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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: ichiro17 on May 29, 2006, 13:51

Title: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: ichiro17 on May 29, 2006, 13:51
I don't know if anyone has noticed but Dreamstime has just kind of gotten involved in a 'macro' environment as well as royalty free.  This could spell out big payouts for those with pictures in demand.  There's 4 new options available - 2 of which are macro-esque in that pictures can be used on items being sold and such over the web and as products. 

I'm not too HUGE on all the happenings of the micro world, but I haven't seen this happen elsewhere, which kind of indicates that there might be a movement up and coming soon towards hybrid sites of some sort.  I have no idea if I'm making sense, I've been at work too long and the heat in Toronto is ridiculous - its 35 degrees outside...like whoa.

All I do know now is that earning potential is through the roof.  This is my opinion obviously, but the amount of money that can be earned is fairly greater now if the concept takes off.  I know that you can earn 65% on Alamy, but for the average microstocker who's just trying to build up for that kind of stuff, this could be a good boost.  As well, Alamy isn't that accessible yet (until the FTP comes in). 

So, I do like this option and I like the possibilities.  Hopefully it works out because its a win-win for everyone.
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: madelaide on May 29, 2006, 16:53
ichiro,

Extended licenses are available at other sites (BigStock, IS, Fotolia are some that come to my mind) with variations about prices and restrictions.  The biggest difference I see is the "sell your rights" options, which I don't see any chance of happening in my portfolio anyway. 

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: ichiro17 on May 29, 2006, 16:55
I didn't really notice that there, but then again, the sites you mentioned to nothign at all anyways so I don't pay much attention to them.  So we'll see how it goes with this
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: phildate on May 29, 2006, 19:20
One Extended License sale a week will be great - however, I am sure they will be very rare. It is so difficult for sites/photographers to track the usage of their photos and most designers probably know this. They will have to be very honest to buy at an Extended License or from a major corporation that doesn't want to risk the negative puclicity that would go with being sued. Anyway, fingers crossed for a $150 download soon!
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: Kiya on May 30, 2006, 07:29
I was contacted by DT last week about a $100 extended license before EL officially went into effect, and I received $50. Funny thing is, it was for one of those images that I hesitated to submit, didn't think it would make it through.  I have a question about SR license.  As you have to remove images from all sites within 72 hours with a SR sale, for future reference, which sites don't allow you to disable images? 
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: ichiro17 on May 30, 2006, 08:05
It will probably be very difficult to keep track of people who are using your photos, but why take the chance putting it on the internet or in print or on a product?  Its a very dangerous situation because copyright infringement these days is being enforced pretty vigorously.  Alamy seems to be able to keep up and they are rights managed, so I don't see how this will not work.  As well, I think that they will be quite successful in the long term because they are a cheaper alternative to Alamy, and it probably gets the job done just the same.
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: CJPhoto on May 30, 2006, 08:15
Alamy keeps track as they know exactly what has been sold to whom and for what purpose (due to being exclusive shots and maanaging the rights).

With microstock, it could have been sold by one of a number of sites all with differing rights.  For example, SS couldn't pursue an potential copyright as they potentially have the correct licence purchased from DT or even the photographer personally.  And more likely than not, the user will be some small company that isn't worth suing.
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: ichiro17 on May 30, 2006, 08:49
Alamy is not exclusive as you can put the same files on micro and Alamy at the same time.  And if you have a shot of something that is only RF but its on something that is being sold, then you have a case - no matter who is selling it - and especially if you tell the sites that its only RF or whatever.    And, if the product they are selling is making money, it is worth suing because even if you drive that company bankrupt (if you win), you liquidate and take the money plus the punitive damages usually awarded or you get a piece of the pie...or whatever...its more complicated than this, but I don't really feel like whipping out the business law textbook and doing research  :P
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: madelaide on May 30, 2006, 17:20
As you have to remove images from all sites within 72 hours with a SR sale, for future reference, which sites don't allow you to disable images? 
That's a good point.  I didn't see this being discussed there, but in fact some sites don't let you remove images before a certain time. 

I know that it doesn't matter if you have sold the image before elsewhere, you can still apply for SR.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: pixelbrat on May 30, 2006, 17:39
I know that Bigstock won't allow you to remove any until 90 days has passed since you uploaded them.  I really hate this because I'm hardly making any money there and stopped uploading to them for this reason.  As soon as my 90 days is up I'm yanking all of my stuff from their site.  I'm not sure about the other sites.
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: Kiya on May 30, 2006, 19:27
Thanks Pixelbrat, I just registered at Bigstock.  I guess I'll stop before I get started there.
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: fintastique on May 31, 2006, 12:01
Featurepics also have the 90 day rule.

i think if I ever reach $30 I will think about taking my photos off Bigstock, a bit of a shock today got $5 because a referred photographer reached 75 photos accepted.
Title: Re: Dreamstime's latest change
Post by: CJPhoto on May 31, 2006, 12:12
a bit of a shock today got $5 because a referred photographer reached 75 photos accepted.
I got $5 too.  Good to see it works since there is no way of knowing.