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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: Poncke on September 01, 2012, 02:37
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I just noticed this on the side of the page
Site Earnings Rating
Top Tier - Big 4
Shutterstock 100
iStock 50.4
Fotolia 33.9
DepositPhotos 23.2
Middle Tier
Dreamstime 23
Thats a major upset, no? Expected maybe, but I am still surprised. Also DP doesnt seem to do that well for me, with almost 500 photos online. The fact that they made top tier surprises me even more.
However, this is the first time in 5 months I see a major shift on that list.
The next big downwards shift might come in January when 123 lowers their royalties and people drop them?
I also noticed the drop of BS which is making sense. I always figured they were positioned too high on the list.
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I'm really surprised about that. DT has dropped way down for me but still gives me 8x more earnings than Deposit and Bigstock and 123rf give me 2-3 times more than Deposit.
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It's FT for me, down to 7th place last month. Really though how relevant is the designation top tier/middle tier/low earners?
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I think we've jumped the gun on early analysis of that list in the past. Give more people time to weigh in and you'll probably see DT and DP switch places back to where they're supposed to be.
Whoops... looks like it just happened.
My own rankings would be this way:
SS
FT
DT
IS
123
DP
CanStockPhoto
BP
SF
GL
VR
CR
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Gotcha... I jumped the gun...
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It's FT for me, down to 7th place last month. Really though how relevant is the designation top tier/middle tier/low earners?
Are you uploading much lately? Over half my sales are on images uploaded in the last couple of months.
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Dt on the slide dp on the rise but Dt still many times the income right now.
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DT has been pretty stable for me. Where I've seen a change is the growth of 123RF and DP, and slow growth at PD. Last month my order was SS, 123RF, DP, iS, PD, DT. A big factor in my change is that DT has upload limits. The others don't, aside from iS where I stopped uploading ages ago.
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For me its
SS
123
FT
CanStockPhoto
DP
DT - but stopped uploading because of their ridiculous review process and upload system
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For me, DT is solidly in 2nd place while IS sets a new low each month. Earning 3x IS on Canstock and 4x on BigStock
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How do we place vote again? When I hit "more poll results" I go straight to the Forum page with all categories displayed.
Edit: okay, there it is on the top under polls. I could vote, but the first page is blank (I.E)
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I'm not surprised by this. DT is on the high end of pricing, especially for files with a high ranking. People are very aware of pricing options these days, more so than ever before. A few years ago, some buyers didn't know that microstock existed outside of istock. Now it's a different story. So no wonder people are leaving DT like they are istock.
My top 8 are:
SS
GR
FT
DT
Veer
123RF
istock
GL
DT and FT switched places for me. I suspect that slide will continue. Veer is coming on like a bat out of hell for me. BME in August by a lot. GR is a big surprise, too. That week of 70% royalties was nice, but even without that GR would still sit comfortably in 2nd place for me.
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How do we place vote again? When I hit "more poll results" I go straight to the Forum page with all categories displayed.
Edit: okay, there it is on the top under polls. I could vote, but the first page is blank (I.E)
There must be an IE bug I have to work out :S
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It's FT for me, down to 7th place last month. Really though how relevant is the designation top tier/middle tier/low earners?
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I am starting to have a persecution complex on Fotolia. My overall rank is 35 and my 7 day rank is 635! Even considering that there may be some talented new sellers or some existing contributors have stepped up their game a lot, that kind of drop seems unlikely to happen organically.
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How do we place vote again? When I hit "more poll results" I go straight to the Forum page with all categories displayed.
Edit: okay, there it is on the top under polls. I could vote, but the first page is blank (I.E)
There must be an IE bug I have to work out :S
I have the same problem in Chrome
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How do we place vote again? When I hit "more poll results" I go straight to the Forum page with all categories displayed.
Edit: okay, there it is on the top under polls. I could vote, but the first page is blank (I.E)
There must be an IE bug I have to work out :S
I have the same problem in Chrome
ok thanks, I'll try to figure out a fix on monday
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... DT .... but still gives me 8x more earnings than Deposit and Bigstock and 123rf give me 2-3 times more than Deposit.
+1
the power of depositphotos somehow seems to be way overstated here on msg.
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the power of depositphotos somehow seems to be way overstated here on msg.
I believe you're wrong about that. Assuming everyone has been honest about their results, it just suggests that DP performs differently for different groups of submitters. The poll tracks with my own experience, except that lately DP has outperformed DT. I attribute that to DT's upload limits. Your mileage may differ.
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the power of depositphotos somehow seems to be way overstated here on msg.
I believe you're wrong about that. Assuming everyone has been honest about their results, it just suggests that DP performs differently for different groups of submitters. The poll tracks with my own experience, except that lately DP has outperformed DT. I attribute that to DT's upload limits. Your mileage may differ.
I'd agree with that. Fotolia for some is down in 7th place while for others it's in first place. The results on the right are a 3 month average but if you look at the graph http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?page=PollResults (http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?page=PollResults) which shows each month's raw data, DepositPhotos is really on the rise.
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Dreamstime is still one of my Big 4, but their performance is falling too much lately.
My TOP 8:
1) Shutter
2) Istock
3) Fotolia
4) Dreamstime
5) Deposit
6) Canstock
7) 123RF
8) Photodune
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Dreamstime is still one of my Big 4, but their performance is falling too much lately.
My TOP 8:
1) Shutter
2) Istock
3) Fotolia
4) Dreamstime
5) Deposit
6) Canstock
7) 123RF
8) Photodune
I have a scenario that just seems warped:
SS: 800-1k a month
IS: $600 a month (IS + TS)
DT: ~$150 a month
All others (FT, BigStock, DP, PD, CanStockPhoto, 123) well below DT by $50-$100 bucks.