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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: pauloresende on April 24, 2009, 07:45

Title: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: pauloresende on April 24, 2009, 07:45
I need some advice. I upload some vector the other day and to my surprise  today i find that the one you find bellow was rejected. This vector is also in other site no one rejected the vector.
I now that rejections are part of the game and we must live with it.
But the problem is that i donīt agree with the reason. If Dreamstime said that they donīt like the vector or they donīt because they donīt like dragons...i can live with that! But the reason is:
"Poor execution, please pay more attention to detail. The technical execution of this collage needs improvement in order to best serve the concept of the image. For illustrations, please check for: poorly traced images, too simplistic, faceted curves, aliased lines, distorted pixels on lines as well as on various textures and images used within the illustration, moiree due to downsampling."


Please see the image below and give you opinion.
  (http://www.ilustracoes.net/dreamstime/dragonhead.jpg)    (http://www.ilustracoes.net/dreamstime/dragonhead1.jpg) 
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: pauloresende on April 24, 2009, 08:52
No one give me a little opinion? :(
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Magnum on April 24, 2009, 09:17
Itīs clearly a misstake.  E-mail support.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: pauloresende on April 24, 2009, 09:28
Tank you for the opinion.
I resubmit the file, now wait and see what happens.

Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Whiz on April 24, 2009, 12:38
It looks great to me. Unless you have a lot of open paths or something? Then again, Dreamstime may think that your illustration is too artistic. Therefore, it would not sell well as a stock image. You could try Zazzle or something similar if it's rejected for this reason.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Allen on April 24, 2009, 14:28
Nice Image! ;D  If I could do vectors and draw dragons like you, my portfolio woud be full of them!  Imagine, Dragon Suffering From Sore Stomach, Business Dragon Got A Raise, Dragon Holding Up Stock Market Crash.

I wonder if typical ideas about business would sell if a dragon was involved.  I would think so, because everything is cooler when you throw in a dragon. :)

That's why I have soo many friends. ;)

Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: GeoPappas on April 24, 2009, 15:42
I think that it is a great illustration.  I wish that I could draw like that.

As was previously stated, we can't see the paths used to create this image, so it is hard to comment on that.

IMHO, it would have more demand if you would remove the background from the dragon.  In other words, leave it isolated on white.  If you want to add a background, then I would at least remove the shield and leave the red sunburst background.  I don't know how someone would use the image as is (i.e., with the dragon on the shield).

Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Inga on April 24, 2009, 15:52
yes, why not make two images of it? A shield and a dragon?
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: madelaide on April 24, 2009, 16:16
They look very well executed to me.  Unless there is some open path or another such issue, as suggested by Whiz, I see no reason for the rejection.  It is certainly not simplistic.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Magnum on April 24, 2009, 16:23
I think that it is a great illustration.  I wish that I could draw like that.

As was previously stated, we can't see the paths used to create this image, so it is hard to comment on that.

IMHO, it would have more demand if you would remove the background from the dragon.  In other words, leave it isolated on white.  If you want to add a background, then I would at least remove the shield and leave the red sunburst background.  I don't know how someone would use the image as is (i.e., with the dragon on the shield).



Itīs a vector.  Customer can remove the background in 2 sec. But I agree.     Then thereīs the Jpg. I know :o
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: cidepix on April 24, 2009, 16:48
I need some advice. I upload some vector the other day and to my surprise  today i find that the one you find bellow was rejected. This vector is also in other site no one rejected the vector.
I now that rejections are part of the game and we must live with it.
But the problem is that i donīt agree with the reason. If Dreamstime said that they donīt like the vector or they donīt because they donīt like dragons...i can live with that! But the reason is:
"Poor execution, please pay more attention to detail. The technical execution of this collage needs improvement in order to best serve the concept of the image. For illustrations, please check for: poorly traced images, too simplistic, faceted curves, aliased lines, distorted pixels on lines as well as on various textures and images used within the illustration, moiree due to downsampling."


Please see the image below and give you opinion.
  ([url]http://www.ilustracoes.net/dreamstime/dragonhead.jpg[/url])    ([url]http://www.ilustracoes.net/dreamstime/dragonhead1.jpg[/url]) 


Paulo,

There is definitely a mistake! Or some open paths! If you submit it again, it should go through!
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: pauloresende on April 25, 2009, 05:04
Tank you all for the nice words.
There are no open paths or some technical issue with the vector. The file is already in some other sites. If there was something wrong with the file i don't post it here. The one thing that make me made about, is the fact that they said that is "poor execution".
I now that I'm not e very good illustrator, but i also now that in technical terms the vector is fine!

As the shield issue i make 2 versions, one with it and another without. I'm also prefer without but the buyer can bye a 2 in 1 ;)
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: madelaide on April 25, 2009, 16:15
Paulo,

The "poor execution" seems to be just a part of a larger ready paragraph the reviewer pick.  I know it is annoying, rather rude.  I once complained in StockXpert about "please upload better quality images" or something like that.  This isn't something one should say to someone with a good acceptance rate.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: cthoman on April 26, 2009, 11:52
It looks good. The only thing that I can see is that the tongue doesn't really attach to anything and is kind of floating in the mouth. Also, some of your shapes look a little rough. It could be that some of your shadow shapes don't line up right or overlap other edges. The reviewer might have seen something when zoomed in at 800%.

Overall, I think it's a great looking illustration, but it's hard to tell about the execution without digging into the file real close.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: karensuki on April 27, 2009, 11:59
That is an awesome vector...

Basically don't take it to heart about the rejection from Dreamstime... I get the same reason for most of my rejections. Bigstockphoto accepted one of the rejected illustrations from Dreamstime and sold it within one hour of it being approved.


My biggest guess is that Dreamstime is trying to out guess the market. I do wish that they would fix their reasons for rejecting illustrations to something a little less rude and more specific...
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Blahh Bamm! on April 27, 2009, 13:22
looks pretty good to me! The only critique I could add would be the way the shield comes together at the bottom, I think it might look better if it came together as a sharp point.

I bet they accept it if you resubmit
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: karensuki on April 28, 2009, 10:49
 ;)After nearly a week I got a reply from dreamstime support about what is exactly wrong with my illustrations... part of my work has raster artifacts from when they are compressed and converted to jpgs...

Email the support team at dreamstime and ask them to give a specific reason for their rejection.

I actually did not know you could get artifacts on illustrations. I found an article at scantips.com/basic9jb.html that explain how to spot the artifacts in your jpgs... I am currently collecting tips on how to reduce these artifacts on my own work...

Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: pauloresende on April 29, 2009, 14:59
I email them also, and iīm waiting for the reply. But the vector was rejected again and because i donīt resubmit but instead i submit, they get my a notification and if i do it again they suspend my account  ???

Iīm there since Feb 2007 and i never had any problem and now this....
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: CydM on May 19, 2009, 23:32
It looks good. The only thing that I can see is that the tongue doesn't really attach to anything and is kind of floating in the mouth. Also, some of your shapes look a little rough. It could be that some of your shadow shapes don't line up right or overlap other edges. The reviewer might have seen something when zoomed in at 800%.

Overall, I think it's a great looking illustration, but it's hard to tell about the execution without digging into the file real close.

Nice catch.

I still think it looks good.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Milinz on May 20, 2009, 04:46
I think that is something where you made mistake... Look at thongue of that dragon... Quite abstract...

I have such rejections from iStock on regular basis ;-)

Nevertheless, no matter about thongue (designer can tweak that),  it is good illustration.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: pauloresende on May 20, 2009, 05:23
The vector is already on line.
The problem was in the JPG and the conversion. I save the image with anti-alias but in Illustrator CS4 there are a little problem and if i save the image with 4000 pixels, the image have in some parts artifacts. I solve the problem saving it with 3500 px.
The funny is that this problem is only in this vector and only in some parts of the image here the anti-alias donīt work...
But is already solved.
Title: Re: Dreamstime rejection. Need opinion on vector!
Post by: Milinz on May 20, 2009, 10:03
The vector is already on line.
The problem was in the JPG and the conversion. I save the image with anti-alias but in Illustrator CS4 there are a little problem and if i save the image with 4000 pixels, the image have in some parts artifacts. I solve the problem saving it with 3500 px.
The funny is that this problem is only in this vector and only in some parts of the image here the anti-alias donīt work...
But is already solved.

Congrats!