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Title: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Pixart on November 27, 2013, 14:04
W.T.F? ? ?  Two Dollars and Sixty Four Cents?!?!?!?
On this photo's profile they are asking $80 for Extended Licenses.

I don't think Congratulations! is the way to begin an email like this.  It should say, We are terribly ashamed to inform you.....

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Subject:   $ Depositphotos: File Sold by Extended License
 
From: Depositphotos <[email protected]> (Add as Preferred Sender)   
 
Date: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:25 pm
To: ********
 


Dear Lorraine Swanson,

Congratulations!
One of your files has just been sold on www.depositphotos.com (http://www.depositphotos.com).

 
File ID: 9834491
File Name: Stained Glass Quilt Pattern
Size: Partner Sales
Your Profit: $2.64

Date: Nov.27, 2013 14:25:49


If you have any technical or other questions, please don't hesitate to Contact Us.
Thank you for your continued interest in Depositphotos!

Best regards,
The Depositphotos Team
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: cthoman on November 27, 2013, 14:12
That sucks. Is that typical?
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: stockastic on November 27, 2013, 14:48
I love this part:

Size: Partner Sales


It means they've let in another middleman, which costs them nothing because the new guy's commission just comes out of yours.

Or maybe it's a discount for a "big, important" customer.  You'll make it up on volume.

Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Spray and Pray on November 27, 2013, 15:00
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\


Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: stockastic on November 27, 2013, 15:03
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\
I haven't signed up with DepostPhotos.  I already have enough people giving away my photos, don't need another at this time. 
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: stocked on November 27, 2013, 15:05
I checked my earnings there lately and decided to stop submit there, the percentage seems good but most sales are subscription (what is our percentage in this case anybody knows) all sales are for very low figures not a single one for a two digit sum. They seem only compete on prices.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Pixart on November 27, 2013, 15:20
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\
Well, I've left Istock and 123 this year because they p'd me off and looks like Deposit Photos makes 3.

Do they payout if you close your account? 
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Pixart on November 27, 2013, 15:21
That sucks. Is that typical?
On the product page it says that EL's are $80.  I think they are supposed to pay 50% of that.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Mantis on November 27, 2013, 15:32
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  most of flips cheapo MS agencies :-\
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Mantis on November 27, 2013, 15:34
That sucks. Is that typical?
On the product page it says that EL's are $80.  I think they are supposed to pay 50% of that.

This is sad.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: noodle on November 27, 2013, 15:49
see this thread:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920)
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: ShadySue on November 27, 2013, 16:36
see this thread:

[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920[/url])


Why on earth did the posts later in that thread accumulate so many negatives?
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: noodle on November 27, 2013, 17:23
see this thread:

[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920[/url])


Why on earth did the posts later in that thread accumulate so many negatives?


Probably beacaus eMisterElements is a DP fanboy
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: ShadySue on November 27, 2013, 17:54
see this thread:

[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/is-this-a-record-for-an-el/msg306920/#msg306920[/url])


Why on earth did the posts later in that thread accumulate so many negatives?


Probably beacaus eMisterElements is a DP fanboy

Oh, but some have been balanced up since. Several of these had 2 or 3 negatives when I looked earlier.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on November 27, 2013, 18:33
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\

Not all.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: ShadySue on November 27, 2013, 18:55
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\

Not all.
Definitely not all.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: marthamarks on November 27, 2013, 21:20
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\
I haven't signed up with DepostPhotos.  I already have enough people giving away my photos, don't need another at this time.

I haven't signed up with DP either. Ain't uploading more stuff to the other sites either. From now on, every single one of my new images will be "exclusive" on my own Symbiostock site.

Feels great!
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: noodle on November 27, 2013, 22:09
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\
I haven't signed up with DepostPhotos.  I already have enough people giving away my photos, don't need another at this time.

I haven't signed up with DP either. Ain't uploading more stuff to the other sites either. From now on, every single one of my new images will be "exclusive" on my own Symbiostock site.

Feels great!

Atta girl!!

Thats the way to do it!!
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: sdeva on November 28, 2013, 00:27
On a related note.. Subscription sales are the bane (read that as - a cause of great distress and annoyance) of the current day microstock business - unless backed by huge volumes as in case of Shuttertock.  All other sites - DP included - are simply diluting contributor returns to untenable levels and undermining the viability of this business.  But DP is not alone unfortunately. Similar trend on so many other sites as well !
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: marthamarks on November 28, 2013, 00:54
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\
I haven't signed up with DepostPhotos.  I already have enough people giving away my photos, don't need another at this time.

I haven't signed up with DP either. Ain't uploading more stuff to the other sites either. From now on, every single one of my new images will be "exclusive" on my own Symbiostock site.

Feels great!

Atta girl!!

Thats the way to do it!!

 8)  Thanks, Noodle!
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: ShadySue on November 28, 2013, 11:21
On a related note.. Subscription sales are the bane (read that as - a cause of great distress and annoyance) of the current day microstock business - unless backed by huge volumes as in case of Shuttertock.  All other sites - DP included - are simply diluting contributor returns to untenable levels and undermining the viability of this business.  But DP is not alone unfortunately. Similar trend on so many other sites as well !
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price. Unless they have a USP which is discernable and valuable to buyers, and market like crazy. Then of course, low prices hardly makes for widespread marketing.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: marthamarks on November 28, 2013, 11:33
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Ron on November 28, 2013, 12:28
On a related note.. Subscription sales are the bane (read that as - a cause of great distress and annoyance) of the current day microstock business - unless backed by huge volumes as in case of Shuttertock.  All other sites - DP included - are simply diluting contributor returns to untenable levels and undermining the viability of this business.  But DP is not alone unfortunately. Similar trend on so many other sites as well !
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price. Unless they have a USP which is discernable and valuable to buyers, and market like crazy. Then of course, low prices hardly makes for widespread marketing.
But even when the images are offered for 15 cent at 123, they still dont manage to get ahead. For some reason Shutterstock always ends on top.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: stockastic on November 28, 2013, 12:59
Although we don't like to think about it - and some people get angry if it's discussed - I think we all realize that if and when SS really ends up controlling the market, they'll totally destroy it.

Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Ron on November 28, 2013, 13:02
Although we don't like to think about it - and some people get angry if it's discussed - I think we all realize that if and when SS really ends up controlling the market, they'll totally destroy it.
When you have a monopoly prices usually go up, not down.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: stockastic on November 28, 2013, 14:12
Although we don't like to think about it - and some people get angry if it's discussed - I think we all realize that if and when SS really ends up controlling the market, they'll totally destroy it.
When you have a monopoly prices usually go up, not down.

I'm taking our point of view, not theirs.   When a monopoly takes hold, prices to buyers go up, but payments to suppliers go down because the suppliers have no more leverage. 
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: djpadavona on November 28, 2013, 15:12
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\
I haven't signed up with DepostPhotos.  I already have enough people giving away my photos, don't need another at this time.

+1 to that. I never signed up with Deposit after reading so many posts like these over the past few years. I don't understand why contributors continue to sell themselves out for companies like this.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: stocked on November 28, 2013, 15:23
.... I don't understand why contributors continue to sell themselves out for companies like this.
I prefer first-hand experience but I do make decisions.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: loop on November 28, 2013, 17:41
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.

Wise words.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: luissantos84 on November 28, 2013, 18:04
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.

Wise words.

very wise indeed but there is no other alternative, do you think I should rely on less than 100$ at IS?
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: loop on November 28, 2013, 18:09
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.

Wise words.

very wise indeed but there is no other alternative, do you think I should rely on less than 100$ at IS?

Well, I don't know, that's up to you to consider. Certainly, I make much more of 100 per month at istock.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: luissantos84 on November 28, 2013, 18:10
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.

Wise words.

very wise indeed but there is no other alternative, do you think I should rely on less than 100$ at IS?

Well, I don't know, that's up to you to consider. Certainly, I make much more of 100 per month at istock.

for me they are only wise words, nothing else
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: ShadySue on November 28, 2013, 18:17
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.
That's exactly what I meant.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Tonygers on November 29, 2013, 09:21
I got an EL today for $2.76 and contacted them immediately to tell them to disable my participation in this ridiculous program.
I'm really seething and will consider dropping them completely after my next pay out.
 :(
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Gel-O Shooter on November 29, 2013, 11:30
I got one of those $2.64 ELs yesterday too.  I wish I had told them where to stick their "partner sales" before they screwed me over instead of afterward.  Maybe if everybody on the forum with a DP account will contact them to disable this "feature" they will get the message.  But I doubt it.  >:(
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Pete on November 29, 2013, 15:10
Sad part is that we all still submit images to them  :-\

Many people that is formerly submitted images.  :)

Part that got me was all the people so happy to get their 25 cents to fill the site and make it viable, when it was about the only pay many would get from them. So, three cheers for the bribe and people who sold out, to enable another sinking agency that takes advantage of the artists.

Dilution of downloads, too many weak agencies based on price alone = race to the bottom, and mysterious low partner program sales that have invaded like a deadly virus. All the happy people who got their payout from DP for a quick buck, helped make this happen.

Stop supporting the people who steal your work and pay you pennies. If nothing else, start a SymbioStock site and collect 100%
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: heywoody on November 29, 2013, 19:01
One could argue that it is SS's success with selling at very low prices (for subs) that forces other site to compete on price.

Yep. A classic case of the race to the bottom. And despite good sales on SS, we are all paying the price in the long run.

Wise words.
Dunno about that.  Low prices are not so bad when coupled with high volumes and SS does provide the occasional EL and high value SOD and even the standard OD pays better than FT & IS with only DT generating an average higher price for these.

Subs are like death and taxes - you can avoid the sites doing subs but doesn't leave much of a market place.  Doesn't mean  you have to upload to low price / low volume sites though.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: kentannenbaum on December 03, 2013, 11:18
This cements it for me.  I signed with them a few months ago and had that sinking feeling it was a mistake.  I've got enough issues with the other places that have my work but for the came reasons I pulled out of a couple of others, that's my plan here...beginning today.

Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: noodle on December 25, 2013, 11:10
opted out of the stupid "partner sales' program awhile ago after I got $2.64 for an EL.

Just got a 'regular' EL last week of over $35 - now thats more like it, albeit it is a rarity to get those.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Goofy on December 25, 2013, 13:30
Yet some major players are getting the 50 percent so I guess demand that from them or drop them!
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: Goofy on December 25, 2013, 15:05
Okay, I am at bronze level and need almost 4,500 more downloads for my next promotion!  This one company that I will dump in 2014.
Title: Re: Deposit Photos Extended Licence $2.64!!!!!!
Post by: KimsCreativeHub on December 26, 2013, 04:39
I always opt out of partner sites, they're like the "black hole of sales" ;)


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