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Agency Based Discussion => Cutcaster => Topic started by: traveler1116 on October 29, 2008, 19:13

Title: Extended Licensing?
Post by: traveler1116 on October 29, 2008, 19:13
I just signed up for cutcaster and should be bringing about 1000 files over there this week,  my first batch of about 200 files is already up but I opted, by default, for no extended licensing.  I couldn't find any info in the FAQ or TOS, except for a statement that said something like extended licenses could be used by buyers to limit whether these files were sold elsewhere.  I am theoretically fine with that as long as the price is right but I would like to read the extended license agreement before allowing all of my files to be sold as such.  Where can I find more info on this?  Thanks
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: Tim Markley on October 29, 2008, 19:27
Don't worry you have to have sales in order to worry about extended licences.
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: eppic on October 29, 2008, 21:32
I'm on CC as well and I didn't opt in for E.L.'s either for two reasons:
1. No specifics on what exactly the EL can be used for compared to regular RF
2. No options for a corresponding higher price for an E.L.
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: johngriffin on October 30, 2008, 11:05
Yeah we haven't introduced the extended licensing or the terms yet but after being at Picturehouse yesterday and talking to a bunch of publishers we are going to be moving forward quickly on it. The terms will be similar to what other sites are doing but I want to get your feedback on the best way to offer it that is fair to everyone.

I have some questions that maybe you guys can help me with.

What is a fair price for an extended license?

Which sites have the best contracts for an extended license that you think is fair for both the seller and buyer?

What are the drawbacks of ELs?

Thanks for any help and answers.  I am all ears.

@tsmarkley ha

@traveler1116  Welcome aboard.  Let me know if I can help out with any other questions.  I am here to help.
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: michaeldb on October 31, 2008, 00:57
iStock has a clear, informative system to explain the ELs you get there. It's one of the features of their site which is really well done IMO. The only problem I have had with their system is that I don't get enough ELs ;)

But when I get one I like how they tell me exactly what rights were sold, how much they charged, and how much I got paid. I just look at the list my ELs and click on each and a window opens which gives me the information.

It's been so long since I got an EL at SS that I don't remember how it works. Since they started ODs I have seen several people say that ELs have dried up. Maybe it's coincidence.
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: borg on October 31, 2008, 04:36
 I think the best solution for growth is exactly EL, for pricing model like has Cutcaster...
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: Microbius on October 31, 2008, 04:47
Don't worry you have to have sales in order to worry about extended licences.
lol, too true. On a day when I felt particularly generous I uploaded to CC, zym and yay. All doing very badly for me but cc is the one with zero sales. The other two at least got me one each!
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: johngriffin on October 31, 2008, 12:59
@Microbius. Let's have a look at your portfolio and I can see how you are keywording and what types of images you have.  I would love to help you keyword your images so they fit better into our search engine and give you some info on how people are searching that may be able to help you. 

Also please remember that we are only 80 or 85k images so we are the youngest in the bunch and still having sales.  I am here to help so let me know what I can do.

Anyone else have good info on how to offer ELs on the site?  thanks
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: Microbius on November 03, 2008, 11:44
Thanks John but that's okay. I want to remain anonymous on this forum so I won't be pointing you to my portfolio.
Rest assured that my keywords are fine. The dials under my name should testify to that.
In any case I use a professional Keywording service now.
Title: Re: Extended Licensing?
Post by: johngriffin on November 04, 2008, 19:42
cool microbius.  just wanted to help but looks like you are doing ok for yourself.  i hope we can increase that for you.  if you wanted to email me privately to protect your identity on the forum you are more than welcome to do that.