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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2016, 13:09 »
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I don't see how limits are "insulting".  They may be frustrating.  You may have to edit your submissions tighter.  But I don't see that as "insulting".


« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2016, 13:17 »
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I don't see how limits are "insulting".  They may be frustrating.  You may have to edit your submissions tighter.  But I don't see that as "insulting".

Rly? They take 70% of sales, shut down uploading/submittal for weeks, and then say they only want your 'best'...imposing insane limits on even the pros...even if 1 out of 100 find this insulting then you did it wrong.  My point is that they didn't have to go down this path, in fact in today's world it makes ZERO sense to put limits on the artists (and even remotely risking insulting them) then to just use technology to accomplish your goals.

« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2016, 13:21 »
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But upload limits are not a serious issue or anything that would put me off. It seems like a useful measure to handle an exploding queue.

I completely disagree, why even remotely piss off artists when you don't have to. Too many uploads is an amazing problem to have...all they need to do is apply some technology to weed out the bad videos as bandwidth/storage is incredibly cheap.  Only a fool would limit the flow of inbound videos by insulting artists to only submit the "best"...as if they are not already submitting the "best"...besides pros in the space know that random oddball (not the 'best') videos get licensed all the time...Dissolve has gone mad if they think artists will jump through their hoops!
The recent number of posts re shutterstocks portfolio  indicates not everyone thinks we are all submitting only our best work. I'm not sure its the best way but why should we assume that every site is obliged to review everything we throw at them? Is it really so hard to submit a proportion of your work? I can't help feeling people are being a bit oversensitive here. You reckon artists are in such short supply that they will walk away.......wake up and smell the coffee as they say!
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2016, 13:39 »
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They should at least look at the clips. They can always turn them down with the usual: "lack of commercial appeal".

However, they have to pay someone to make that subjective decision. Which probably means they can't afford to.

« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2016, 13:55 »
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I'm not into video or Dissolve.  But isn't this just another case of the classic microstock problem: things inevitably get to the point where the agency is making good money, but the individual contributor can't?   Best case for the agency is to have every contributor in the world giving them just their best stuff.  And each of those contributors then makes diddly.   

In any business, there has to be a way for the suppliers to make money too, or they give up.  If Dissolve can't review all this material, wouldn't it have made sense to be more selective in approving contributors?  Then the ones who made the cut might be able to make enough for it to be worthwhile.   And they'd be less likely to post the same stuff on 10 other sites, further driving down prices.


« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2016, 13:56 »
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They should at least look at the clips. They can always turn them down with the usual: "lack of commercial appeal".

However, they have to pay someone to make that subjective decision. Which probably means they can't afford to.
Yeah they could easily reject 90% for some random reason  and nobody would be any the wiser ;-). I'm sure that never happens when an agency has a big queue

« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2016, 13:59 »
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I'm not into video or Dissolve.  But isn't this just another case of the classic microstock problem: things inevitably get to the point where the agency is making good money, but the individual contributor can't?   Best case for the agency is to have every contributor in the world giving them just their best stuff.  And each of those contributors then makes diddly.   

In any business, there has to be a way for the suppliers to make money too, or they give up.  If Dissolve can't review all this material, wouldn't it have made sense to be more selective in approving contributors?  Then the ones who made the cut might be able to make enough for it to be worthwhile.   And they'd be less likely to post the same stuff on 10 other sites, further driving down prices.
I doubt your last statement is true but that would be another approach which Photodune is trying...that has its faults too as it excludes equally good work and gives buyers less  choice. Its just their way of dealing with oversupply I don't think its meant to be insulting.

« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2016, 14:02 »
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I am not against upload limits. If this helps to get my files processed in time it is much better than having to wait 6 months for inspections. Dissolve is a very small agency, so maybe this is the best way forward for them. It also allows them to keep taking new contributors.

I have never applied to Dissolve, they got themselves a very unpleasant reputation when they first came here. Not sure, how they work with people now.

But upload limits are not a serious issue or anything that would put me off. It seems like a useful measure to handle an exploding queue.

Yes.

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« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2016, 14:11 »
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The recent number of posts re shutterstocks portfolio  indicates not everyone thinks we are all submitting only our best work. I'm not sure its the best way but why should we assume that every site is obliged to review everything we throw at them? Is it really so hard to submit a proportion of your work? I can't help feeling people are being a bit oversensitive here. You reckon artists are in such short supply that they will walk away.......wake up and smell the coffee as they say!
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i think sean is correct; irritating but not insulting.
dreamstime was insulting the moment they deleted the third of similars onwards...
but ss is the supremo for letting 2000 similars of everything from every angle without a blink.
i suppose i could have done the same thing but just uploading the whole shoot,
but i didn't want to cannibalize my port to make it look like
100k in 15 years instead of a fraction of that.

but really, i think the problem is with ftp, as if you had to upload singly
with the old html, i doubt if many would take the time to upload 1,000 a day of
tomato or marijuana on white .

« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2016, 14:56 »
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I don't see how limits are "insulting".  They may be frustrating.  You may have to edit your submissions tighter.  But I don't see that as "insulting".

+1.
Apparently contributors are not self-editing, hence the limits. Frankly, If I were on dissolve, I would be happy that they are at least explaining what they are going to do in an email blast...that's a heck of a lot more than the other sites do!

« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2016, 15:46 »
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However, they have to pay someone to make that subjective decision. Which probably means they can't afford to.

Ya'll are old school...a person to make a decision?  Are you living in the 1990s? Software can do much of the gruntwork and then there is international low cost labor to do the rest. 

Put it this way, if reviewing videos is your bottleneck and costing you too much then you are simply doing it wrong...and need to take better advantage of modern automation trends.

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Yeah they could easily reject 90% for some random reason  and nobody would be any the wiser ;-). I'm sure that never happens when an agency has a big queue

Yes, you get it...thank you! Instead...Dissolve decides to create this counterproductive confrontation with the artist...it's just so amateur and telling of the business acumen of the leadership.
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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2016, 03:28 »
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However, they have to pay someone to make that subjective decision. Which probably means they can't afford to.

Ya'll are old school...a person to make a decision?  Are you living in the 1990s? Software can do much of the gruntwork and then there is international low cost labor to do the rest. 

Put it this way, if reviewing videos is your bottleneck and costing you too much then you are simply doing it wrong...and need to take better advantage of modern automation trends.

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Yeah they could easily reject 90% for some random reason  and nobody would be any the wiser ;-). I'm sure that never happens when an agency has a big queue

Yes, you get it...thank you! Instead...Dissolve decides to create this counterproductive confrontation with the artist...it's just so amateur and telling of the business acumen of the leadership.
I guess I just don't get it.....the apparent use of automated reviewing at SS has gone down so well. They are actually being honest by sharing their business model. It seems more amateur to throw your toys out of the pram because you don't like their approach.

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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2016, 03:48 »
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I do not understand that we complain on one side of the flood of files and on the other we want there to be no upload limits. I do not understand.

I'm in favor of uploading only the best and avoiding the photos or simlar videos... and understand if any agencie benefits his exclusives.

Automatic reviews by bots... not please!

« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2016, 06:31 »
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In my humble opinion Dissolve is a bit of a lemon

« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2016, 07:21 »
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Here is my problem, they contacted me and asked for my content. I started uploading it and now bam I am slowed to a crawl to get my 6k files online, I am not going to mess with it at 25 clips a month!

« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2016, 08:14 »
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So you would be ready to wait 18 months to have your files inspected??

I have never heard of a software that can replace human inspections. I also don΄t see how that would be fair to the artists, I certainly wouldn΄t want mindless software to reject my files.

Dissolve is a tiny agency, places like SS or istock or Fotolia have hundreds of inspectors. Even if all the files submitted are perfect it can quickly become too much.

SS accepts more than one million new files a week (all file types). If Dissolve is being hit with huge numbers, it is best to cut it at the source.

If they really like your work, they will give the qualified people unlimited uploads.

It is their business after all.
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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2016, 10:12 »
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However, they have to pay someone to make that subjective decision. Which probably means they can't afford to.

Ya'll are old school...a person to make a decision?  Are you living in the 1990s? Software can do much of the gruntwork and then there is international low cost labor to do the rest. 

Put it this way, if reviewing videos is your bottleneck and costing you too much then you are simply doing it wrong...and need to take better advantage of modern automation trends.

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Yeah they could easily reject 90% for some random reason  and nobody would be any the wiser ;-). I'm sure that never happens when an agency has a big queue

Yes, you get it...thank you! Instead...Dissolve decides to create this counterproductive confrontation with the artist...it's just so amateur and telling of the business acumen of the leadership.

I find this confusing-you would rather upload 2500 clips and have it cut to 250 at random than be limited and have the opportunity to choose the 250 you submitted? 

Harvepino

« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2016, 11:33 »
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I've set my own personal monthly upload limit for Dissolve after the third month without a sale, while I saw sales even on MotionElements! ZERO

« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2016, 22:37 »
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Good prepared sessions. From one day of shooting could be easly 200-250 clips and if its two days session its 500. Simple.
I dont know how you edit your clips that 20-40 clips take you "few days". Slow PC? x286? :)

Or maybe you are the cannabis guy, flooding your port with any old clips?  ;)

Yeah :) You're welcome to check my portfolio Cathleen :)

Your photos and videos are of amazing quality!  You are one of the best.  Are you doing well on Videoblocks?


 

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