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« on: January 18, 2013, 12:03 »
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At least they are truthful about their inspection process...

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As a newbie I know with this company I will be at a disadvantage over seasoned Pros....


rubyroo

« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 12:13 »
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Wow I've never seen that.

So a person with 10,000 inferior photos gets more respect and favouritism than someone with 2,000 excellent images?

« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 12:19 »
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I am not sure of their numbers level...but I am sure that my 100 gets me less respect.... which isn't a problem for me.  I KNOW I have to "pay my dues".

What I like about this is they are up front and truthful.   Which makes me think that other sites do this as well.... they just don't mention it.

I know if I ran a site I would help the 2000 image person over the 20 image person.

rubyroo

« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 13:03 »
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 :)

I grant you that ports with only 20 images make it harder to build a viable stock collection, but I question the wisdom of favouring size of portfolio over anything else.

Ultimately - if I had an agency - I'd put quality first and choose to have a smaller collection.  Rather as GL does.

tab62

« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 13:31 »
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No wonder why the take 30 days to look at my wimpy portfolio and my losy 3 sales a month at a whooping .30 cents each. :-\



« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 15:56 »
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I think the idea is that someone with 10,000 average (but sellable) photos is more serious about stock than someone with just a few really good photos.

Someone with just a few photos, no matter how good, may be picking the accidentally good images out of their thousands of unsellable vacation and family photos.  Just a punter who thinks they can make a few bucks off of the pictures they have taken anyway, without having to put much effort into it.


« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 14:46 »
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Well, I now have 2000 photos up at DP and it is my worst performing site: it is behind SS, IS, FT, DT, CS, BS, 123RF, and Alamy. At this point, I'm a little disappointed . . . .

tab62

« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2013, 14:56 »
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"Well, I now have 2000 photos up at DP and it is my worst performing site: it is behind SS, IS, FT, DT, CS, BS, 123RF, and Alamy. At this point, I'm a little disappointed . . . ."

At this point I am HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED is more like it... :(



hotwalkn

  • ...I have a lens fetish...

« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 15:18 »
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I have a small, but constantly growing port there and to be quite honest - considering I am still waiting for SS contributor approval for  images (already accepted for footage) DP is my top seller. :)

« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2013, 11:37 »
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My royalties from the "deceased" StockXpert are about 4 times what I am earning at Depositphoto.....

« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2013, 12:28 »
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As a newbie I know with this company I will be at a disadvantage over seasoned Pros....
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I wouldn't waste any energy worrying about it.

« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 13:30 »
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There's only one way to become a seasoned pro yourself...

« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 13:40 »
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There's only one way to become a seasoned pro yourself...

tarot? ;D

« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 17:46 »
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DP is my top seller. :)

So what? At $.30 a pop I'd have to sell 50x as much as I sell with SS to earn the same income. My sales volume with DP is in the middle of the pack but my earnings month after month are dead last.

« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 17:59 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

hotwalkn

  • ...I have a lens fetish...

« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2013, 13:50 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?

« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 14:24 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?

have I said that? pretty much if I say SS or IS or DP is my top seller, I won't back it up with 4 sales because it is somehow a very small universe (next time say how relevant it is)

hotwalkn

  • ...I have a lens fetish...

« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 14:59 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?

have I said that? pretty much if I say SS or IS or DP is my top seller, I won't back it up with 4 sales because it is somehow a very small universe (next time say how relevant it is)

I would not expect you to back a "top seller" comment with 4 sales considering your ports, but I would not judge you if 4 were all you did have either. My 4 sales are VERY relevant to me with my port size. Its all a matter of degrees. 4 sales to me - 40 or 400 to you, how ever you wish to view it.

« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2013, 15:07 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?


I'm a newbie myself and I would say post your thoughts, etc.  However, understand that as newbies we have: a) small portfolios, b) limited sales, c) been 'live' on sites for a short amount of time, or d) a combination of all of these.

What that means is that our numbers (both DL and $$) are not statistically significant for discussion.  Meaning that it's too difficult to draw any conclusions or trends from what we see. 

I use this forum to learn from the more experienced people and for industry trends.  Until our portfolio, sales and time on-line become significant/relevant, I would limit comparing ourselves to people who have been at this for many years and have experienced trends worth noting.

hotwalkn

  • ...I have a lens fetish...

« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2013, 15:15 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?


I'm a newbie myself and I would say post your thoughts, etc.  However, understand that as newbies we have: a) small portfolios, b) limited sales, c) been 'live' on sites for a short amount of time, or d) a combination of all of these.

What that means is that our numbers (both DL and $$) are not statistically significant for discussion.  Meaning that it's too difficult to draw any conclusions or trends from what we see. 

I use this forum to learn from the more experienced people and for industry trends.  Until our portfolio, sales and time on-line become significant/relevant, I would limit comparing ourselves to people who have been at this for many years and have experienced trends worth noting.

Well said and I totally agree on most levels. I have been a member and lurking here for roughly a year. My ports are growing very slowly, but growing. And I've learned much from a few in this forum.

« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2013, 16:07 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?

have I said that? pretty much if I say SS or IS or DP is my top seller, I won't back it up with 4 sales because it is somehow a very small universe (next time say how relevant it is)

I would not expect you to back a "top seller" comment with 4 sales considering your ports, but I would not judge you if 4 were all you did have either. My 4 sales are VERY relevant to me with my port size. Its all a matter of degrees. 4 sales to me - 40 or 400 to you, how ever you wish to view it.

I have tried to explain you, too bad you haven't understood it, anyway best of luck!

« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2013, 16:39 »
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sorry Teresa but DP being top seller for you doesn't mean much, you have 4 sales

Are you suggesting I shouldn't bother posting in the threads because I'm a newbie?

What Luis is trying to say here is that it's too early to say 'best seller' based on extremely tiny numbers. After a year you can draw a line and see the results. Unfortunately for the newly uploaded images luck means more than anything else. The new images become known after 1-2 months and start selling after 6-12 months. This, of course, without an old portfolio that 'pulls' the new images.
On the top of that, the guys behind the search engines are always playing with the parameters so you may realize after several months, that your best seller agency is the worse from now on...

« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2013, 17:06 »
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Agreed.  He is simply saying that if your numbers are small it is hard to make any statistical relevant conclusions with them.  If a person's sales are 1 sale one week and 5 another week, that is 500% difference week on week.  I think when sales start to level out to 10% variation week on week for several weeks one can start to draw conclusions... but even then it is very statistically small.  The person selling $1000 a week is still a drop in the bucket of iStock's $10,000,000/week

tab62

« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2013, 17:48 »
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I wouldn't mind being that $1,000 per week drop in the bucket  ;D


Milinz

« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 02:39 »
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I think the idea is that someone with 10,000 average (but sellable) photos is more serious about stock than someone with just a few really good photos.

Someone with just a few photos, no matter how good, may be picking the accidentally good images out of their thousands of unsellable vacation and family photos.  Just a punter who thinks they can make a few bucks off of the pictures they have taken anyway, without having to put much effort into it.

This is about how many pictures and being serious, not quality? How did I make that mistake. If I have a big car, waer expensive clothes and use a expensive camera, I'm a better photographer. Can you show us your portfolio I can see what a true professional microstocker does. I want to be as wonderful as you.


 

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