Author Topic: Dreamstime Revealing Contributors' Real Names and Location on the Website (Read 19528 times)

Dodie · « **Reply #25 on:** September 25, 2016, 05:30 »

Quote from: Nica on September 25, 2016, 03:36

I agree. It's just one part of the puzzle how contributors are treated by agencies.

The point IMHO is not the brought question disclosure of personal data or not but the attempt of an agency to take away the inherent right to every single person to decide him-/herself where to publish personal data. It's a No-Go that an agency publishes full names and home location to people (buyers) we even have not the slightest clue about. That's absolutely not acceptable.

BTW in Germany we have the Bundesdatenschutzgesetz (Law to protect personal data). It might be one of the most severe laws in this field. It's simply unlawful to disclose any information without the written permission of the person.

Anyway if an agency seems to be dying it seems to me counterproductive to chase away contributors. Obviously ports had already been deleted.

I totally agree with you.
Besides, my country, Romania is well know for having the most efficient and unscrupulous hackers (and thieves) in the world (shame or not). We are constantly warned on TV and news not to disclose our personal data, except to governamental entities. Now an agency from the same region tells me to do the oposite, that's ridiculous.

Many simple-minded people have disclosed their data to retailers on those application forms for loyalty cards, points cards, which also entail agreements by the store concerning customer privacy. The end result is that more and more bank accounts are emptyed day by day, not to mention phone calls and emails.

Everyone who wants to build a buisiness around his/her name, is free to do it but let me decide what I want for myself.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 25, 2016, 05:46 »

Quote from: Dodie on September 25, 2016, 05:21

Quote from: Pauws99 on September 25, 2016, 02:34
Out of curiosity do we know the names of the Directors and location of their homes?

I understand this is rhetorical question but theirs is as easy to find out as ours.

Serban Enache, CEO and co-founder - http://blog.digitalmedialicensing.org/?tag=dreamstime
with a little more digging on google, facebook, twitter and telephone companies, you can find out everything you want to know.
location: Bucharest, Romania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamstime

Actually I was genuinely curious just wondered if its easily available on their site. I'm not overly concerned but it just seems poor form to change things without telling people.

Dodie · « **Reply #27 on:** September 25, 2016, 06:03 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on September 25, 2016, 05:46

Quote from: Dodie on September 25, 2016, 05:21
Quote from: Pauws99 on September 25, 2016, 02:34
Out of curiosity do we know the names of the Directors and location of their homes?

I understand this is rhetorical question but theirs is as easy to find out as ours.

Serban Enache, CEO and co-founder - http://blog.digitalmedialicensing.org/?tag=dreamstime
with a little more digging on google, facebook, twitter and telephone companies, you can find out everything you want to know.
location: Bucharest, Romania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamstime
Actually I was genuinely curious just wondered if its easily available on their site. I'm not overly concerned but it just seems poor form to change things without telling people.

I agree.

Nica · « **Reply #28 on:** September 25, 2016, 14:54 »

Quote from: Dodie on September 25, 2016, 05:30

let me decide what I want for myself.

yep!!! I can't agree more

LDV81 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 25, 2016, 17:25 »

Contributors' names and locations were "confidential information", at least it was labeled as such on DTs website. And now what, out of the blue, they decided that the right way to handle "confidential information" is to reveal it to the whole world, just like this, without even asking the affected people.

Until now, I perceived Achilles as an intelligent person. After this stunt I changed my mind. Hard to trust these guys anymore.

For the sake of "transparency" and "trust" they should also publish the entire list of their customers with their locations and the list of files that they have licensed, without asking them for permission. Let me guess, ain't gonna happen...

nycnyc · « **Reply #30 on:** September 25, 2016, 21:04 »

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Just to play devil's advocate here... Does an agency have more responsibility to help someone maintain some sort of subterfuge or to be more transparent about the people/businesses that provide artwork to their company?

Where is the "subterfuge" here? There are plenty of valid reasons why people choose to protect their anonymity on the Internet.
DT asked for contributors' feedback and it was overwhelmingly negative. I, for one, I'm still hoping the company will do the right thing, and decide against revealing everyone's name and location.

angelawaye · « **Reply #31 on:** September 25, 2016, 21:29 »

I looked at my page and it says "confidential info" - how are buyers seeing this? Did you check your settings? I definitely don't want people seeing all my info... Screw transparency. No other agency shows it ...

cthoman · « **Reply #32 on:** September 25, 2016, 21:58 »

Quote from: nycnyc on September 25, 2016, 21:04

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Just to play devil's advocate here... Does an agency have more responsibility to help someone maintain some sort of subterfuge or to be more transparent about the people/businesses that provide artwork to their company?

Where is the "subterfuge" here? There are plenty of valid reasons why people choose to protect their anonymity on the Internet.
DT asked for contributors' feedback and it was overwhelmingly negative. I, for one, I'm still hoping the company will do the right thing, and decide against revealing everyone's name and location.

The first couple reasons mentioned in the thread were about wanting to hide from employers or not wanting people to know they were in microstock. There are a million great reasons to want to be anonymous, but those made me chuckle a bit. That said, I can see the other side too of buyers having good reasons to want to know about contributors. I guess it's probably just easier to make it optional.

Nica · « **Reply #33 on:** September 26, 2016, 02:16 »

Does anyone know how to delete the entire port without deactivation every single image?

Dodie · « **Reply #34 on:** September 26, 2016, 02:44 »

Quote from: Nica on September 26, 2016, 02:16

Does anyone know how to delete the entire port without deactivation every single image?

I've just read the FAQ and you can only deactivate your files (some of them). It takes 12 month after deactivation and inactivity to delete your account.
Although, I've seen some exclusives with recently deactivated accounts, always with 4 images still shown. I think they asked DT to do that.

There is a new posting from Achille on their forum. They reverted to the old version but they are cooking something in secret:
"We will revert this info for the initial batch as well, while we will work to bring the best decision for everyone."
They are not trustworthy any more

Dodie · « **Reply #35 on:** September 26, 2016, 03:02 »

Quote from: cthoman on September 25, 2016, 21:58

The first couple reasons mentioned in the thread were about wanting to hide from employers or not wanting people to know they were in microstock. There are a million great reasons to want to be anonymous, but those made me chuckle a bit. That said, I can see the other side too of buyers having good reasons to want to know about contributors. I guess it's probably just easier to make it optional.

Could you please name just one of them?

I have (just deleted) my website link on my personal info page in case anyone needs more insight about me, so it's not a secret but I don't like to be bullied by anyone.
It is not as much about revealing this info but about elementary human rights like privacy.

Nica · « **Reply #36 on:** September 26, 2016, 05:46 »

Quote from: Dodie on September 26, 2016, 02:44

Quote from: Nica on September 26, 2016, 02:16
Does anyone know how to delete the entire port without deactivation every single image?
... I think they asked DT to do that.

There is a new posting from Achille on their forum. They reverted to the old version but they are cooking something in secret:
"We will revert this info for the initial batch as well, while we will work to bring the best decision for everyone."
They are not trustworthy any more

unacceptable for me.

Leaving it to DT deleting my images I wouldn't have any control on my images and account any more.

In the past they sold some of my deactivated images. They didn't give any satisfying explanation for this although I asked them to do so.

I am cautious $:-\$

Dodie · « **Reply #37 on:** September 26, 2016, 07:24 »

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I wouldn't have any control on my images and account

I know but you don't have control anyway. Apparently most agencies (if not all) have changed delete to disable. Once in, there is no way out.

cthoman · « **Reply #38 on:** September 26, 2016, 08:29 »

Quote from: Dodie on September 26, 2016, 03:02

Quote from: cthoman on September 25, 2016, 21:58
The first couple reasons mentioned in the thread were about wanting to hide from employers or not wanting people to know they were in microstock. There are a million great reasons to want to be anonymous, but those made me chuckle a bit. That said, I can see the other side too of buyers having good reasons to want to know about contributors. I guess it's probably just easier to make it optional.
Could you please name just one of them?

I have (just deleted) my website link on my personal info page in case anyone needs more insight about me, so it's not a secret but I don't like to be bullied by anyone.
It is not as much about revealing this info but about elementary human rights like privacy.

I would think some buyers just like to know who they are buying from or want to follow them on social media. Others might prefer to work with local artists from their city, state or country. Some may want to contact the artist first because they want the option of additional freelance work in the same style or to hire them to make slight changes. I try to make myself easily available, so I get contacted for a variety of freelance work and different people sometimes just popping in to say hi.

mboy · « **Reply #39 on:** September 26, 2016, 11:47 »

I upload travel photos only and can't see how my location will help the potential buyer

Dodie · « **Reply #40 on:** September 26, 2016, 12:17 »

Now they came up with a new reason saying that we "don't see the big picture" which would be:
- some exclusives are lying, uploading to other places too;
- some contributors are thieves and upload other peoples pictures too;

So, it's not the buyers any more. I don't understand what has this to do with my name.
We all had to upload a copy of a valid government issued photo ID at the moment of sign up, didn't we all?
So how can't they identify those liars?

anathaya · « **Reply #41 on:** September 26, 2016, 20:03 »

Quote from: LDV81 on September 23, 2016, 09:01

Some people have also businesses in other fields and might not want to be associated with the micros.

Right, I would close my port if any of the agencies that I submit reveal my real name. It's better if they let us select the name we want to show in copyright statement, like SS do. Unfortunately, agencies like 123RF show username in copyright statement (but it's still better than showing real name).

Albert Martin · « **Reply #42 on:** October 03, 2016, 03:20 »

Mere BS. Some people are selling their stock as RM and this with DT revealing real name is pure rip-off again! Not to mention that some people are selling under pseudonym because they must keep low profile because of various mob-related subjects... E.G. various theifs and extortionist or even ex wifes who just wait to get their hands in authors pockets!

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