Author Topic: DP: Add Free Files – increase the ranking of your portfolio (Read 22058 times)

angelawaye · « **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2016, 09:27 »

I did get the email too.

I totally agree with sgoodwin4813. Only people with low sales and poor images will opt into this - so all the crap images will come up first. Buyers will definitely be aggravated! If you ever look at the Free files sections, they are not very good which is why they are free...

longtimeshooter · « **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2016, 10:07 »

I have to say, over at 123rf when I started adding to the donate section, my sales have increased quite a bit on both the ones that are "free" and ones that are not. I have been with 123rf for years and it wasnt until I started donating that the sales started going through the roof…. they are now one of my favorite sites due to this and you can pick and choose which photos and for how long they are available. The DP version dosnt sound as good as the 123rf version.
As for rejections, I have found small batches to DP get more acceptance than large batches. I cap my submissions to 10 at a time and wait til those are gone through and then add another 10 that are waiting in the unfinished section…..

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 17, 2016, 11:10 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 17, 2016, 09:13

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on March 17, 2016, 09:08
Quote from: Artist on March 17, 2016, 08:29
Quote from: trek on March 17, 2016, 06:02
They can bury me as low as they want. No free photos... ever.
Wow, do hard work and give them free and if you don't give they will bury you down in search.

I had not thought about the extortionate aspect of this but you are definitely right.

DP has been doing OK lately, with more high-value DLs rather than strictly subs (as it was for a while there). If this scheme leads to lower rankings and fewer DLs then they will just lose contributors. Other companies with this kind of scheme have implied that it would increase sales but this is the first one to explicitly say they will increase your ranking. Apparently they think contributors are too stupid to notice that this is bad.

I assume the only people who would opt in to this are those with very low sales and poor images. If those people get higher placement in searches it will frustrate customers and they will just go elsewhere. This scheme has the potential to alienate both contributors and customers - brilliant!

Have you done a detailed statistical analysis on large enough data set? because I have found the opposite, average RPD including subs and other downloads dived massively after they changed the royalties.

I can only analyze my own data. For me, average RPDL per year on DP ranged from 0.35-0.55 from 2010-2014 but was 0.74 during 2015, so it seemed to go up after the change. So far this month have had more larger sales but it is too early to say what it will be for the year - certainly within the range of previous years, no real drop after the change, fortunately.

That is RPDL. For total earnings, those have increased every year on DP despite not uploading anything in over a year. I don't think that will continue this year unless I start uploading again.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #28 on:** March 17, 2016, 11:49 »

Strange, I saw a serious drop in about October last year. I make about $4-$500/ month there. I haven't uploaded in a while thanks to their shenanigans so maybe that's why.

cathyslife · « **Reply #29 on:** March 17, 2016, 13:20 »

Quote from: longtimeshooter on March 17, 2016, 10:07

I have to say, over at 123rf when I started adding to the donate section, my sales have increased quite a bit on both the ones that are "free" and ones that are not. I have been with 123rf for years and it wasnt until I started donating that the sales started going through the roof…. they are now one of my favorite sites due to this and you can pick and choose which photos and for how long they are available. The DP version dosnt sound as good as the 123rf version.
As for rejections, I have found small batches to DP get more acceptance than large batches. I cap my submissions to 10 at a time and wait til those are gone through and then add another 10 that are waiting in the unfinished section…..

I think this is the key, though. The DP offer doesn't allow such control. They get to pick and choose, and I imagine they will pick your best images (best sellers). If you decide to offer some for free, that is one thing. Allowing them the control is quite a different matter.

Dumc · « **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2016, 13:21 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 17, 2016, 09:13

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on March 17, 2016, 09:08
Quote from: Artist on March 17, 2016, 08:29
Quote from: trek on March 17, 2016, 06:02
They can bury me as low as they want. No free photos... ever.
Wow, do hard work and give them free and if you don't give they will bury you down in search.

I had not thought about the extortionate aspect of this but you are definitely right.

DP has been doing OK lately, with more high-value DLs rather than strictly subs (as it was for a while there). If this scheme leads to lower rankings and fewer DLs then they will just lose contributors. Other companies with this kind of scheme have implied that it would increase sales but this is the first one to explicitly say they will increase your ranking. Apparently they think contributors are too stupid to notice that this is bad.

I assume the only people who would opt in to this are those with very low sales and poor images. If those people get higher placement in searches it will frustrate customers and they will just go elsewhere. This scheme has the potential to alienate both contributors and customers - brilliant!

Have you done a detailed statistical analysis on large enough data set? because I have found the opposite, average RPD including subs and other downloads dived massively after they changed the royalties.

That's true. I sell more files then a year ago, but earn equal or less. I used to have some credit sales now and then, now only subs.

longtimeshooter · « **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2016, 13:37 »

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I think this is the key, though. The DP offer doesn't allow such control. They get to pick and choose, and I imagine they will pick your best images (best sellers). If you decide to offer some for free, that is one thing. Allowing them the control is quite a different matter.
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yes! and I offer mostly old forgotten images, some times I will add a brand new one for kicks. I also do not redonate after the image reaches a count of 10 downloads. And it is pretty fun to watch those old ones regain sales afterwards.

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