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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2009, 13:56 »
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I doubt IStock has been able to trademark an Italian noun.

What?  ??? I thought it was Irish!  :D

Nope, Italian.
And as for trademarking, Apple did a good job with a common English noun.  >:(

Yes, my understanding is that trademark is applied by industry. For instance there may be an Apple Publishing Company, or Apple Motors, but there cannot be another Apple in the computer industry.

The criticism here does not stem from the fact that he's decided to create a new collection. It is in response to the fact that the name he chose for it seems like a cheap shot at a competitor, and imho, is not a name that demands respect, but instead seems a little sad.

It's great that he is trying to create a successful site where contributors are better rewarded. A name like this only makes it seem like he's more focused on his competition than his vetta.


« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2009, 14:37 »
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I googled for .5 seconds and found all sorts of products and enterprises named "Vetta".  It's the Italian equivalent of Acme.

I think John Griffin can call this "Betta than Vetta" if he wants, although I think just "Betta" would get the idea across and would be funnier.    "Betta" would also play nicely off the image of the beautiful tropical fish by that name.



I like BETTA

it would serve a dual purpose , albeit subtle  ;D

or a play with another italian icon MASERATI
 
combine VETTA with GETTY
and get somethin like

BETTAYETTI  , as in better yet ! :D


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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2009, 14:40 »
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I googled for .5 seconds and found all sorts of products and enterprises named "Vetta".  It's the Italian equivalent of Acme.

I think John Griffin can call this "Betta than Vetta" if he wants, although I think just "Betta" would get the idea across and would be funnier.    "Betta" would also play nicely off the image of the beautiful tropical fish by that name.



I like BETTA

it would serve a dual purpose , albeit subtle  ;D

or a play with another italian icon MASERATI
 
combine VETTA with GETTY
and get somethin like

BETTAYETTI  , as in better yet ! :D



Yetti makes me think of Big Foot.  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2009, 14:43 »
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Sean's right.
Knowing John, he's probably playing . As in "better than cheddar". Of which there is also a cheese called Vetta, if I am not mistaken. Italian too. Correct me if I am mistaken.

It's funny , though ! We need funny nowadays , the way things have been going lately with all the Big 6 stealthily expanding into the "lubrication" enterprise
( [email protected], so funny)  ;D
« Last Edit: August 04, 2009, 14:45 by 50%egg »

« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2009, 14:51 »
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I googled for .5 seconds and found all sorts of products and enterprises named "Vetta".  It's the Italian equivalent of Acme.

I think John Griffin can call this "Betta than Vetta" if he wants, although I think just "Betta" would get the idea across and would be funnier.    "Betta" would also play nicely off the image of the beautiful tropical fish by that name.



I like BETTA

it would serve a dual purpose , albeit subtle  ;D

or a play with another italian icon MASERATI
 
combine VETTA with GETTY
and get somethin like

BETTAYETTI  , as in better yet ! :D



Yetti makes me think of Big Foot.  ;D

... ROFL whatalife,
so much the BETTA,
John could use his (bigfoot) to stomp on the competition  ;D

« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2009, 14:56 »
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and more,
the logo could be a giant footprint.

implying, Cut Bettayetti stomps on sub zero prices ...
 8) :-*

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« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2009, 15:08 »
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whatver John's ulterior motive is, if it is to dig at those Big 6 who have been giving us their incredible curve balls, I wholeheartedly say, "Go for it Cutcaster!
If you truly wish contributors get better commissions, then, I hope you succeed . out of getting the buyers to think they should be paying as much on good images as they themselves expect their work to be highly valued".

i , for one, cannot believe that ALL BUYERS are scavengers, and will only pay us peanuts.  ::)
it's the blooming greed of the Big 6 of micro stock that have made the buyers think like scavengers, and that we, the contributors do not deserve to be paid anything more than a few pennies for our work.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2009, 15:11 by obladihell »

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« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2009, 15:43 »
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whatver John's ulterior motive is, if it is to dig at those Big 6 who have been giving us their incredible curve balls, I wholeheartedly say, "Go for it Cutcaster!
If you truly wish contributors get better commissions, then, I hope you succeed . out of getting the buyers to think they should be paying as much on good images as they themselves expect their work to be highly valued".

i , for one, cannot believe that ALL BUYERS are scavengers, and will only pay us peanuts.  ::)
it's the blooming greed of the Big 6 of micro stock that have made the buyers think like scavengers, and that we, the contributors do not deserve to be paid anything more than a few pennies for our work.


I think you give the buyers more credit than they deserve.

Buyers are no different from children. They will take whatever daddy and mommy allow them .  In fact, some, if not many, of these buyers were living on daddy's credit card through Art School, and are used to getting everything for nothing. They don't know what value is.

If the sites can sell for more, don't you think they would?




« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2009, 15:51 »
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The best of the best included in the BTV photo and vector collection were hand-picked by our highly-caffeinated reviewers and industry professionals

It was already fun reading when I got the email from John, and this thread made it even better... it made made evening and I'll have a happy sleep today :)

combine VETTA with GETTY
and get somethin like

BETTAYETTI  , as in better yet ! :D


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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2009, 15:54 »
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whatver John's ulterior motive is, if it is to dig at those Big 6 who have been giving us their incredible curve balls, I wholeheartedly say, "Go for it Cutcaster!
If you truly wish contributors get better commissions, then, I hope you succeed . out of getting the buyers to think they should be paying as much on good images as they themselves expect their work to be highly valued".

i , for one, cannot believe that ALL BUYERS are scavengers, and will only pay us peanuts.  ::)
it's the blooming greed of the Big 6 of micro stock that have made the buyers think like scavengers, and that we, the contributors do not deserve to be paid anything more than a few pennies for our work.


I think you give the buyers more credit than they deserve.

Buyers are no different from children. They will take whatever daddy and mommy allow them .  In fact, some, if not many, of these buyers were living on daddy's credit card through Art School, and are used to getting everything for nothing. They don't know what value is.

If the sites can sell for more, don't you think they would?





u mayb just be right . re. the mentality of the generation.  but, not all buyers belong of that generation of "mooches". many are of the generation that are used to traditional stock photos,
and of an era where a photographer is paid well.

the buyers have been weaned to get as much for next to nothing.
look at the ads on the main page of 4 out of 5 of every micro stock site.
what dya see as headlines?
u don't see , "we charge more because our images are the best!"
you only see, "now you can get even more for less!"

every blooming site is competing with the other to drop the sub prices to lower than the next guy.
until the agenda of the project is not "better commission for our contributors" but "we hear what our buyers are saying ".

there are enough wannabees to replace anyone who suddenly wakes up to think that getting a few pennies for their images is ridiculous . the sites know that, and the world is very full of the next horde of wannabees with cheaper DSLRs.   even if the whole of North Am quits on micro, the whole of China can replace them 10 folds, and the sites will not even blink or miss any one of you who quits
and pull out your portfolio.

« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2009, 16:27 »
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You mention photographes and illustrations but the main thing I see are only photos.
Also I see a lot of photographes of one person....

« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2009, 17:42 »
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Old MacDonald had a farm....

I don't know about trademark issues and lawyers.  I just see the strategy.  How could you get more attention than going right at the big guy?  Go for it, John.  Win or ... GO DOWN IN A BLAZE OF GLORY.   8)

eee aye ee aye oh

Amen WP !

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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2009, 17:45 »
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I agree with you abladihell...WTH do these guys want? it seems to be a dam if you do, and dam if you don't situation with them, common give someone else a chance to do something to compete with the big guys, or at the very least give it a good try, I guess some of the people on this forum have nothing better to do with their time than acting like frustrated housewives, criticizing, snitching and gossipping on everyone else's ideas...but if the ideas came from the LUBE MASTERS then is all fine...uuuh! I don't like the name!, uuuh! I'll tell on you!...Give me a F.....g break...and let John do what he needs to do to make his site a better place for the rest of us...then you guys can stay with your LUBE MASTERS AND TAKE ALL OF THEIR CRAP!

[email protected] 4 president !
YAY... oops sorry, I mean... Hurrah Cutcaster!


JOHN GRIFFIN a.k.a. Terminator !   8)

RT


« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2009, 18:03 »
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JOHN GRIFFIN a.k.a. Terminator Bryan Zmijewski

« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2009, 18:50 »
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This is a bad idea (in my opinion), but I wish John all the success if he thinks it is the right way to go.

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« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2009, 19:42 »
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This is a bad idea (in my opinion), but I wish John all the success if he thinks it is the right way to go.

John's a daydreamer, like John Lennon.
How can he expects to be a giant killer , lol.

But then again, if I remember my giant killer story, David used a slingshot to kill Goliath.

Here John Griffin, pick a pebble  ;)

« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2009, 21:04 »
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"Irish for mountaintop"?  Cmon, that reads like an Onion news story...

I have to agree with Sean on this. Seriously... What the heck?! There are reasons shutterstock didnt call itself "better than istock". Its got to be a joke... It's pretty funny though I give them that.

« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2009, 21:28 »
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JOHN GRIFFIN a.k.a. Terminator Bryan Zmijewski
LOL
Lot of noise and no sales.
Immature guys. They should first try to give us 10% what we make with IS and then start joking. Do you remember the day when Crestock bought Corbis (or Getty) ?

« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2009, 01:15 »
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Good grief that graphic banner on the page looks like it was done by a high schooler in love with Edwardian Script.

Caz

« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2009, 06:42 »
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The "Betta than Vetta" name makes the site sound unproffessional, cheap and childish. I'm embarrased for you.

« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2009, 07:27 »
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Any comment like this "Betta than Vetta" , about competition, or similar acts, seems like some desperate move... :'(

« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2009, 07:52 »
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The "Betta than Vetta" name makes the site sound unproffessional, cheap and childish. I'm embarrased for you.

I was embarrased for him too, but didn't want to say not to break his heart  :D Come on John, get rid of this. These people here; are not all wrong. Good feedback for you this is!

Personally, I am not the kind of guy who will bash you whatever you do. If this was a good move I would certainly applaud it. It really is a bad move in my opinion. You can't emulate others; find a better name, and as someone mentioned, the banner does look like a kid did it.

« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2009, 08:50 »
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I know that John will give us some words of encouragement and seriousness...

zzz

« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2009, 09:32 »
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Has anyone acutally tried to compare the two collections? Betta? No way! The supposed betta photos are no match for Vetta.

« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2009, 16:26 »
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Vetta is only available to exclusives at IS, and if history is correct, only select exclusives ever get their work accepted. Betta is open to all CC contributors who submit outstanding work. I will admit I'm not fond of the name but at least CC has some variety and is not making up a payment system so confusing that you can't figure out what your royalty is supposed to be.



 

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