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Milinz

« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2008, 05:36 »
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By uploading there any contributor who is not exclusive kills his own earnings!

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND TO ANY SERIOUS STOCK IMAGING ARTIST TO AVOID CRESTOCK!
They are just one more BLACK HOLE in stock imaging industry!

Wow, the capitals seems to indicate a slight chip on the shoulder. Best of luck anyway.


The capitals are showing that I am screaming... The point is I really do not mind to anyone on Crestock personally. It is just policy which is quite 'nose in the colouds'. That policy makes me personally insulted and away from Crestock.
Point one to stop uploading on Crestock is that you are too picky and you give vectors on subscription with no possible opt-out from that. I have more than 500 on-line right now, about 150 vectorizing for december and at least 1500 on schedule for next year ;-) Also, I have changed my workflow and documents for model shootings - so there will be quite a lot RF and RM model photos I will produce begining from january next year... So, you've lost contributor with quite a lot of 'potential'.
Other point is that you have quite strange and low cuts for contributors even if sales are via credits. That cuts are amongst lowest in microstock industry.
The point is your policy is what needs to change. Also, I beleive you can read my email to Crestock where I stated my reasons for requesting deletion of my files.

When Your management become aware that you must fight for contributors with more than 500 images on-line then there will be some chance for competition with other agencies. This way - you have just slow growth and better chances to drawn.

That is mostly all of that how I see this business relations termination.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 06:04 by Milinz »


« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2008, 06:41 »
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I've read in a few places now about crestock payments not being paid out. further to what josh_crestock wrote above i'd like to chip in and confirm that I have been paid by crestock (via paypal) 2 weeks ago, and in a timely manner.

Yes they seem insist on a very high standard of work, but personally I don't see it as my place to complain about that. in fact ignoring crestock, at the rate my images have been accepted on the big 4 recently i've started to wonder if my photography is getting worse! all I can see is standards going up and up across the board.

Milinz

« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2008, 11:44 »
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I've read in a few places now about crestock payments not being paid out. further to what josh_crestock wrote above i'd like to chip in and confirm that I have been paid by crestock (via paypal) 2 weeks ago, and in a timely manner.

Yes they seem insist on a very high standard of work, but personally I don't see it as my place to complain about that. in fact ignoring crestock, at the rate my images have been accepted on the big 4 recently i've started to wonder if my photography is getting worse! all I can see is standards going up and up across the board.

Nah... They just want contributors who shoot on Hassy... And have no other way than to give them exclusivity on that images for just cents ;-)

The point is that iStock is still quite hard for me... I have just one of 3 vectors accepted in my first 3 batch for five attempts! Nevertheless, I am uploading some photos and videos there but quite slow due to that I don't have time to bother with their upload system ;-) The main point was that Shutterstock accepted 5 of 5, Dreamstime accepted 4 of 5, iStock accepted 3 of 5 and Crestock rejected all 5 of my photos!

So - That was quite a reason to figure out that Crestock with so low traffic doesn't need my images and iStock with No.1 traffic needs my images... Figure out yourself what is the difference with income with same images on Crestock and iStock so well as on other agencies and you'll know what I am talking about!

« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2008, 12:44 »
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Well, I made experiment and submitted 20 pictures to Crestock - my tops sellers at IS, SS and DT (no people).

17 were rejected mostly due to (1) composition or (2) not meeting creative standards of Crestock.

I searched Crestock for pictures similar to my "bad composition" ones. I may be biased of course, but I wasn't really impressed by what I found - very similar or the same composition, not any better than mine ...

OK, enough of Crestock, I need to feed SS.

AVAVA

« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2008, 13:31 »
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Hi Creo,

 I am not on your site but I would like to know more. People often use percentages to explain their growth. From contributors to stock analysts. What I would like to know is what in dollars is a 200-300% growth for your company in a month. That number would be far more helpful for me to decide weather to upload to you or not. I see this a lot from contributors on this site as well. " My sales are up 200% this month " or " MBE " these terms don't really help us understand what kind of financial growth we are talking about without digits attached. If a contributor went from $10 to $30 dollars then what they say is true about 300% growth for that month but it is still just an extra $20. It is just that without actual numbers percentages don't offer much information.

Thanks,
AVAVA

Milinz

« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2008, 14:25 »
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Hi Creo,

 I am not on your site but I would like to know more. People often use percentages to explain their growth. From contributors to stock analysts. What I would like to know is what in dollars is a 200-300% growth for your company in a month. That number would be far more helpful for me to decide weather to upload to you or not. I see this a lot from contributors on this site as well. " My sales are up 200% this month " or " MBE " these terms don't really help us understand what kind of financial growth we are talking about without digits attached. If a contributor went from $10 to $30 dollars then what they say is true about 300% growth for that month but it is still just an extra $20. It is just that without actual numbers percentages don't offer much information.

Thanks,
AVAVA

I beleive it looks like this: If you have 300 images accepted there, your monthly figures can be approximately $2-$15. So 300% means that you earn $5-$45 on 300 images accepted... Which could be as high as maximum of 20%-30% on Shutterstock or iStock or Dreamstime with 300 images ;-)
Also, by giving rights to Crestock to sell them you are killing your own earnings on other agencies as well as you get just peannuts for that 300 images on Crestock.

Also, I have a friend who has over 820 images there and he still did not made his first payot... They managed to sell just 68 his images since he joined there! With such number of images he is making constant trip money on any other of bigger agencies indeed.

« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2008, 15:06 »
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Also, by giving rights to Crestock to sell them you are killing your own earnings on other agencies as well as you get just peannuts for that 300 images on Crestock.

My average $ per download is higher at Crestock than Shutterstock. I'm not taking Crestocks side here, I think .25c for subscription download is absolute garbage, just providing what I have experienced at Crestock.

« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2008, 15:23 »
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I do not understand why but on Crestock, my sales have always been very slow. I rarely make anything. I make sales on alot of other stock sites. I am not sure that I will upload anymore to their site. It takes too much time to upload to sites that seem not to ever sell your images.

Milinz

« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2008, 15:25 »
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Also, by giving rights to Crestock to sell them you are killing your own earnings on other agencies as well as you get just peannuts for that 300 images on Crestock.

My average $ per download is higher at Crestock than Shutterstock. I'm not taking Crestocks side here, I think .25c for subscription download is absolute garbage, just providing what I have experienced at Crestock.

No problem - You may have better earnings there... But with 300 images for just 3 months I've managed to enter into 33 cents /dl category on SS. I've doubled my monthly earnings there in just one month... Also they are agency where quality matters. You just can't upload anything there and if they don't reject your image for LCV - you are on nice ride. I had few ELs and also some videos sold there. I also had idea to do similar with Crestock, but their stupid rejections changed my mind. Still my best earnings comes from SS with uploaded over 1000 images and videos. Next to them is Dreamstime and rest follows... I hardly wait to enter on iStock vector category and then it will be quite a loads of downloads due to that I have more than 500 vectors to submit there as well as I am in production of 150 for december and planning 1500 for next year ;-)

« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2008, 17:26 »
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Today I found a message from Crestock in my mailbox. I sold one vector for 2$. What a surprise

AVAVA

« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2008, 17:32 »
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Hi Milinz,

 Thanks for the post. I must have missed it. Good straight feedback that is very helpful. If you ever want to know any of my numbers just drop me a PM.

Best,
AVAVA


 

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