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Agency Based Discussion => DepositPhotos => Topic started by: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:33

Title: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:33: Must be a sign of the times...30 cent subs...

Sold to Belavia airlines who claim on their website they have an audience of 4 million a year...

https://belaviaonair.by/about

https://issuu.com/belavia_onair/docs/onair_120_issuu
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Noedelhap on November 16, 2019, 07:43: No offense, but if you're unhappy about that, you shouldn't do microstock and instead do real photography assignments. Or don't sell via Depositphotos, although most agencies sell for pennies.
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:59: Quote from: Noedelhap on November 16, 2019, 07:43
No offense, but if you're unhappy about that, you shouldn't do microstock and instead do real photography assignments. Or don't sell via Depositphotos, although most agencies sell for pennies.

It's not the price that bothers me, in this case, it's that particular buyer purchasing the wrong license, either deliberately or by ignorance.

https://depositphotos.com/license-comparison.html

This needs to be an extended license as it's above the 500,000 circulation limit.

https://depositphotos.com/license-comparison.html

Also steaming from more than a dozen suspicious Alamy Personal Usage licenses...
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Chichikov on November 16, 2019, 08:05: Quote from: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:33
Must be a sign of the times...30 cent subs...

Sold to Belavia airlines who claim on their website they have an audience of 4 million a year...

https://belaviaonair.by/about

https://issuu.com/belavia_onair/docs/onair_120_issuu

Did you contact Deposhitphotos?
They are very kind and understanding people, and also very honest
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 08:09: Quote from: Chichikov on November 16, 2019, 08:05
Quote from: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:33
Must be a sign of the times...30 cent subs...

Sold to Belavia airlines who claim on their website they have an audience of 4 million a year...

https://belaviaonair.by/about

https://issuu.com/belavia_onair/docs/onair_120_issuu

Did you contact Deposhitphotos?
They are very kind and understanding people, and also very honest

Yes, let's see...
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: bestravelvideo on November 16, 2019, 08:26: Thank you for bringing this to our attention as I have found I also sold a pic at this very issue, for a low price.
In the past, I had sales on travel book guides or airport magazines editions but they were under 500.000 print runs so they fitted the licensing rights that Shutterstock sells.
It does not feel rewarding to see your work paid so low but that was the license.
In this case, with Depositphotos it’s different.
If the magazine circulates more than 500k copies, my pic and your pics need to be paid as part of an extended license.
Belavia says: Audience - more than 4 million people a year.
Is it their personal estimate, counting heads or they actually print at that level?
I will also contact Depositphotos, as I believe they were not aware of this use.
In real life no one likes to be robbed and in such an unfortunate event calls the police, as simple as that.
Here, if there is a misuse, we need to do an inquiry and protect our interests in a polite and formal way.
We do not need witty comments about stock sales, we all need to be united on that.
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: bestravelvideo on November 16, 2019, 08:26: .
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Uncle Pete on November 16, 2019, 11:06: Quote from: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:33
Must be a sign of the times...30 cent subs...

Sold to Belavia airlines who claim on their website they have an audience of 4 million a year...

4 million views a year is not 4 million copies a year. The magazine is a monthly (although I can't read a word on that page in Russian?) :)

Hypothetical, 4 million views / 12 = 333,333 a month. That's under 500,000, even if every passenger gets a copy.

But it's also online, I can't recall if the digital version counts for any specific use or if that's included?
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: helloitsme on December 23, 2019, 12:05: Congrats for the sale!!
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Brasilnut on December 23, 2019, 12:10: Ah forgot to update on the issue. So they consider the individual circulation of the magazine per publication so only about 7,000 copies which is well below the 500,000 limit. Nevertheless, always good to keep them on their toes!
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: Uncle Pete on December 24, 2019, 11:20: Quote from: Brasilnut on December 23, 2019, 12:10
Ah forgot to update on the issue. So they consider the individual circulation of the magazine per publication so only about 7,000 copies which is well below the 500,000 limit. Nevertheless, always good to keep them on their toes!

I think someone else said that. It's views not circulation?

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 16, 2019, 11:06
Quote from: Brasilnut on November 16, 2019, 07:33
Must be a sign of the times...30 cent subs...

Sold to Belavia airlines who claim on their website they have an audience of 4 million a year...

4 million views a year is not 4 million copies a year. The magazine is a monthly (although I can't read a word on that page in Russian?) :)

Hypothetical, 4 million views / 12 = 333,333 a month. That's under 500,000, even if every passenger gets a copy.

But it's also online, I can't recall if the digital version counts for any specific use or if that's included?
Title: Re: Images sold for subs in 4million circulation magazine
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on December 25, 2019, 03:43: I think their number tells you more about how many passengers they carry a year than how many magazines or readers they have. It's standard media practice to present circulation in the most exaggerated way possible in order to try to justify inflated advertising rates.