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Author Topic: Advise on DT Please beefore I upload to them.  (Read 13024 times)

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AVAVA

« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2008, 22:37 »
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Very Good People.

Best,
AVAVA


traveler1116

« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2008, 22:58 »
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Just so you know you cant take down your images for 6 months, everything else about DT I like.  This one policy really sucks though if you want to go exclusive at IS so be sure and plan ahead if you are considering it.

« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2008, 11:11 »
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Just so you know you cant take down your images for 6 months, everything else about DT I like.  This one policy really sucks though if you want to go exclusive at IS so be sure and plan ahead if you are considering it.

Thanks for the info!

I will never go exclusive with any site unless EVERY photographer on the site is exclusive. That would be a site to create! Something different that is not "I got that image also" Plus this site would need a strong track record of sales, etc.

Once I upload to a site (any) I have no intention of removing my portfolio even if they sell very slowly.

As far as the sites that have you submit 10 images and wait for some zit face kid that thinks he/she is the only person in the world that knows anything about photography and they can reject one and have me resubmit in 30 days. They can go fly a kite!

On an additional note: I like your DT port. Nice variety and I noticed they do take similar images, flowers and other things many other folks said they would not take. I'm glad you had a link to your port as I was able to "see" who you are and I place a much higher value of your oppinion over those that do not link sites to their post. I bet some do not even have a site to link!  ;D

Thanks again,
-Larry

« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2008, 16:10 »
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Larry,

When we started out about a year ago, I went through the same thought process as you did.  If they don't like my port, they can go fly a kite!!
But, in retrospect, I'm glad I changed my mind.
The sites we had to knock at their door a few times, well, we're in solid now.  The test is the hardest you will have to face with their company, usually the regular reviews are much more relaxed.
We had our port at a few of the small companies, and I quickly closed them out when I realized that:
1. There are only a handful of customers that use this site
2. There are only a handful of images that have sold on this site more than 20 times
3. There is NO WAY I'm going to collect the $4.50 I made on that EL sale, because there isn't any traffic, besides, $4.50 for an EL?? what???
4. Admin is literally unreachable

Sure, we have a few sites that I mess around with, some I'm giving a chance.  But there are others that are sinkholes, and they need to be avoided!

StockXpert is worth the wait, remember, they just sold to Getty. Once the dust settles, it may be much harder to get in..
SS is definitely worth the trouble.  Keep knocking at this door until someone lets ya in, the party is loud, sometimes you gotta knock a few times :)
IS, well, I remain neutral.  We got crapped on along with everyone else in the last best match change, but two things are happening now...  We are getting more images accepted per submission, and we are getting more regular sales again, so I have hope. 

Good luck!!

« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2009, 09:08 »
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Thanks to all for the help and valuable information on DT. I'm getting close to signing up with them and I have one more question.

All people require a model release even if their back is to the camera. That I understand .... but how about if they are a long ways from the camera?  (Like this sample I found on DT.)

There must be some point where a release is not required on long distance shots.   Yes?

http://www.dreamstime.com/golf-image2870379

To the Photographer, I posted a link to your port here without permission. Hope it is OK. ( ..and I like your shot!)

-Larry
« Last Edit: February 01, 2009, 09:10 by Lcjtripod »

« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2009, 09:12 »
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Thanks to all for the help and valuable information on DT. I'm getting close to signing up with them and I have one more question.

All people require a model release even if their back is to the camera. That I understand .... but how about if they are a long ways from the camera?  (Like this sample I found on DT.)

There must be some point where a release is not required on long distance shots.   Yes?

http://www.dreamstime.com/golf-image2870379

To the Photographer, I posted a link to your port here without permission. Hope it is OK. ( ..and I like your shot!)

-Larry

If you are sure the person in the photo can't recognise themselves, you should be OK.  The sites seem to have different rules on this, some are more strict than others.  I used to upload some photos with people in them without an MR but now I try to clone them out.

« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2009, 09:15 »
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DT are really strange with their model releases.  I have put up bodies without heads and attatched a model relaease only to have it refused because it didn't need one.   This is probably my only critisism of DT, I think it is ludicrous to have to reupload an image with somebody in it just  because it has a model release.

« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 23:40 »
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There must be some point where a release is not required on long distance shots.   Yes?

The basic rule is, can a person recognize himself on a shot full size? The face rule went a while ago.

traveler1116

« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2009, 00:12 »
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I had a few images rejected at different times from different series' because I did include a model release.  Mainly hands and arms but since I already had the release for other images I submitted it, I'm not sure why but they rejected them for having the release.  Sorry I didn't read through all the info but you should try to keep your accepted % high because it affects search placement and how many images you can upload, I really wish I knew that when I started, the last 6 months I have 90% but overall 65% because of all those vacation pics when I first started.  I figured who cares if they get rejected it doesn't matter, it does on this site.

lisafx

« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2009, 12:19 »
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Congrats on your choice to upload to Dreamstime, Larry!   It is my personal favorite site for all the reasons that have already been mentioned.  I'm sure you will have a great experience with them :)

« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2009, 23:06 »
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Larry, I think you need to sign up under me. LOL I dont have a referral for DT.  :o
I made a $20.30 sale today on DT for one of my images. I was excited. YEY!
You will like DT They are wonderful. They are on of my highest sales.


« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2009, 12:39 »
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UPDATE: Friday the 13th

I did it! I signed up with DT today and I gave a referral to the person that helped me the most.

I want to thank all of you for all the help and suggestions. I did read them all and I checked your portfolio if you had a link for it.

It will be 127 hours from now for the images to be on site, then you can see who was the person I gave the referral to and as I will be uploading about 2,000 images, they should be able to make a few bucks from that.

I will upload slowly until I know what they will not reject.

Lesson: Be nice and help someone as you may very well be rewarded in cash and returned kindness.

To all,  again thanks!

-Larry

« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2009, 14:11 »
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Thanks to all for the help and valuable information on DT. I'm getting close to signing up with them and I have one more question.

All people require a model release even if their back is to the camera. That I understand .... but how about if they are a long ways from the camera?  (Like this sample I found on DT.)

There must be some point where a release is not required on long distance shots.   Yes?

http://www.dreamstime.com/golf-image2870379

To the Photographer, I posted a link to your port here without permission. Hope it is OK. ( ..and I like your shot!)

-Larry


If people are recognizable at 100% magnification yes you need a model release

« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2009, 14:18 »
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DT in my experience seems a little more willing to take "experimental type" shots than other sites (Shutterstock, iStock, etc). My approval rating there just keeps getting better, luckily my style seems to jive with what they are looking for most of the time.


 

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