Author Topic: DepositPhotos and Shotshop- standard purchases gives only subscription amounts? (Read 133805 times)

Pixart · « **Reply #450 on:** March 11, 2014, 10:31 »

How do I contact them, through the webform or can someone share an address. Thanks

amabu · « **Reply #451 on:** March 11, 2014, 11:23 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 11, 2014, 09:51

That agency was quite happy to pay another a subscription and then offer the file at a high price - what does that say about their business ethics?

How do you know?

I think it´s quite possible Shotshop paid DP 50% like in a normal partner deal.
The whole "subscription" and "reseller" shenanigans DP is talking about just doesn´t make any sense. You cannot re-sell what havn´t bought in the first place, can you?

sdeva · « **Reply #452 on:** March 11, 2014, 11:35 »

Oh joy

my DP images have disappeared from Shotshop - finally! Don't know if they are still selling at some other 'partners' - must check this out!

Meanwhile and leading up to this event I have deactivated over a third of my portfolio at DP - trying to pick images that have tended to sell well at other sites. Have also stopped all new uploads to DP. I have to say that this event has undermined them in my mind and I am not prepared to take further risk. Because who knows what they might do in future.

The past, as they say, is the best predictor of the future. And at the moment I have learnt my lesson

roede-orm · « **Reply #453 on:** March 11, 2014, 11:40 »

Quote from: jarih on March 11, 2014, 09:26

What do you think, is it a good idea to offer images direct for ShotShop?

Waste of time!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #454 on:** March 11, 2014, 11:57 »

Quote from: a-b-foto on March 11, 2014, 11:23

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 11, 2014, 09:51
That agency was quite happy to pay another a subscription and then offer the file at a high price - what does that say about their business ethics?

How do you know?

I think it´s quite possible Shotshop paid DP 50% like in a normal partner deal.
The whole "subscription" and "reseller" shenanigans DP is talking about just doesn´t make any sense. You cannot re-sell what havn´t bought in the first place, can you?

I didn't make the purchases, but earlier in this thread one or two users did and verified that the purchase from Shotshop resulted in a subscription download at DP. If you think they're not telling the full story, find the post and PM them to ask

Here are the links

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/msg365027/#msg365027

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/msg365039/#msg365039

amabu · « **Reply #455 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:07 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 11, 2014, 11:57

Quote from: a-b-foto on March 11, 2014, 11:23
Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 11, 2014, 09:51
That agency was quite happy to pay another a subscription and then offer the file at a high price - what does that say about their business ethics?

How do you know?

I think it´s quite possible Shotshop paid DP 50% like in a normal partner deal.
The whole "subscription" and "reseller" shenanigans DP is talking about just doesn´t make any sense. You cannot re-sell what havn´t bought in the first place, can you?

I didn't make the purchases, but earlier in this thread one or two users did and verified that the purchase from Shotshop resulted in a subscription download at DP. If you think they're not telling the full story, find the post and PM them to ask

Here are the links

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/msg365027/#msg365027

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/msg365039/#msg365039

DP pays the photographer a subscription. Nobody knows how much DP gets from Shotshop.

Mantis · « **Reply #456 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:36 »

Quote from: Allsa on March 11, 2014, 10:28

My images appear to be gone from Shotshop, but they are still on Photogenica.

Same here. I wonder if they think they are just appeasing us by shutting down shotshop but keeping them everywhere else. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if after things calm down they are quietly back at shotshop.....due to a technical API connector issue and that they will be very sorry.

prill · « **Reply #457 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:48 »

i found my pictures on ibudgetphoto in a "Dreamstime Collection"...:-(

Ron · « **Reply #458 on:** March 11, 2014, 13:03 »

Vicky and DepositPhotos are lying through their teeth.

Quote

Your portfolio has been successfully removed from our partner programs and API re-seller sites.

Should you have any further questions or require any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

http://depositphotos.com/20399375/stock-photo-Young-woman-showing-two-middle-fingers.html
http://www.shotshop.com/search/20399375

They are lying as if it was written. Utter disrespect. Everyone needs to get their images deactivated and drop them like a brick. Send a message they cant ignore.

Ariene · « **Reply #459 on:** March 11, 2014, 13:19 »

Quote from: prill on March 11, 2014, 12:48

i found my pictures on ibudgetphoto in a "Dreamstime Collection"...:-(

You can opt out anytime.
http://www.dreamstime.com/alliances

Btw. I must ask you again - how are your sales going? As I said before, I used to have sales every day, even few sales a day and it suddenly stopped about 26 Feb. I sold 1 (one!) image in 2 weeks... Still trying to get $3 to reach my payment that I could close account. This is to weird to me. Wonder then, how are your sales going...

(yes, my images are still on partners and resellers sites)

BD · « **Reply #460 on:** March 11, 2014, 13:43 »

I use a different username on DP than other stock sites. My images from DP are now gone from Shotshop, Photogenica and iBudgetphoto. I did a google search with my username, though, and found them on some other sites (although it looks like some of them are no longer available for download and are just showing up in the google search). These are the sites if you want to check for your photos: Samphotostock, Viewphotos.ru, stock.chroma.pl, dekorowalnia.pl, fototapetygdansk.pl, microfotos.com

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #461 on:** March 11, 2014, 13:45 »

Quote from: prill on March 11, 2014, 12:48

i found my pictures on ibudgetphoto in a "Dreamstime Collection"...:-(

I opted out of partnerships at dreamstime a week or two back (I hadn't realized until this Deposit Photos thing blew up) and unlike the useless Deposit Photos response that it was "hard" to remove, my DT photos were gone immediately - they showed up in searches but couldn't be purchased minutes after I opted out.

prill · « **Reply #462 on:** March 11, 2014, 14:04 »

thanks for your info, i´m opted out too now...! :-)

Ariene · « **Reply #463 on:** March 11, 2014, 14:30 »

Quote from: BD on March 11, 2014, 13:43

... found them on some other sites (although it looks like some of them are no longer available for download and are just showing up in the google search). These are the sites if you want to check for your photos: Samphotostock, Viewphotos.ru, stock.chroma.pl, dekorowalnia.pl, fototapetygdansk.pl, microfotos.com

Thank you for this info! My images are here, of course

(and they're from my country)
I believe this is in DP licence? Unlimited printing? Not even extended? Partner program or unlimited options? Never again! This is against my business!

BD · « **Reply #464 on:** March 11, 2014, 21:18 »

No problem!

cobalt · « **Reply #465 on:** March 11, 2014, 21:25 »

Thank you for the list BD. It is good to hear your files are gone, i will check tomorrow for mine.

sdeva · « **Reply #466 on:** March 11, 2014, 21:50 »

I did a quick random check by BDs list (thanks for that), and did not find my images on these sites. Also do not find them on Shotshop any longer. Looking at all these sites, its a bit scary how far and wide DP had managed to spread our content - its as if we had been no longer in control of our work! And to top it all, we were probably being paid a lowly sub rate while the sales may have been made at much higher prices, according to the experience reported by those making test purchase from Shotshop.

I have accordingly started to review all partnership options on different sites. Opted out at 123RF last week. Will look closer at other ones. And possibly stop contributing to any sites that wont allow opt out or wont give a full disclosure about partners and sales. I think that may finally be the way to go to be able to keep some reasonable control of the work.

jarih · « **Reply #467 on:** March 12, 2014, 08:39 »

I asked who are the API re-sellers that I can check out that my images are out. This was DP´s answer:

"We don't disclose any information about our API re-sellers or partner sites."

This is starting to be too thick "porridge", do they have something to hide? Why we should not to know who sell our pictures? I think this is the end of this story.. I must use my middle.. no.. I mean index finger and do some clicks..

stocked · « **Reply #468 on:** March 12, 2014, 08:55 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 11, 2014, 13:45

Quote from: prill on March 11, 2014, 12:48
i found my pictures on ibudgetphoto in a "Dreamstime Collection"...:-(

I opted out of partnerships at dreamstime a week or two back (I hadn't realized until this Deposit Photos thing blew up) and unlike the useless Deposit Photos response that it was "hard" to remove, my DT photos were gone immediately - they showed up in searches but couldn't be purchased minutes after I opted out.

Wow that was fast and easy! Thanks!
And kudos to DT for making it so easy!

Ariene · « **Reply #469 on:** March 12, 2014, 09:30 »

Quote from: jarih on March 12, 2014, 08:39

I asked who are the API re-sellers that I can check out that my images are out. This was DP´s answer:
"We don't disclose any information about our API re-sellers or partner sites."
This is starting to be too thick "porridge", do they have something to hide? Why we should not to know who sell our pictures? I think this is the end of this story.. I must use my middle.. no.. I mean index finger and do some clicks..

As I said before, DP, Veer and DT will not give us that list (info from them by email). I've put that info before here somewhere in this thread...
Looks like only Alamy is fair with us and gives the whole list of partners and lets us decide where and if we wish to sell our work by 3rd hand...

Microstock sites maybe give you more (cheap) clients and sales (for $1) but you absolutely lose control over your work... And, if you watch it carefully, you'll see you lose money this way...

Btw. I thought that all that big agencies are big enough (globally) that they don't need any partners, medium...

Gel-O Shooter · « **Reply #470 on:** March 12, 2014, 10:19 »

If DP has been knowingly selling subs to be resold as credit sales....wouldn't that be a violation of our contract? I think a class-action lawsuit against these jerks might be a good lesson for all the agencies who seem to think THEY own OUR files and can do whatever they please with them.

Pixart · « **Reply #471 on:** March 13, 2014, 15:00 »

I forgot to mention that now the reply from them says "will be removed from our partner programs and API re-seller sites as soon as possible". No mention how long it takes.

pixsol · « **Reply #472 on:** March 14, 2014, 00:22 »

I delayed the inevitable since I had a very small portfolio. But, I decided to go ahead with my OPT OUT:
"Please OPT OUT my FULL portfolio (##) with your agency from all your partnership and reseller programs so that my images will be sold SOLELY on depositphotos.com. Please ensure that my images are removed from all Partners and Resellers at the earliest."

Let me see how quickly this gets done.

sdeva · « **Reply #473 on:** March 14, 2014, 10:02 »

Quote from: pixsol on March 14, 2014, 00:22

I delayed the inevitable since I had a very small portfolio. But, I decided to go ahead with my OPT OUT:
"Please OPT OUT my FULL portfolio (##) with your agency from all your partnership and reseller programs so that my images will be sold SOLELY on depositphotos.com. Please ensure that my images are removed from all Partners and Resellers at the earliest."

Let me see how quickly this gets done.

It took DP almost a month to take me off their partner sites, claiming that it was a 'difficult technical process'. By comparison, I read another contributor's post that the same thing was done by another agency (DT) promptly and immediately when requested. We can draw our conclusions from that!

farbled · « **Reply #474 on:** March 14, 2014, 10:39 »

When I disable an image with DP, it almost immediately is no longer for sale on the partner site. The thumbnail takes a little time to go away but the actual sales page is gone almost immediately. Perhaps it is more difficult to separate them into only the DP database than in their other "partner" db's.

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