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« on: March 06, 2015, 14:47 »
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Is uploading to Deposit worth the time and trouble?  I've noticed them creeping up the Poll for earnings - a year or so ago they were down at 8.0 and now they're at 12 and rising.  Getting close to 123RF.

And yet nearly everything I read about them here seems to be critical, negative, including references to 'being dishonest, crooks etc'.

Does anyone here actually have something positive to say about Deposit, and experience of rising earnings in line with the Poll numbers?


« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2015, 15:06 »
+19
No, no and no!, this is the worst agency , 90% is subs for 0.30$,10% is credit sales for 0.44$, never and never  enterprise license, credit sale are rare like panda.

my opinion is they are stealing. even bigstock is much better, i quit uploading to deposit, they are criminals

12.4 is another lie, i upload business images, compare to SS they are about 1% to 2% of SS sales.

i beg you not to upload on DP.

Thank you very much!


Semmick Photo

« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2015, 15:13 »
+14
NO !

Criminal outfit

« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2015, 15:18 »
+16
Plain and simple - no.

« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 15:58 »
+15
No!

« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 16:55 »
+9
I hope you instigate/provoke only. Go back to threads from 2014 about DP and you will find your answer and you won't have any more questions or doubts... DP=NO! Just give a wide berth.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2015, 16:58 by Ariene »

« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2015, 17:05 »
+14
I imagine they are creeping up because so many people pulled their work that the ones left are the only ones left to buy from.

« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2015, 17:49 »
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I didn't make the decision to stop uploading yet but it's interesting to see what others say here. I will give it another run because I only uploaded 100+ images ever since I got accepted few months ago. I feel pretty cheap so far, with 1$/month. I make more on canstockphoto. There is something untrustworthy about this website.

Once I upload a sufficient amount of images and still don't feel right about it, I may pull out as well.

I was wondering lately: From which corrupt or not corrupt country are they originally from? ;) Their main headquarters are in US but the website feels very russian to me.

« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 19:37 »
+9
I never submitted to DP - at the beginning (summer 2011, when I left exclusivity) because I had concerns about an outfit that started out as a file sharing site - pirating content, in other words.

Then I received e-mail from one of their staff offering me a special "deal" that I could start somewhere other than the lowest commission rate and get preferential search placement, plus "It also involves a special algorithm we developed to let your images be placed on first pages of our search engine which is going to raise your profit from collaborating with us."

That just failed the smell test - when they promised the next person and the next and the next, we can't all be on the first page. Not to mention I couldn't see how focusing on schemes like this versus good results for the buyer could be a good long term strategy.

Then the long list of tales here about underhanded dealings - go and read about the Shotshop fiasco as a recent example - that make it clear that this folks are fighting Fotolia for the title of most ethically challenged agency.

If you upload there for the cash, first try and get one of their deals for a higher rate and secondly watch your back.

« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2015, 21:32 »
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Yes, Jo Ann, I applied to Deposit and got that same email - special treatment, priority search placement etc etc.  Sounded a bit fishy to me.

But what about the Poll over on the right?  Are people saying that DP's position there isn't real, that it's been manipulated in some way?

Is DP just a 'front' for a business that sends images to countless third party agencies in Russia, Eastern Bloc etc, taking the lion's share of the income and then just paying out subs to suppliers?  It's owned by a Russian guy isn't it?  Or is it a genuine agency with potential?

« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2015, 00:22 »
+5
NOT WORTH IT - this agency has a weak position in the micro market and therefore doesn't sell a lot of photos. My worst performing agency by several hundred %.

« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2015, 01:16 »
+5
Recently demanded to delete my images from their partners. Cannot see benefit for photographer from redistributors in micro sales.

« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2015, 03:49 »
+9
NO! Not at all! Once your pics are uploaded, you can't remove your work anymore, deactivation of your material it's the only possibility. Don't feed DP!

Dook

« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2015, 05:09 »
+1
For me, they are doing better than Canstock, Bigstock, Alamy, Veer. More less, the poll on the right reflects their position for me.

Dook

« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2015, 05:32 »
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« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 05:47 by Dook »

« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2015, 06:42 »
-3
$ today, $ tomorrow...
Every 50$ payout is ok for me.
100% agree with dook.

« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2015, 08:43 »
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I applied to Deposit and got that same email - special treatment, priority search placement etc etc.  Sounded a bit fishy to me.

Didn't got the special treatment email yet, but special treatment for money sounds like a very Russian thing to do.

Is that legal?
I know you pay money on ebay to be placed in the top section, but ebay lets you know which itmes have been manipulated (at least if you have good eyes to see the almost invisible grey separators)

« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 08:45 by einstein »

Dook

« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2015, 10:00 »
+12

Didn't got the special treatment email yet, but special treatment for money sounds like a very Russian thing to do.


I can't believe you are identifying a whole nation with some kind of criminal activity on an international forum. There are a lot of Russians here. There a lot of people of all nationalities. That's why I always try to be polite and respect other members.
Big minus from me to you.

« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2015, 12:35 »
+1
I imagine they are creeping up because so many people pulled their work that the ones left are the only ones left to buy from.

Only ones left are the ones that DP pays to vote them up. Many people pulled because of bad 3% pay, lies, selling to partners for sub pay while the partners sold for full price. DP has been caught in denial lies. I don't believe the poll is true, only people who make money stayed. NO, low earner, no future.

« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2015, 13:15 »
+8
... But what about the Poll over on the right? 

The poll is not a bad general gauge of how sites are doing, but many people don't submit data to them and there's no check whatever that anything that is submitted is factual. Something like the cartoon: on the internet, no one knows you're a dog...

Everyone's tolerance for agency shenanigans is different. I was making decent money at Veer, but left 18 months or so ago because they refuse to offer an opt out of their partner sales, refuse to give us a list of the sites they partner with and refused to change an unfair payment system for partner sales. Some people submit to everywhere and pay no attention to the specific terms or conditions or fairness because the money does add up and they aren't bothered by the proliferation of their work in many sites.

At some point, what we put up with becomes the norm across the board - bad behavior begets more.

« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2015, 13:31 »
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Hey, I can see how that might come out the really wrong way, but I also suspect you wanted to understand my statement the way you did. Most people are victims to corruption and not its perpertrators. I have russian friends myself. I meant to imply that the russian societal structure supports corruption and the russian state has a long history of it.

So given that depositphotos has some shady roots in Russia, there might be heightened probability of scam and corruption.

And don't tell me that's racism. When I say that most of my scam mail comes from Nigeria, that's a fact and it's nothing personal against any Nigerian (except the guy who actually is responsible for those emails).


Didn't got the special treatment email yet, but special treatment for money sounds like a very Russian thing to do.

I can't believe you are identifying a whole nation with some kind of criminal activity on an international forum. There are a lot of Russians here. There a lot of people of all nationalities. That's why I always try to be polite and respect other members.
Big minus from me to you.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 13:36 by einstein »

« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2015, 15:14 »
+1
50$ on DP now  or half year later 100$ all the time more on SS?

stop upload to deposit.

$ today, $ tomorrow...
Every 50$ payout is ok for me.
100% agree with dook.

« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2015, 16:07 »
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50$ on DP now  or half year later 100$ all the time more on SS?

stop upload to deposit
.
------------------------------------------------------


$ today, $ tomorrow...
Every 50$ payout is ok for me.
100% agree with dook.

And who are you?
Domina hot line?

« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 16:16 by enstoker »

« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2015, 19:18 »
+11
No, no and no!, this is the worst agency , 90% is subs for 0.30$,10% is credit sales for 0.44$, never and never  enterprise license, credit sale are rare like panda.
...

Well, I am not saying that I like DP. However, I don't like misinformation.

Here is RPD (return per download) from my portfolio: 0.62 at DP which is higher than FT (0.49), and almost the same as SS. For reference: 123RF 0.94, DT 1.44. This is just microstock ...

Otherwise, I agree. Do not upload to DP! Or even better. Do not upload to any other stock agency. We don't need more competition.
 :)

« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2015, 19:39 »
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Didn't got the special treatment email yet, but special treatment for money sounds like a very Russian thing to do.

Whether it's a "very Russian thing to do" or not is sort of irrelevant. DP originated in Cyprus, not Russia.


« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2015, 05:47 »
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my rpd is 0.37, that is lower then subs on SS!

0.62 is misinformation


No, no and no!, this is the worst agency , 90% is subs for 0.30$,10% is credit sales for 0.44$, never and never  enterprise license, credit sale are rare like panda.
...

Well, I am not saying that I like DP. However, I don't like misinformation.

Here is RPD (return per download) from my portfolio: 0.62 at DP which is higher than FT (0.49), and almost the same as SS. For reference: 123RF 0.94, DT 1.44. This is just microstock ...

Otherwise, I agree. Do not upload to DP! Or even better. Do not upload to any other stock agency. We don't need more competition.
 :)

« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2015, 06:29 »
+1
All time RPD 53c,  This year RPD 63c
Just to give another statistic

« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2015, 08:07 »
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i guarantee my rpd is correct, hard to believe in 40% range  :o


All time RPD 53c,  This year RPD 63c
Just to give another statistic

« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2015, 09:44 »
+7
I wish I had never uploaded to this site.  While I have deactivated a good part of my port, it remains concerning that DP keeps deactivated images in their system instead of deleting them. WHY? one wonders ..  :-\ 

« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2015, 11:51 »
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RPD 0.44

« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2015, 12:07 »
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Inpired by previously posted rpd calculations, I just made my own. I ordered the agencies by how much money I make per upload (that includes uploading images that get rejected later). Even though depositphotos accepts almost everything, they are still my second last place.

Here is my reality:

  • Shutterstock (not surprising)
  • Dreamstime (they reject a lot, but my images sell well)
  • Istock (still doesn't really reflect effort, given how painful the sumbission process itself is)
  • Photodune (if they rejected less they would easily score better than istock)
  • Canstock (wasn't like that before, but I got lots of sales lately)
  • 123rf
  • Fotolia
  • Bigstock
  • Veer
  • Depositphotos
  • Pond5 (I probably set the prices too high over there)

« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2015, 12:29 »
+6
No, no and no!, this is the worst agency , 90% is subs for 0.30$,10% is credit sales for 0.44$, never and never  enterprise license, credit sale are rare like panda.
...

Well, I am not saying that I like DP. However, I don't like misinformation.

Here is RPD (return per download) from my portfolio: 0.62 at DP which is higher than FT (0.49), and almost the same as SS. For reference: 123RF 0.94, DT 1.44. This is just microstock ...

Otherwise, I agree. Do not upload to DP! Or even better. Do not upload to any other stock agency. We don't need more competition.
 :)

What "misinformation"? Try to delete a pic on DP.  It's impossible. You can't delete any material on DP, even if you close your account. The material will be only "deactivated". Nobody knows, what happens in a few years. But you will not have any control over your work. DP is like facebook, it's like a black hole, There is no way, your material will stay on DTs server as long as DP exist.


Semmick Photo

« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2015, 12:32 »
+3
^^

I dont understand how that is even legal. I havent closed my account there until I have figured out a way to make them delete my images. I dont trust them for one second.

« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2015, 14:08 »
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Please enlighten me.
Interesting how many words about closing account, deleting files....

Why should I delete files, close account ?
As I said, 40-50$ almost every month on DP is not bad, agree?
DP is just another miserable microstock agency.
Arent we in this microstock world to earn money?

And btw, are you sure if you delete your files on other agencies, this agencies really delete them from partner sites, as well?
NOBODY can track this! And we talked about this problem many times.


« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2015, 14:32 »
+1
It is not bad... Fast upload and low earnings but still better than canstock, veer, bigstock, alamy, pond5 etc

« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2015, 14:39 »
+8
Please enlighten me.
Interesting how many words about closing account, deleting files....

Why should I delete files, close account ?
As I said, 40-50$ almost every month on DP is not bad, agree?
DP is just another miserable microstock agency.
Arent we in this microstock world to earn money?

And btw, are you sure if you delete your files on other agencies, this agencies really delete them from partner sites, as well?
NOBODY can track this! And we talked about this problem many times.

It could happen, that you discover your pics for example on Shotshop or other agencies. And you will probably see, that these agencies sale your pictures for a price, say 25 Euro. And than you will recognise, that you get a payout for a simple subscription sale! Could it be a reason for deleting your content?

« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2015, 15:24 »
+2
Please enlighten me.
Interesting how many words about closing account, deleting files....

Why should I delete files, close account ?
As I said, 40-50$ almost every month on DP is not bad, agree?
DP is just another miserable microstock agency.
Arent we in this microstock world to earn money?

And btw, are you sure if you delete your files on other agencies, this agencies really delete them from partner sites, as well?
NOBODY can track this! And we talked about this problem many times.

It could happen, that you discover your pics for example on Shotshop or other agencies. And you will probably see, that these agencies sale your pictures for a price, say 25 Euro. And than you will recognise, that you get a payout for a simple subscription sale! Could it be a reason for deleting your content?

Shotshop is only one of the "PROBLEMATIC" partner sites.
OPT OUT is solution and also checking from time to time if are your files really deactivated. Mine was after one month of deactivation again active so I e-mailed them again. You can not trust anybody on microstock.
Also, nobody force us to be a contributor on this sites. Collect the money and be happy :)

« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2015, 16:05 »
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^^

I dont understand how that is even legal. I havent closed my account there until I have figured out a way to make them delete my images. I dont trust them for one second.

Reading trough this topic and few other ones in history I was wondering a same question and few days ago I asked my lawyer friend the same question just to hear his opinion.

The solution can vary from country to country but its generally like this for any business you can name...


If there is no reason, time limit etc in your current agreement  to remove your work from the site you just have to request it by e-mail or even better in written, with proof they have received it.

You request instant removal and instant delete of all your work on the site BUT you also offer them  to keep your images with a daily fee you charge for each image they decide to keep and it can be any fee you can think of (its your product).  Now just keeping your images is an act on which they are legally agreeing and accepting on your contract offer and they have activated a new contract perfectly valid on any court you can imagine. Now when you receive a notice on any file activity on the site you can send a recipe with a fee from the contract.

Just like when you park the car on parking spot, just the act of parking your car on that spot is the act on which you are legally accepting contract offer between you and the parking company without the need of signing it.

In my opinion that should solve the problem

 

« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2015, 17:23 »
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When I started uploading I hadn't heard all of the negative comments.
I have uploaded around 100 images which brings in $25 - $30/month.
Not great, but not the worst.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2015, 17:33 »
+4
$30 with 100 images on DP is outstanding !! Can you images what those images will do on SS? I made $15 on DP with 1000 images.

« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2015, 23:11 »
+1
DP earns me about 1/5 of SS per month.  Def not top 4 but solidly middle tier.

« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2015, 14:54 »
-2
Strange what you all write, because I have just an opposite opinion and I like Deposit Photos.
I submit to 18 (so almost all) agencies and for my portfolio the number of sales and income from Deposit Photos is on the third place after SS and FT but before even Dreamstime and 123RF.

 

Batman

« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2015, 11:27 »
+2
No unless you want to get 3% or sub for something sold EL to a partner.


 

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