Author Topic: What is your acceptance rate at Crestock ? (Read 23226 times)

leszek · « **on:** February 18, 2008, 08:12 »

It appears to me that they take their statement about "highest quality requirements" a bit too seriously. What is your experience ?

gbcimages · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2008, 10:26 »

I'm sorry,it's over 20%. It's not really worth it right now for me to upload too

sharpshot · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2008, 10:43 »

802 accepted, 52 rejected.

digiology · « **Reply #3 on:** February 18, 2008, 11:29 »

I don't have an account there. That judge guy scares me!

Lukasphoto · « **Reply #4 on:** February 18, 2008, 11:33 »

I joined there last month and only got a small portfolio (86).
About 7% rejection but funny enough all but 2 of the rejects were accepted at IS and SS.

sharply_done · « **Reply #5 on:** February 18, 2008, 12:10 »

My acceptance rate at Crestock is a little low - 1205 accepted, 252 rejected = 83%.

Most of my rejections come from Crestock's early months, when they were far too picky about the images they wanted. Although things are much better now in that respect, my impression is that they have a bit of a rogue reviewer problem - there is one reviewer who seems to be more critical than his colleagues. I'm not really concerned about it, though, as Crestock's ability to attract buyers seems to be waning.

Smithore · « **Reply #6 on:** February 18, 2008, 12:18 »

Good acceptance ratio with sometimes very very stupid rejection reasons like "out of focus" with perfectly focused images and over ridiculous reasons i don't remember, I'm going to stop uploading here.

Danicek · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2008, 14:25 »

Crestock is by far the most strict agency for me. I'm not long in this business and have small portfolios. Yet the frequency of rejects at CS in combination with their sales when compared with much higher acceptance rate (for me) at sites like SS, IS, StockXpert with their much higher sales, well, I stopped uploading few weeks ago. May resume again...

leszek · « **Reply #8 on:** February 18, 2008, 16:16 »

Thanks. This is mostly what I expected. I am sending Crestock an E-mail to delete all my accepted images and terminate my account. There is only so much I am willing to do for $0.25 a (unfrequent) download.

josh_crestock · « **Reply #9 on:** February 18, 2008, 16:25 »

Quote from: sharply_done on February 18, 2008, 12:10

Although things are much better now in that respect, my impression is that they have a bit of a rogue reviewer problem - there is one reviewer who seems to be more critical than his colleagues.

We keep a pretty close eye on inspections, and are grateful to have some good inspectors who are also active and experienced photographers from within the microstock community. We don't have a 'rogue' inspector problem, or at least I have serious doubts without first seeing some specifics. Please don't hesitate to contact me or anybody on the Crestock team if you have doubts about some inspections you've received. We don't at all mind having a second look at things, so long as you can be as specific as possible with your request. Sorry, 're-evaluate my entire portfolio'-type requests will receive polite denials.

We don't mind admitting we made a mistake or judging something incorrectly. But, please be aware, the inspection team do follow a relatively strict set of creative and technical guidelines that may differ from other agencies. Buyers are attracted by the quality selection of work they find at Crestock, this generates a growing, loyal customer base.

gbcimages · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2008, 16:56 »

I can't see editing photos that other sites have accepted. Just so you can get the quality that you want on your site and pay contributers very little for their hard work.

anonymous · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2008, 17:04 »

Quote from: gbcimages on February 18, 2008, 16:56

I can't see editing photos that other sites have accepted. Just so you can get the quality that you want on your site and pay contributers very little for their hard work.

bingo

Pixart · « **Reply #12 on:** February 18, 2008, 17:12 »

Quote from: leszek on February 18, 2008, 16:16

Thanks. This is mostly what I expected. I am sending Crestock an E-mail to delete all my accepted images and terminate my account. There is only so much I am willing to do for $0.25 a (unfrequent) download.

LOL... I quit as soon as I joined. My first 4 weren't good enough to be offered at full size, and my next 4 were rejected. If I want to feel bad about my skills I just send them to Istock (who incidently SELLS LIKE CRAZY the 52% that they accept).

I do in a weird way like that they will offer a small file if it's sorta okay instead of just rejecting it.

gbcimages · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2008, 17:50 »

I just closed my account with them.

madelaide · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2008, 18:10 »

I'm almost sure that when I joined CS the subscription did not exist. I would hesitate to join a site with this. Rejection was high, but I could understand this as a selective portfolio to cater buyers with little time to browse hundreds of images. It was upsetting, but I could live with that.

Then subs sales started to happen and most sales came from subs (at least to me - my average earnings are 42c/dld - but I believe it was a general trend). I guess the credit prices versus subscription prices favour the latter a lot - buyers pay 21 to 25c an image (if they upload all the images they're entitled). As I said elsewhere, I dislike more the fact that a buyer pays so little for high res and high quality images than a lower photographer commission (as the mere 20% in IS).

Back to the original question, acceptance has been much higher in my past submissions, but I stopped uploading as I don't see a satisfatory future between me and CS. It's kind of hard for a stubborn person like me to give up, but then I haven't had any sale in January and February. Ok, my portfolio there is of only 70 images.

I haven't however reached the point of closing my account there. I guess the optimist in me always expect a positive change.

Regards,
Adelaide

GeoPappas · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2008, 18:13 »

I will never understand why people will work so hard for a 20% commission, especially from a site that has such low sales.

sharply_done · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2008, 19:53 »

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leszek · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2008, 21:06 »

Well - I am neither arguing nor criticising the inspectors at Crestock. While some of my pics may have some issues - I am simply saying that it is not worth for me to spend hours of my time on a picture which has 80% chance of rejection at Crestock - and sells very well elsewhere.

Quality has a purpose, and should be commensurate with remuneration.

This image, for instance, has been rejected for "Artifacts, compression flaws".

http://www.crestock.com/rejected-image.aspx?id=629729

I doubt very much there are any of the above in the image - unless we count little "ghosts" around the isolated object which show up when someone tries to select white background color. They are created when the image is converted from TIFF to JPEG - and not a thing can be done. That's what threshold setting of 1 (or clipping path) are for.

Of course - if they are considered unacceptable, I have no problem with that. I am not setting the requirements. I am just saying that these requirements are too much for me - individual mileages, as usual, may vary.

ChasingMoments · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2008, 20:47 »

I am new to crestock and following all crestock threads with interest... not to bash the site, but i am really curious about their photographer attrition rates... and how soon people drop out after they join...

... as for me... i'm still looking around... but huh, polite people, them, at crestock. Nice, simple: "Not stock material". Polite too...[me, being sacrastic]...

...some paraphrasing of their rejection reasons might do them some good, by the way, it would actually take them places. A simple "Sorry, at the time this file is not suitable... for whatever reason for addition to crestock library" would reeaally be much more palatable to photogs than a curt, blatant, impolite-ish remark... really. Being more personal, more polite, more respectful of whatever is being submitted might be appreciated....

gbcimages · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2008, 22:30 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on February 18, 2008, 18:13

I will never understand why people will work so hard for a 20% commission, especially from a site that has such low sales.

Right! that's why I won't

Kngkyle · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2008, 22:57 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on February 18, 2008, 18:13

I will never understand why people will work so hard for a 20% commission, especially from a site that has such low sales.

Uploading to Crestock is really no work at all. If you use IPTC you really don't have to do anything other than upload and press select all > submit. By far the easiest site to submit to in my opinion. Well worth it, despite the relatively low sales. (Still better than LO, CanStockPhoto, FP, and SV for me)

I haven't had a problem with their reviewing, all seems fair to me so far. Other sites reject a lot more of mine than they do.

Velvia · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2008, 23:19 »

So far, i can`t complain with Crestock. I had more sales there than LO, SV etc...
I find their reviewers are quite fair but knowledgeable at the same time.

I think that Crestock in general is keen to creative images rather than your typical stock shots.
I think they will do well simply because they know what they are looking for in a picture. They seem to know the business of stock pretty well

CCK · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2008, 04:57 »

I don't have any problems with the reviewers at CS. I have more than 80% accepted compared to 70% at iS. I have on a number of occasions received an e-mail from a reviewer complementing a submission, and I really appreciate that. Sales are very slow, commissions low, but I like the people there, so I will stay.

sharpshot · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2008, 05:17 »

It took me a long time to work this out but sites that pay a low commision and spend lots of money on advertising are better than those that pay us a high commission but don't attract buyers.

I am sticking with crestock, I liked the 70% commission with FP but they don't seem to advertise. 70% of their sales is very little.

I get 30% commission for pay per download sales with CS and $0.25 for subscription sales. They have made a lot more $ for me than FP and several other sites that have a better commission. This is probably because they spend money on big adverts in design magazines.

The Corey · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2008, 15:32 »

All to often the argument comes up that volume equal money and the quality of experience has no bearing on revenue.

For example I work for a macro stock photography company that has a current image collection of around 10,000 images. We send our images to around 50 different macro site distributors around the world and one particular distributor only took 1500 of our images, or 15%. These images are highly produce, professionally shot, color balanced, and retouched. We couldn’t understand why and even flew out to visit with their editors (I guess we all deal with rejection) . They also take more of a cut then a majority of our other distributors.

After months of sales data they are killing most of the competition in generated revenue. Why? Creative know when they go to this site they are going to find exceptional quality and don’t have to wade through tons of images to find the exceptional ones.

This is in no defense of Cresstock as I haven’t dealt with them directly and don’t know their business model, but in general less can sometime mean more money in the end.

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Author Topic: What is your acceptance rate at Crestock ? (Read 23226 times)

leszek

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digiology

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Smithore

Danicek

leszek

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gbcimages

anonymous

Pixart

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madelaide

GeoPappas

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leszek

ChasingMoments

gbcimages

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Velvia

CCK

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