception.

I think if Masterfile is really serious to make it in the Microstock market they will have to offer something more attractive to photographers than what is currently on offer on Crestock.

« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2010, 10:28 »
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I think if Masterfile is really serious to make it in the Microstock market they will have to offer something more attractive to photographers than what is currently on offer on Crestock.

The Crestock legacy is very negative with most contributers. I did find it amazing how many people kept submitting even though they rarely got paid. Crestock should have failed from the mass exodus.

lisafx

« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2010, 10:40 »
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Just curious why people actively campaign against support for ThinkStock who pays 25 cent subs, yet are happy to support Crestock for the same 25 cents. Am I missing something here?  ???
^^^Crestock do also sell PPD at higher prices

I assume that question was directed at me?  If so, then Sharpshot had it right.  The PPD offset the subscription prices.   Checking my stats from when I was last active on Crestock (Nov - Dec 09) my average $/download was .50.  Not stellar by any means, but acceptable.   If TS offered an average royalty of .50/dl I would already be there.  Heck, I would have been there if they had kept it at .30!

Obviously, I would be much happier if I could just upload to the top sites and maintain my income, but June was the third month in a row my income dropped significantly from the previous year.  

I am going to do what I have to in order to increase my income and put my kid through college.

As for TS, I am still holding out on not putting images there, largely to support Shutterstock, but considering SS hasn't given us any kind of raise or reward in over two years,  I may be forced to rethink that one too.   :(
« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 10:46 by lisafx »

« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2010, 13:24 »
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Speaking about TS. Just checked the homepage and they're now selling 5-image packs at 60$ per pack. Anyone know what royalties to they pay on those? 25c?  ;D

Sorry for hi-jacking.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2010, 14:21 »
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I can't answer for sharpshot but didn't think anyone was being singled out.  It is a legitimate question.  We seem to spin logic to suit our decisions rather than decide based on logic.  I think you could make a case for TS being an arm of iStock.  Using the same logic for Crestock having PPD sales, you could just as easily rationalize that TS is selling higher priced images on iStock, couldn't you?

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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2010, 15:11 »
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5-image packs at 60$ per pack. Anyone know what royalties to they pay on those? 25c?  ;D

Exactly. It's a credit pack without paying contributors a decent percent. What is that, 2%? 

This is what we all get for supporting subscription models. And here's yet another one.

« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2010, 17:22 »
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Based on my sales at Crestock it is a subscription site only. The few PPD sales are so few and far apart that it is negligible.
Same for me.

lisafx

« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2010, 19:18 »
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Speaking about TS. Just checked the homepage and they're now selling 5-image packs at 60$ per pack. Anyone know what royalties to they pay on those? 25c?  ;D


Here's the answer to that question from KKThompson's post here:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=175321&page=1

"Many of you have expressed concerns about the image pack offerings on Thinkstock. Royalty rates will be 20% of the equivalent single image price in US dollars. (Image pack price / # of images * 20%). "

If my math is right that should work out to $2.40.  Maybe if there are enough of those they could offset the .25 subs.

« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2010, 20:33 »
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hopefully when they have got things sorted out they will decide they need more contributors and increase commission rates as an incentive

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2010, 01:44 »
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When I try to FTP to Crestock, I get this error: "[R1] 426 Data connection closed, cannot write file - disk full?"

Is everybody already uploading there after the new owner announcement?

« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2010, 02:43 »
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^^^ It might be that it can't cope with the 3 people that are now uploading there :)  I am going to wait and see what has improved, if the old team are running it, are they going to make the same mistakes?  I want to see some changes, starting with a higher subs commission to give us an incentive to use them.  A subs opt out would also work for me.

« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2010, 04:45 »
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Speaking about TS. Just checked the homepage and they're now selling 5-image packs at 60$ per pack. Anyone know what royalties to they pay on those? 25c?  ;D


Here's the answer to that question from KKThompson's post here:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=175321&page=1

"Many of you have expressed concerns about the image pack offerings on Thinkstock. Royalty rates will be 20% of the equivalent single image price in US dollars. (Image pack price / # of images * 20%). "

If my math is right that should work out to $2.40.  Maybe if there are enough of those they could offset the .25 subs.


Thank you Lisa.

Hi-jack over.

« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2010, 05:32 »
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Well i had 22 images there waiting for keywording quite a few mounts now.
So i did it yesterday - very fast evaluation (1 day)....... 21 failed out of 22.
 :-\Well ....no admin change yet.

« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2010, 07:46 »
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I have never uploaded to Crestock.
Thanks to this forum I was kept well informed about the problems.
I probably never will.

- 0.25 cent sub
- 20 % commission
- very long inspection times
- very low acceptance rate
- payouts take many many months

Come to think of it, they might even be crappier than ThinkStock. Not only they pay 0.25 cent per sub, but they don't pay it at all!
Lol, that puts them in a league of their own.
Why not upload to Flickr instead? No rejections :)

Very successful contributors, like Lisa, have had a more positive experience with Crestock.
My portfolio though is nowhere near hers. It won't open the same doors. I'm much more likely to be rejected and / or never paid.

For now I'm staying away.

« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2010, 08:10 »
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Its time to reduce everthing lower than third....

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2010, 08:18 »
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- very low acceptance rate

and quite random too

hope that changes with new reviewers, as it bothers me more than $.25 subs: strict criteria -such as IS- are acceptable, random rejections not; and they should remove that ridiculous pop-up message asking are we sure to submit because they're the best

regarding late payments, the new management said they will pay on time, why shouldn't we believe them? we'll find out very soon after all.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 08:28 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

red

« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2010, 09:38 »
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For those established contributors (to any of the agencies) who decide not to upload images, there are thousands to replace them. If you produce a large volume of images or only a few, your images are a drop in the bucket as new photogs are joining every site daily. If there are reasons you won't contribute to any particular site they should be of your choosing and you should stick to your guns because it makes no difference on the other end - an agency won't come knocking at your door asking you to reconsider. As long as they can make money they set the rules. We can hope for change but there are too many factors out of our control. Bottom line, in the past 5 years technology has changed the photography market, but has also enlarged that market for those who take advantage of it. Many are doing just that.

« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2010, 10:09 »
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Absolutely right.
Keep in mind that agencies make money only as long as photographers keep on uploading.
And you're right. They do.
I firmly believe many, many would upload for even less than 0.25 cent.

Regarding Crestock, 0.25 cent payment is far from being their only problem.
There are other things, in my view just as important, that they need to fix first.
Hopefully in time they will, but right now I'm not good enough for them.
Good luck to the new management!

« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2010, 10:43 »
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I firmly believe many, many would upload for even less than 0.25 cent.


Given some think free is just fine I'd say you're right. And yes the idea that anything is better than nothing is prevalent. So why not 20 cents or 15 cents? After all I;m sure there will be just that many more downloads to make up for the loss of income???


 

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