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Agency Based Discussion => Crestock.com => Topic started by: Lizard on March 06, 2009, 09:16
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I don know maybe am just over frustrated but I think they do anything in their power not to pay me out , I'm interested about what you think about the situation
I know the have some moneybookers problems so I waited to reach 300$ and requested my money, I was thinking that It will be easier to them this way.
Somewhere in mid November I requested payout , no one responded to my e-mail for a while.
On 24. Nov I started a topic on their forum cause my e-mails were useless , and they told me I will be paid soon in a week or two.
They were making payouts , but as I was explained in a e-mail to people who had small payments (I was at 350$ at that time) , and asked me if its OK with me to receive a direct bank payment.
I didn't saw that e-mail at first (my fault) , but then again they told me to forget about that , after I asked them If they still need my bank account info for payment. They told me they should be able to pay me via moneybookers in a week or two.
Again nothing , so I wrote them another mail , and they didn't reply.
Then they wrote again In the forum that I will be paid in a week or two.
That circle has been closed few times but I wasn't paid , no one wanted my bank info to pay me out.
Again I found a forum post that we will be paid at the end or last week or this Monday or Tuesday , a you can guess what happened.
I wrote a forum post , but It seems they don't care cause nobody explained what happened this time, and people have mailed me about that so I know Im not the only one with this problem.
Even people with paypal were waiting for few months , as you can see in their forum.
So they don't reply to mails , they have stopped writing about it in their forum , and I'm waiting for my payment since mid November ( so almost 4 months) , I have more than 500$ that I need in their account and they are apparently paying small amounts to be able to pay to more people.
As they wrote me I know they can pay me with direct bank transfer , but when I offered them my bank info info they stopped communicating with me.
I tried with a PM to Josh here , with no no luck , I don't know if he got it but I didn't receive a answer.
So they are holding 500$ that I fairly earned , and the best they can offer Is a week or two payment promise and they always brake it.
I was trying to hold my horses and not to start a topic about that outside their forums for a while , but since they apparently don't care about that I was pushed over the edge.
I think its the basic thing about this business , to pay the contributors but some of us are not lucky enough.
Here is the original forum topic I started there so you can see I'm telling the truth : http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Getting-payed--4921.aspx
Any suggestions ?
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Lizard, I removed my photos before I had any sales so I shouldn't really comment but I can't keep my mouth shut. This shiz is so disturbing it makes me jumping mad. I also notice that Crestock has been quiet on this board for quite a while. Have they hit hard times? And if not, why can't they cut you a simple cheque? That must be a heck of a lot of 25 cent sales to get you to $500.
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I just got them to delete my account this morning..they answered very swiftly to that forum post but none of the other's where I ask and ask why and why....I consider myself lucky that I just joined about 4 days ago and after reading all the negative feedback and getting treated like a ghost on their site...I decided I didn't want them to make money off me and then go belly up and keep my earnings...I'd be very careful with these people if I were you.....I don't know if there is anyway to find out about their financial records....hopefully maybe someone on here has some law background and maybe can tell you what your next step is....
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I have more than 500$ that I need in their account and they are apparently paying small amounts to be able to pay to more people.
500$ is probably more than they have in their pockets.
They're beaten twice. First by the general economy contraction, then by Hungary being bankrupt and run by the IMF.
What I would do in your place is make a lot of bad publicity about them, posting it on any relevant forum or blog comment that you can. Google will pick it up. Post at their forum and email them about your intentions. The only "readon" they listen to is shouts ands threats.
The only thing they will succeed in is a honorable mention for the Darwin Awards (http://www.darwinawards.com/). :P
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I have more than 500$ that I need in their account and they are apparently paying small amounts to be able to pay to more people.
500$ is probably more than they have in their pockets.
I wonder what the deal is. I have had two or three $50 Paypal payouts and they always send me my money pretty quickly after I requested it. Im wondering if the problem is the amount of money you are requesting, not that it should be a problem.
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Thing is I know that they had problems uploading founds to their mooneybookers account but...
Payments were sent to people requested them way after I did
The offered direct bank transfer (In a e-mail around Christmas) when I was away from home so I missed it for few days , so I know they can pay me that way if they want.
When I wrote them back if they still need my bank info for that transfer , they change their minds and told me they will still pay me via moneybookers in a week or two.
After quite few "week or two" promises they wrote whats is their the problem at Crestock forum , and that they don't want to make any other promises.
After few weeks of silence they wrote they will send payments at the end of last week , or this Monday or Tuesday.
Again nothing, no explanations , and they do read their forum , but they just ignore my post as you can all see for yourself .
Its not about they are late with payment , If they told me that they will pay me maybe next week or in a year, ok I would understand they got problems and they were polite
and told me the truth , but its more about how they lie and fool me around with same trick for months and again I have to try my luck contacting them to
get a "week or two" answer again until next closing of the circle.
And before this , I had few payments too , and without any problems , till this time.
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It seems they hate "troublemakers" or "forumposters" (No bad feelings, I agree with you) since a lot of people donīt notice any problems with Crestock.
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If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
It looks to me like they are running out of excuses. I give them maximum six more months before they end up in microstock heaven with their brothers from Lucky Oliver and other failed attempts.
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I feel your pain Lizard. I am now waiting two months for my Moneybookers payment and I have also heard the "within a week or two" promise several times.
There is one thing that stock sites should not mess with, and that it is payment of contributors. Surely they must realize that this mess is seriously hurting their already cloudy reputation. Why they don't simply offer cheque payments as an alternative is beyond my understanding. This Moneybookers payment problems comes a long way and despite regular assurances this problem remains unresolved.
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Cheque payments doesnīt exist in Scandinavia. It would be like steping back to the stoneage for us.
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This is what you get when you play with non-big6 agencies. I dont understand why do people waste their time for such small agencies, if they stop uploading on small agencies, we would have more sales on big6. Uploading on small agencies is like shooting your foot.
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well in defense of crestock, I have gotten numerous payouts, the last one being requested and paid in January, and altough they are not the fastest ones to pay out, they are not the slowest either. That was with paypal however. But my point is, that it is obviously not about having the funds available to pay photographers, it is about getting moneybookers to work, or finding another way.
Here is the crestock thread if you want to follow along there
http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Getting-payed--4921.aspx?page=1
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I am with Crestock since March 2006. It is thus not a case of jumping on board every new site that came along.
Just looked at my e-mail archive and the problems with Moneybookers and Crestock go as far back as August 2007 when I had the very same problem than now. In more than a year and a half Crestock did not make one inch of progress to resolve the Moneybookers problem or put an alternative it its place.
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well in defense of crestock, I have gotten numerous payouts, the last one being requested and paid in January, and altough they are not the fastest ones to pay out, they are not the slowest either. That was with paypal however. But my point is, that it is obviously not about having the funds available to pay photographers, it is about getting moneybookers to work, or finding another way.
Here is the crestock thread if you want to follow along there
[url]http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Getting-payed--4921.aspx?page=1[/url]
I would agree with you but..
They offered me direct bank transfer , so they obviously can use that method , but when I wrote to give them my bank account info I never heard them back about that.
You can clearly see I ask them that in my post in that topic on 3. Feb , what should I do when they are not replaying to mails , write my bank account info on public forum ?
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Iīd call them and let hem explain if I were you. Borrow a friends phone so they canīt see itīs you ;)
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I'd have to defend them as well, they have always sent me payments when requested. It takes several days for them to process it but the do do it (or have done so far)
I think they are also upgrading their servers this sunday/monday and plan to be off line during that time
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Uploading on small agencies is like shooting your foot.
If a smaller agency pays more per download than the bigger ones, I prefer to shoot myself in the foot now and then. I've stopped uploading to Crestock a long time ago, due to their louse politics and low subs payments, but 1 Euro at Scanstock is still a lot more than 36 cents at SS, and Scanstock, like many of the smaller agencies, helps paying my bills.
If there's no competition from below, there's even less incentives for the large agencies to treat contributors with respect. Better keep them alive.
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In this business there is buyer, agency, author and MONEY. Agency takes MONEY from buyer, takes its cut and gives commission to author.
I don't beleive that moneybookers issue is possible to last so long due to that any legal business has all needed papers to deliver to moneybookers office to prove that it is legal business. In this case there is doubt that Crestock is de facto legal business...
So, if you think $500 is there, and they say they are busy with their servers - it stinks!
MONEY is the first step to do in any business relation... Changing priorities makes fraud and steal...
I am really sorry for you dude... If you have mortgage to pay from that money Crestock owes you - you'd probably loose your house...
Happily I gave them all my earnings when I deleted my account there... You may use all my money of about $1.5 or similar I've earned there for few months with about 20 images on-line...
BTW I heard that Josh is not with them anymore - Put your BANK TRANSFER INFO ON THEIR FORUM ;-)
After you get your money - dump them!
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When any company starts defaulting on their suppliers and taking longer to pay or not paying at all, just giving promises .... well, the answer is quite clear. They will most likely bite the dust and fold up. Those that do not collect will lose their money.
Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.
As for the "Big Six" ..... BigStock is not on the list this month but they pay within hours. Every time I request it for nearly 3 years now. I have faith they will be here after some of the big boys are buried in the dirt.
Time will tell.
Good luck!
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Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.
They are in Hungary. Yap, good luck.
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Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.
They are in Hungary. Yap, good luck.
What? No laws there? Stiff anyone anywhere and get away with it? I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.
Or should we take that as a lesson and deal with our own country's only?
Hmmmmmm.
-Larry
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wow, that's terrible news. i hope you get your money eventually.
i think now this is one reason why it's better to take the money in small amounts ASAP rather than wait till it's large. the problem is most sites will only pay out small amount via moneybrokers like paypal,etc. and for checks you have to wait till a big amount. and for many , that big amount may not even be attained ie. a lot of 25 cents to accumulate.
btw, is paypal safe to use ? has anyone had trouble with paypal?
i opted for pay with check. but now i am thinking maybe i should have chosen paypal or the other moneybroker, and get paid earlier.
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I've always used Paypal for all of my payouts and have never once had a problem. ;D
Snaprender
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I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.
How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.
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yes, I was paid out again this month.
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I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.
How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.
Nah... Not Moneybookers is a problem at all... Moneybookers is regulated under British FSA - they have strict rules how to make that service work and they are very serious about it. There are some papers about your identity and companies identities needed to be enclosed to them that you may even be able to use their services (unlike PayPal). What was the problem about papers is that US citizens used Moneybookers for ON-LINE gambling which is forbidden in the US and diplomacy worked. So, they now don't allow US citizens to even use Moneybookers.
If Crestock is located anywhere else in Europe or Asia or Africa, they may finish their papers within days if they are legal business. I have had two identity checks from Moneybookers due to sums accumulated which are not for joke and all papers I got from my bank I sent to them. In just few days issues vanished. Crestock obviously can't give them papers they need. Nevertheless, StockXpert is located in Hungary and I never had any payment problem with them and my regular monthly payouts!
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I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.
How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.
The same way you would find him in any other country , and you would still have the same problem.
I don't know whats the thing between you and Hungary , but Crestock seems to be from Norway , but that doesn't change a thing.
Anyway , their explanation about the problem with moneybookers is somewhere near strange , like they are unable to set a bank account and moneybookeres account in same persons name , I wonder how did
they menage to work that way all this time.
Then their board members are busy people so they have no time to open the account in their names and sign few papers , then when they finally find the time, then the bank managed to open their account with wrong name.
How can a bank open a account in wrong name ? Then they make a transfer from that wrong name bank account and the money is lost in space.
It is perfectly logic to me that moneybookers refuse transfers when the bank account is at one name and moneybookers account to another , and I think 5 months is more than enough to set those 2 accounts
cause we all had to do the same thing , and from all the people I know , no one had any major problems.
A person wrote on their forum that she is waiting for payout from 01.09.08 , I first contacted them in mid November , and there are more people like us there.
And if its only moneybookers problem , why did they offered me direct bank transfer , and when I accepted they don't reply to my mails , and are being quiet on their forums about that ?
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I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.
How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.
The same way you would find him in any other country , and you would still have the same problem.
I don't know whats the thing between you and Hungary , but Crestock seems to be from Norway , but that doesn't change a thing.
Anyway , their explanation about the problem with moneybookers is somewhere near strange , like they are unable to set a bank account and moneybookeres account in same persons name , I wonder how did
they menage to work that way all this time.
Then their board members are busy people so they have no time to open the account in their names and sign few papers , then when they finally find the time, then the bank managed to open their account with wrong name.
How can a bank open a account in wrong name ? Then they make a transfer from that wrong name bank account and the money is lost in space.
It is perfectly logic to me that moneybookers refuse transfers when the bank account is at one name and moneybookers account to another , and I think 5 months is more than enough to set those 2 accounts
cause we all had to do the same thing , and from all the people I know , no one had any major problems.
A person wrote on their forum that she is waiting for payout from 01.09.08 , I first contacted them in mid November , and there are more people like us there.
And if its only moneybookers problem , why did they offered me direct bank transfer , and when I accepted they don't reply to my mails , and are being quiet on their forums about that ?
Gordan, as I said... Put your bank transfer instructions to their forum. They will be thrilled to send you your money! After that - just dump that amateurs. BTW if they don't send you money, then I beleive some police business is to be done. We can put pressure on them via Stock Artist Alliance (SAA) - which I've already done and ring the bells everywhere! Sum is not for joke knowing that they earned at least $1500 on that your $500!
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Still waiting for my Moneybookers payment. It is now 2 half months. >:(
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For those who haven't found it, here was the latest update from Crestock
http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx
I agree, the waiting time is really unacceptable. But the point us paypal users are trying to make is that I really don't think crestock is trying to scam anyone. They are making payments with paypal, so they have the funds available, and have had ridiculous unnecessary problems with money bookers. Either way, I sure hope they get this cleared up ASAP, for their own sake if nothing else.
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For those who haven't found it, here was the latest update from Crestock
[url]http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx[/url]
I agree, the waiting time is really unacceptable. But the point us paypal users are trying to make is that I really don't think crestock is trying to scam anyone. They are making payments with paypal, so they have the funds available, and have had ridiculous unnecessary problems with money bookers. Either way, I sure hope they get this cleared up ASAP, for their own sake if nothing else.
Ridiculous you say? Papers asked about running business and bank details from financial institution which need to transfer your money to Crestocks contributors is quite clever move in order of stopping money lounering...
If they can't provide such papers they are running illegal business - which comes to money loudering and several other law breaks...
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For those who haven't found it, here was the latest update from Crestock
[url]http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx[/url]
I agree, the waiting time is really unacceptable. But the point us paypal users are trying to make is that I really don't think crestock is trying to scam anyone. They are making payments with paypal, so they have the funds available, and have had ridiculous unnecessary problems with money bookers. Either way, I sure hope they get this cleared up ASAP, for their own sake if nothing else.
Ridiculous you say? Papers asked about running business and bank details from financial institution which need to transfer your money to Crestocks contributors is quite clever move in order of stopping money lounering...
If they can't provide such papers they are running illegal business - which comes to money loudering and several other law breaks...
By ridiculous I was referring to getting the spelling wrong of the name of a board member on the money transfer. That is a ridiculous unnecessary problem that shouldn't of happened.
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The fact that it apparently took months to get someone to sign the papers because they're 'busy' is beyond ridiculous. So glad I closed my account there months ago..whew.
Snaprender
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yes, I was paid out again this month.
Me too. Just got mine via paypal this morning. It took 9 days from the time of request. While that is not lightening fast, it is certainly well within the range of acceptibility.
I feel bad for Lizard and if I were in his shoes I would be mad too. But I would hesitate to tar the whole company based on the experience of one contributor.
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yes, I was paid out again this month.
Me too. Just got mine via paypal this morning. It took 9 days from the time of request. While that is not lightening fast, it is certainly well within the range of acceptibility.
I feel bad for Lizard and if I were in his shoes I would be mad too. But I would hesitate to tar the whole company based on the experience of one contributor.
No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)
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I requested a payout with paypal yesterday and received it today. That is the quickest payout I have had with them. I am still alarmed seeing that other people are having problems. Doesn't make me want to start uploading again.
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No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)
Sorry, can you give me some examples of the "lordly" behavior? I have 4400 pics there and haven't had any problems with them.
Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?
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No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)
Sorry, can you give me some examples of the "lordly" behavior? I have 4400 pics there and haven't had any problems with them.
Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?
Yes there are , two people that dont use or dont want to use their forum contacted me on another site PP , apparently they are also waiting for months and their e-mails haven't been answered.
Someone that wrote at their forum is beating my waiting record for good , and waits from 01.09.08 ( so that would be almost 7 months if I'm right) , and few more people claim they are waiting for months so I'm apparently not a separate case.
There are even people who claim they requested paypal payment and have been waiting for months , but I don't know if they have been paid.
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Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?
Sorry Lisa, but this problem is not a new one and not restricted to one person only. I am now waiting 2 and a half months for my payment and this is not the first time. Read this:
http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx (http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx)
and you will see that there are many more with similar problems.
I actually like Crestock, but lately I must say that I am very disappointed in the way that they deal with problems like this. Communication is poor and the impression is created that they don't take this problem seriously. Not being able to pay contributors is VERY SERIOUS in my opinion, and the problem cannot be excused due to the fact that some contributors are actually been paid. It just seems logical that this should be dealt with as a matter of priority. Apparently not.
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I agree its serious. Thanks for posting further examples.
One person not being paid is an example of a screw up, but a bunch of people looks more like a pattern.
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Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.
They are in Hungary. Yap, good luck.
StockXpert is from Hungary
http://www.haap.hu/ (http://www.haap.hu/)
Crestock is from Norway
http://www.crestock.com/contact.aspx (http://www.crestock.com/contact.aspx)
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Crestock is from Norway
[url]http://www.crestock.com/contact.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.crestock.com/contact.aspx[/url])
I was going to check that, because unless something had changed, I remember they were in Norway.
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Yes, they are in Norway, that is obvious, far away from Hungary.
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StockXpert is from Hungary
Crestock is from Norway
Stupid me! >:(
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No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)
Sorry, can you give me some examples of the "lordly" behavior? I have 4400 pics there and haven't had any problems with them.
Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?
Lucky You! It seems they like your images or resolution of your camera... More than 12Mpix? I've got impression there they were rejecting on random way or someone works there who hates me... Which now seems to be the case on some other site... And I am not member on Crestock anymore due to that random rejections as well as due to reported problems from other ex members...
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^^ I thought this thread was about payout problems. Now we are talking about rejections?
Sure, I have gotten some rejections there I don't agree with, like on most other sites. My strategy is to just keep submitting the best work I can produce and hope they take more than they reject. :)
BTW, it is hard to figure their rejection standards. For example there are a bunch of images of a young couple on their home page that have a hideous blinding sun flare blocking large portions of the couples heads. Can't figure why those were accepted. Maybe it serves some artistic purpose I am missing?
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..It seems they like your images or resolution of your camera... More than 12Mpix?
I don't think MP's matter there. I never had problems with rejections and lots of my photos were 6mp or less.
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@lisafx and @sharpshot:
You guys obviously have higher stress barrier than me ;-)
If there is incosistency in approval of images or all images are rejected from batch (I usually have just few from same subject in same batch), then I really don't know what to think except someone went crazy. First thing I do is to again check all my images on 100% and if reasons for their rejections are there then I try to fix in rare cases. But, on Crestock I had just bunch of stupid reasons for rejections on images accepted on majority of sites and I gave up with them due to time I have clever way to spend... But, when they reject all batch of rasterized vector images then I really don't wish to work with such agency which was the last case made my decision final about them.
Nevertheless, I have reason to beleive that someone with power to reject hated me there...
I really know several persons who are reviewers and they work for one agency some period then work for other agency and some time after they are somewhere else... Also few of them don't like me at all because I gave them some sincere critics about their photography.
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I haven't been paid either.
So far, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, that there is a genuine problem.
What is certain is that if there were a problem with them receiving money (ie, their own cash flow), they would make it a top priority and fix it right away.
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Milinz, they just have a higher rejection rate there. It is the same for everyone, I have seen lots of different people complain about excessive rejections there. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't get many but I am not continuing to upload to a site that pays 20% to 40% lower subs commissions than the other sites I am with.
I don't know why anyone is uploading there when they are undercutting the other sites and giving them a good reason to keep subs commissions low. The difference might look like a few cents but I am sure this site is going to cost us all a lot of money, if others see we will tolerate such small commissions.
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Milinz, they just have a higher rejection rate there. It is the same for everyone, I have seen lots of different people complain about excessive rejections there. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't get many but I am not continuing to upload to a site that pays 20% to 40% lower subs commissions than the other sites I am with.
I don't know why anyone is uploading there when they are undercutting the other sites and giving them a good reason to keep subs commissions low. The difference might look like a few cents but I am sure this site is going to cost us all a lot of money, if others see we will tolerate such small commissions.
Not only that... And Crestock recipe is used by some others too - what comes to lower sales on big 6 and higher traffic on that ones... Seems for buyers that cheap images are priority... It is free market phyllosophy but in keynessian way of thinking... Mass producing will lover average prices because buyers usually tend to buy the cheapest they can!
Only who is responsible for this happening are contributors to such agencies with 'just a buck or two more' thinking on short term... But boomerang will come back and then all prices will be down as well as commissions to authors.
Instead that authors to think about how to optimize their sales on different agencies they in fact over-upload too wide on all agencies they can find and in that way they cut their earnings from agencies which could bring them decent money. BTW, by giving your images to cheap agencies or low commission agencies you are just boosting their chances to success through variety of images they offer to buyers.
This is already current happening... I can feel that some images I have are lost their potential on higher paying agencies due to similars showing up on lower paying agencies... Nevertheless, many pro authors are joining to such agencies by principle 'where all - there me too' which is wrong to do and very bad for future earnings to all of us... Only who will earn in future will be the cheapest and most visited agencies if this continue and authors don't understand what is really happening.
FOR ME it is quite STUPID to have some image listed for $10 on agencies where buyer can buy it by pressing BUY NOW button and listed for $1 on other agency where buyer can buy that image the same way - by clicking on BUY NOW button... THINK!
What is even more STUPID is to give away your earnigs percentage by accepting low commissions when joining to low commission and low traffic agencies!
Third thing which comes more and more to focus will be copyright infringements because any pirate will have opportunity to copy your cheap images and to earn on your work.
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I don't have any images on Crestock so the late payment issue doesn't apply to me, but I did want to put my two cents in...
Right now I upload to 5 different sites and at some point or another, ALL of them have had one problem or another. The key to building good relationships with contributors is communication.
If Crestock has problems with Moneybookers, they should most definitely make their payouts to contributors by some other method. If paying by check is available, as Lizard has said they offered to him, they should pay by check. To me, avoiding people's emails and not providing the truth about the problem or finding a resolution is just plain wrong. And to withhold payments to contributors, when they themselves have received their money, and putting people off for months and months is despicable.
I hope you get this resolved, Lizard, and get your money.
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has anyone ever tried closing their account with Crestock?
is there a link ?
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has anyone ever tried closing their account with Crestock? is there a link ?
Yes, No. You can't even delete individual images one by one. They have an anal-retentive complex. I finally managed to escape the infamous black hole by gravely insulting Judge Ross on the forum. ;D
On the other hand, see this (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/crestock.com+zymmetrical.com/?metric=uv).
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On the other hand, see this ([url]http://siteanalytics.compete.com/crestock.com+zymmetrical.com/?metric=uv[/url]).
i always find your comments interesting, FD but this one is over my head. can you explain it to us simpletons what they mean ;)
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i always find your comments interesting, FD but this one is over my head. can you explain it to us simpletons what they mean ;)
Well Keith from Zymmetrical catched it quite well :P
The pageviews of Crestock and Pixmac go up fast, as measured by compete.com, and probably by Alexa too, compared to Zymmetrical.
But if you look where many of those page views come from, you'll see they come from India, Bangladesh, Iran, Indonesia, and some other wonderful countries that are known to buy stock like hell. ;D
I hope you are aware of link circles, link farms, and pay-per-click sites, and I have this faint idea that a buyer in Manhattan will have less time (= money) than some clicking-zombie in a netcafe in the middle of nowhere, who will see his 1$/day income doubled by another 1$, clicking 1000 links. :o ::)
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Maybe its time for a quick update about this matter.
My Crestock agony is now lasting over 5 months , they claimed few weeks ago that their moneybookers problem is resolved and they will pay
first people who requested their payment first.
It seems they "forgot" and skipped me again like in december when they were paying just "small fees", now
they made few payments , but still not a trace of those 600$ that they own me now , and apparently they have no valid reason not to do it.
Lars is ignoring my forum posts (as you can see at their forum) , he is also not responding my e-mails to him ,and he just pretends like I don't exist.
I'm not an expert , but it seems to me that with the practice they are using , they are walking on that other side of the law.
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well it is good to hear they finally seem to have their money bookers account settled, but very frustrating you STILL have not been paid. Please keep us posted.
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To end the story, after few e-mails they told me I wasn't payed cause somehow their records showed that the payment was sent to me a month ago.
They finally did the transaction today and the money is on my account after 5 months.
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Congratulations Lizard!! So happy to hear this has finally been resolved for you.
What are your future plans for Crestock? Will you be uploading there again or have you quit them for good?
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Congratulations Lizard!! So happy to hear this has finally been resolved for you.
What are your future plans for Crestock? Will you be uploading there again or have you quit them for good?
Good question Lisa, I still dont know what to do. I think I'm will just quit uploading there for now , and I hope there will be no problems in future.
If it happens again I'm gone for sure.
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Good question Lisa, I still dont know what to do. I think I'm will just quit uploading there for now , and I hope there will be no problems in future.
If it happens again I'm gone for sure.
Sounds like a plan :)
If you continue getting sales on the port you already have there, you might want to try cashing out when you reach $50. I do and haven't had a problem getting paid (through paypal). Knock wood...
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I am counting the months to reach a pay-out, ask for it and finally closing my account with them. Ours were never a happy engagement.
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To end the story, after few e-mails they told me I wasn't payed cause somehow their records showed that the payment was sent to me a month ago.
They finally did the transaction today and the money is on my account after 5 months.
Glad the story finally has a happy ending and that you got your $$
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Apparently they haven't changed, or learned from your experience Lizard. They haven't paid me and it's been well over two weeks. Emails and forum posts go unanswered. And mine is just a paypal payment, not even moneybookers.
I swear, if anyone is thinking of joining there..DO NOT. My friend was uploading there and I told her about all this, and she stopped. I will NEVER recommend that site again, not even to my worst enemy. There is just no excuse for this. The reply I did get about a week ago, they said my payment was still processing and they acted like they didn't know which way was up. I asked when I could expect payment, and of course...crickets. No reply back from them.
I'm so ticked I could spit. *breaks into breathing exercise to cool off lol*