Author Topic: I think Crestock is refusing to pay me (Read 27336 times)

Lizard · « **on:** March 06, 2009, 09:16 »

I don know maybe am just over frustrated but I think they do anything in their power not to pay me out , I'm interested about what you think about the situation

I know the have some moneybookers problems so I waited to reach 300$ and requested my money, I was thinking that It will be easier to them this way.
Somewhere in mid November I requested payout , no one responded to my e-mail for a while.

On 24. Nov I started a topic on their forum cause my e-mails were useless , and they told me I will be paid soon in a week or two.

They were making payouts , but as I was explained in a e-mail to people who had small payments (I was at 350$ at that time) , and asked me if its OK with me to receive a direct bank payment.
I didn't saw that e-mail at first (my fault) , but then again they told me to forget about that , after I asked them If they still need my bank account info for payment. They told me they should be able to pay me via moneybookers in a week or two.

Again nothing , so I wrote them another mail , and they didn't reply.

Then they wrote again In the forum that I will be paid in a week or two.

That circle has been closed few times but I wasn't paid , no one wanted my bank info to pay me out.

Again I found a forum post that we will be paid at the end or last week or this Monday or Tuesday , a you can guess what happened.

I wrote a forum post , but It seems they don't care cause nobody explained what happened this time, and people have mailed me about that so I know Im not the only one with this problem.
Even people with paypal were waiting for few months , as you can see in their forum.

So they don't reply to mails , they have stopped writing about it in their forum , and I'm waiting for my payment since mid November ( so almost 4 months) , I have more than 500$ that I need in their account and they are apparently paying small amounts to be able to pay to more people.

As they wrote me I know they can pay me with direct bank transfer , but when I offered them my bank info info they stopped communicating with me.

I tried with a PM to Josh here , with no no luck , I don't know if he got it but I didn't receive a answer.

So they are holding 500$ that I fairly earned , and the best they can offer Is a week or two payment promise and they always brake it.

I was trying to hold my horses and not to start a topic about that outside their forums for a while , but since they apparently don't care about that I was pushed over the edge.

I think its the basic thing about this business , to pay the contributors but some of us are not lucky enough.

Here is the original forum topic I started there so you can see I'm telling the truth : http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Getting-payed--4921.aspx

Any suggestions ?

Pixart · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:38 »

Lizard, I removed my photos before I had any sales so I shouldn't really comment but I can't keep my mouth shut. This shiz is so disturbing it makes me jumping mad. I also notice that Crestock has been quiet on this board for quite a while. Have they hit hard times? And if not, why can't they cut you a simple cheque? That must be a heck of a lot of 25 cent sales to get you to $500.

donding · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2009, 12:45 »

I just got them to delete my account this morning..they answered very swiftly to that forum post but none of the other's where I ask and ask why and why....I consider myself lucky that I just joined about 4 days ago and after reading all the negative feedback and getting treated like a ghost on their site...I decided I didn't want them to make money off me and then go belly up and keep my earnings...I'd be very careful with these people if I were you.....I don't know if there is anyway to find out about their financial records....hopefully maybe someone on here has some law background and maybe can tell you what your next step is....

null · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2009, 13:10 »

Quote from: Lizard on March 06, 2009, 09:16

I have more than 500$ that I need in their account and they are apparently paying small amounts to be able to pay to more people.

500$ is probably more than they have in their pockets.

They're beaten twice. First by the general economy contraction, then by Hungary being bankrupt and run by the IMF.

What I would do in your place is make a lot of bad publicity about them, posting it on any relevant forum or blog comment that you can. Google will pick it up. Post at their forum and email them about your intentions. The only "readon" they listen to is shouts ands threats.

The only thing they will succeed in is a honorable mention for the Darwin Awards.

travismanley · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2009, 15:54 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 06, 2009, 13:10

Quote from: Lizard on March 06, 2009, 09:16
I have more than 500$ that I need in their account and they are apparently paying small amounts to be able to pay to more people.

500$ is probably more than they have in their pockets.

I wonder what the deal is. I have had two or three $50 Paypal payouts and they always send me my money pretty quickly after I requested it. Im wondering if the problem is the amount of money you are requesting, not that it should be a problem.

Lizard · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2009, 17:19 »

Thing is I know that they had problems uploading founds to their mooneybookers account but...

Payments were sent to people requested them way after I did

The offered direct bank transfer (In a e-mail around Christmas) when I was away from home so I missed it for few days , so I know they can pay me that way if they want.
When I wrote them back if they still need my bank info for that transfer , they change their minds and told me they will still pay me via moneybookers in a week or two.

After quite few "week or two" promises they wrote whats is their the problem at Crestock forum , and that they don't want to make any other promises.

After few weeks of silence they wrote they will send payments at the end of last week , or this Monday or Tuesday.

Again nothing, no explanations , and they do read their forum , but they just ignore my post as you can all see for yourself .

Its not about they are late with payment , If they told me that they will pay me maybe next week or in a year, ok I would understand they got problems and they were polite
and told me the truth , but its more about how they lie and fool me around with same trick for months and again I have to try my luck contacting them to
get a "week or two" answer again until next closing of the circle.

And before this , I had few payments too , and without any problems , till this time.

Magnum · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2009, 18:35 »

It seems they hate "troublemakers" or "forumposters" (No bad feelings, I agree with you) since a lot of people don´t notice any problems with Crestock.

epixx · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2009, 20:17 »

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

It looks to me like they are running out of excuses. I give them maximum six more months before they end up in microstock heaven with their brothers from Lucky Oliver and other failed attempts.

Eco · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:03 »

I feel your pain Lizard. I am now waiting two months for my Moneybookers payment and I have also heard the "within a week or two" promise several times.

There is one thing that stock sites should not mess with, and that it is payment of contributors. Surely they must realize that this mess is seriously hurting their already cloudy reputation. Why they don't simply offer cheque payments as an alternative is beyond my understanding. This Moneybookers payment problems comes a long way and despite regular assurances this problem remains unresolved.

Magnum · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:49 »

Cheque payments doesn´t exist in Scandinavia. It would be like steping back to the stoneage for us.

Peter · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:54 »

This is what you get when you play with non-big6 agencies. I dont understand why do people waste their time for such small agencies, if they stop uploading on small agencies, we would have more sales on big6. Uploading on small agencies is like shooting your foot.

leaf · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2009, 05:42 »

well in defense of crestock, I have gotten numerous payouts, the last one being requested and paid in January, and altough they are not the fastest ones to pay out, they are not the slowest either. That was with paypal however. But my point is, that it is obviously not about having the funds available to pay photographers, it is about getting moneybookers to work, or finding another way.

Here is the crestock thread if you want to follow along there
http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Getting-payed--4921.aspx?page=1

Eco · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2009, 06:00 »

I am with Crestock since March 2006. It is thus not a case of jumping on board every new site that came along.

Just looked at my e-mail archive and the problems with Moneybookers and Crestock go as far back as August 2007 when I had the very same problem than now. In more than a year and a half Crestock did not make one inch of progress to resolve the Moneybookers problem or put an alternative it its place.

Lizard · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2009, 10:07 »

Quote from: leaf on March 07, 2009, 05:42

well in defense of crestock, I have gotten numerous payouts, the last one being requested and paid in January, and altough they are not the fastest ones to pay out, they are not the slowest either. That was with paypal however. But my point is, that it is obviously not about having the funds available to pay photographers, it is about getting moneybookers to work, or finding another way.

Here is the crestock thread if you want to follow along there
http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Getting-payed--4921.aspx?page=1

I would agree with you but..

They offered me direct bank transfer , so they obviously can use that method , but when I wrote to give them my bank account info I never heard them back about that.

You can clearly see I ask them that in my post in that topic on 3. Feb , what should I do when they are not replaying to mails , write my bank account info on public forum ?

Magnum · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2009, 15:37 »

I´d call them and let hem explain if I were you. Borrow a friends phone so they can´t see it´s you

microstockinsider · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2009, 19:25 »

I'd have to defend them as well, they have always sent me payments when requested. It takes several days for them to process it but the do do it (or have done so far)

I think they are also upgrading their servers this sunday/monday and plan to be off line during that time

epixx · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2009, 03:44 »

Quote from: Peter on March 07, 2009, 04:54

Uploading on small agencies is like shooting your foot.

If a smaller agency pays more per download than the bigger ones, I prefer to shoot myself in the foot now and then. I've stopped uploading to Crestock a long time ago, due to their louse politics and low subs payments, but 1 Euro at Scanstock is still a lot more than 36 cents at SS, and Scanstock, like many of the smaller agencies, helps paying my bills.

If there's no competition from below, there's even less incentives for the large agencies to treat contributors with respect. Better keep them alive.

Milinz · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2009, 17:28 »

In this business there is buyer, agency, author and MONEY. Agency takes MONEY from buyer, takes its cut and gives commission to author.

I don't beleive that moneybookers issue is possible to last so long due to that any legal business has all needed papers to deliver to moneybookers office to prove that it is legal business. In this case there is doubt that Crestock is de facto legal business...

So, if you think $500 is there, and they say they are busy with their servers - it stinks!
MONEY is the first step to do in any business relation... Changing priorities makes fraud and steal...

I am really sorry for you dude... If you have mortgage to pay from that money Crestock owes you - you'd probably loose your house...

Happily I gave them all my earnings when I deleted my account there... You may use all my money of about $1.5 or similar I've earned there for few months with about 20 images on-line...

BTW I heard that Josh is not with them anymore - Put your BANK TRANSFER INFO ON THEIR FORUM ;-)

After you get your money - dump them!

Lcjtripod · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2009, 18:57 »

When any company starts defaulting on their suppliers and taking longer to pay or not paying at all, just giving promises .... well, the answer is quite clear. They will most likely bite the dust and fold up. Those that do not collect will lose their money.

Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.

As for the "Big Six" ..... BigStock is not on the list this month but they pay within hours. Every time I request it for nearly 3 years now. I have faith they will be here after some of the big boys are buried in the dirt.

Time will tell.

Good luck!

null · « **Reply #19 on:** March 26, 2009, 19:08 »

Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 18:57

Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.

They are in Hungary. Yap, good luck.

Lcjtripod · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2009, 20:26 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 26, 2009, 19:08

Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 18:57
Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.

They are in Hungary. Yap, good luck.

What? No laws there? Stiff anyone anywhere and get away with it? I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.
Or should we take that as a lesson and deal with our own country's only?

Hmmmmmm.

-Larry

tan510jomast · « **Reply #21 on:** March 26, 2009, 20:31 »

wow, that's terrible news. i hope you get your money eventually.
i think now this is one reason why it's better to take the money in small amounts ASAP rather than wait till it's large. the problem is most sites will only pay out small amount via moneybrokers like paypal,etc. and for checks you have to wait till a big amount. and for many , that big amount may not even be attained ie. a lot of 25 cents to accumulate.
btw, is paypal safe to use ? has anyone had trouble with paypal?
i opted for pay with check. but now i am thinking maybe i should have chosen paypal or the other moneybroker, and get paid earlier.

snaprender · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2009, 23:08 »

I've always used Paypal for all of my payouts and have never once had a problem.

Snaprender

null · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2009, 23:32 »

Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 20:26

I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.

How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.

leaf · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2009, 02:13 »

yes, I was paid out again this month.

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