I came very close to throwing in the towel at Crestock, but my sales are getting better too. I think im going to stick it out now that I hit my first payout and am close to the second

They reject 27/28 of my last batch today! All of them are good selling pictures on other agenices...
 
I am sad,frustrated, mad etc...

Who cares about sales rise when they dont pay the money, and are having problems with payments that are months long?

Ok, I kindly ask you to stick to the facts. Crestock is restricted by Moneybookers, temporarily and for whatever reason I don't know. Crestock support has, I imagine, contacted you once about this, informing of the situation and apologizing for any inconvenience. If you have not been contacted by support regarding this, then its a serious matter for discussion that i will need to pick up with my colleagues. Otherwise, please, do not do Crestock the disservice of stating that we do not pay money. Payouts are generally the bottom line for photographers, we respect this and make payouts as quickly as humanly possible. Unfortunately, in some instances, this is reliant on a third party, Moneybookers, and we can only do our best to cooperate with them and resolve the situation.

Meanwhile, you are more than welcome to provide support with paypal or IBAN details for immediate payment.

Josh ive had my payment done once through IBAN and i received HALF of my payment. The rest has been deducted from the sum by, i believe, various banks that money got through. Paypal isnt an option also, i cant withdraw money in bank in my country. The payment has taken so long, ive got response once after several mails and after posting here. And that was 15 days ago. No news since. Im sorry but i dont want to wait another month for something. Please inform us did You collect all the documents that You needed? Were they sent to Moneybookers? Can we as contributors and moneybookers users do anything to speed up this process?
The news about moneybookers installment are months old, how log does it take to solve the problem? Other agencies that had issues solved it in 10-15 day max.
 Best regards from Slobodan

You are very kind Josh, but something is wrong with Crestock! They do not pay and do not answer!
I requested my money by paypal and waiting month and a half!
Please tell me Crestock is not going down!
vanias.

I started uploading there due to Yuri's high praise.... I can unfortunately say that sales are very weak so I stopped uploading there in August. I'll start uploading there again IF things pick up and they change their subs commissions.

Can't stand this site.. They are low paying/sales and high rejections (super high rejections)

I uploaded 10 shots (7 accepted) somewhere early this year as a test and made a whopping 0.75 dollar on it by 3 sales. Sorry, but selling shots for 0.25 that sell for 10 or 50x that price on other sites is insulting. It's a waste of time, so I canceled my account today.

I have 2 sales and 21 photos in portfolio...
For me,that is very good result for such small portfolio (for now) and for such young agency...

They had the right idea but took the the "our turd don't stink" approach and put off alot of photogs.

Sorry you get this impression, actually we frequently make mistakes. I hope I and the rest of the team will always take a minute to admit a mistake and remain humble.

hmmm, I do well with Crestock - every month gets higher and higher.  Acceptance rate at about 85%.  Quite steady site for me.

Congrats! Are you exclusive there?

I've got deleted all my images there due I requested it after they rejected 5 of my latest uploaded photos with not standing reasons at all.

It is quite crazy to upload there as they ask 'superb' quality images with 'perfect' composition and exceptional 'concept' to get payed undervalued 20-30 cents occasionaly or as it was case with my 31 accepted of 100 uploaded images (I got them all on other agencies accepted) 5 downloads for all time membership which lasted several months... While I have thousands of downloads at other agencies... And really nice payloads of money!

They are simple not worthy any effort until they realize that what they have and what they ask must be payed more to contributors... They are spending contributors money on advertising! What a Rippers!

By uploading there any contributor who is not exclusive kills his own earnings!

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND TO ANY SERIOUS STOCK IMAGING ARTIST TO AVOID CRESTOCK!
They are just one more BLACK HOLE in stock imaging industry!

I've had 203 sales total averaging 48.5 cents per sale. This month the average is 68 cents per download. Considering how easy it is to submit, I still think its worth it.

It seems you are one of the ones who has images by their taste ;-)

My images obviously don't fit into that scheme. So, I wouldn't bother anymore with them. I'd rather upload such content to FOTOSEARCH, ALAMY or JUPITERIMAGES (now GETTY) because there that image worths 20% of minimum $50 up to many more! So, it seems you loose loooooots of money...

Oh I forgot... My Monthly average RPI on all agencies is near $2.00... So, under their prices it would be quite a bad bargain to work with Crestock.

November has by far been our best month ever, which is good news for a traditionally slow period.

Strange. I had 15 downloads in October but ZERO downloads in November.
Looks like first month without single download since February.

Quote from: Milinz on November 27, 2008, 12:03

By uploading there any contributor who is not exclusive kills his own earnings!

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND TO ANY SERIOUS STOCK IMAGING ARTIST TO AVOID CRESTOCK!
They are just one more BLACK HOLE in stock imaging industry!

Wow, the capitals seems to indicate a slight chip on the shoulder. Best of luck anyway.

The capitals are showing that I am screaming... The point is I really do not mind to anyone on Crestock personally. It is just policy which is quite 'nose in the colouds'. That policy makes me personally insulted and away from Crestock.
Point one to stop uploading on Crestock is that you are too picky and you give vectors on subscription with no possible opt-out from that. I have more than 500 on-line right now, about 150 vectorizing for december and at least 1500 on schedule for next year ;-) Also, I have changed my workflow and documents for model shootings - so there will be quite a lot RF and RM model photos I will produce begining from january next year... So, you've lost contributor with quite a lot of 'potential'.
Other point is that you have quite strange and low cuts for contributors even if sales are via credits. That cuts are amongst lowest in microstock industry.
The point is your policy is what needs to change. Also, I beleive you can read my email to Crestock where I stated my reasons for requesting deletion of my files.

When Your management become aware that you must fight for contributors with more than 500 images on-line then there will be some chance for competition with other agencies. This way - you have just slow growth and better chances to drawn.

That is mostly all of that how I see this business relations termination.

I've read in a few places now about crestock payments not being paid out. further to what josh_crestock wrote above i'd like to chip in and confirm that I have been paid by crestock (via paypal) 2 weeks ago, and in a timely manner.

Yes they seem insist on a very high standard of work, but personally I don't see it as my place to complain about that. in fact ignoring crestock, at the rate my images have been accepted on the big 4 recently i've started to wonder if my photography is getting worse! all I can see is standards going up and up across the board.

Nah... They just want contributors who shoot on Hassy... And have no other way than to give them exclusivity on that images for just cents ;-)

The point is that iStock is still quite hard for me... I have just one of 3 vectors accepted in my first 3 batch for five attempts! Nevertheless, I am uploading some photos and videos there but quite slow due to that I don't have time to bother with their upload system ;-) The main point was that Shutterstock accepted 5 of 5, Dreamstime accepted 4 of 5, iStock accepted 3 of 5 and Crestock rejected all 5 of my photos!

So - That was quite a reason to figure out that Crestock with so low traffic doesn't need my images and iStock with No.1 traffic needs my images... Figure out yourself what is the difference with income with same images on Crestock and iStock so well as on other agencies and you'll know what I am talking about!

Hi Creo,

 I am not on your site but I would like to know more. People often use percentages to explain their growth. From contributors to stock analysts. What I would like to know is what in dollars is a 200-300% growth for your company in a month. That number would be far more helpful for me to decide weather to upload to you or not. I see this a lot from contributors on this site as well. " My sales are up 200% this month " or " MBE " these terms don't really help us understand what kind of financial growth we are talking about without digits attached. If a contributor went from $10 to $30 dollars then what they say is true about 300% growth for that month but it is still just an extra $20. It is just that without actual numbers percentages don't offer much information.

Thanks,
AVAVA

Also, by giving rights to Crestock to sell them you are killing your own earnings on other agencies as well as you get just peannuts for that 300 images on Crestock.

My average $ per download is higher at Crestock than Shutterstock. I'm not taking Crestocks side here, I think .25c for subscription download is absolute garbage, just providing what I have experienced at Crestock.

Quote from: Milinz on November 28, 2008, 14:25

Also, by giving rights to Crestock to sell them you are killing your own earnings on other agencies as well as you get just peannuts for that 300 images on Crestock.

My average $ per download is higher at Crestock than Shutterstock. I'm not taking Crestocks side here, I think .25c for subscription download is absolute garbage, just providing what I have experienced at Crestock.

No problem - You may have better earnings there... But with 300 images for just 3 months I've managed to enter into 33 cents /dl category on SS. I've doubled my monthly earnings there in just one month... Also they are agency where quality matters. You just can't upload anything there and if they don't reject your image for LCV - you are on nice ride. I had few ELs and also some videos sold there. I also had idea to do similar with Crestock, but their stupid rejections changed my mind. Still my best earnings comes from SS with uploaded over 1000 images and videos. Next to them is Dreamstime and rest follows... I hardly wait to enter on iStock vector category and then it will be quite a loads of downloads due to that I have more than 500 vectors to submit there as well as I am in production of 150 for december and planning 1500 for next year ;-)

Hi Milinz,

 Thanks for the post. I must have missed it. Good straight feedback that is very helpful. If you ever want to know any of my numbers just drop me a PM.

Best,
AVAVA