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« on: August 04, 2006, 05:58 »
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As the subject title says, DT now accepts Vector formats, but they are also the first agency to accept RAW formats. You will also receive a higher payout for these formats (see below).

What do you guys and gals think of this (especially the RAW format)?

Here are the new formats that they accept:

Vector Formats:
cdr Corel Vector Graphic Drawing
ai Illustrator Vector Graphic
eps Encapsulated PostScript

RAW Formats:
crw Canon RAW
dng Digital Negative Format
nef Nikon RAW
raf Fuji CCD-RAW Graphic File
dcr Kodak Digital Camera Raw Image File
mrw Minolta Dimage Raw Image File
orf Olympus Digital Camera Raw Image File
srf Sony DSC-F828 Raw Image File
pef Pentax *ist D RAW File
j6i Ricoh Digital Camera File
x3f Sigma Camera RAW Picture File
pmp Sony DSC-F1 Cyber-shot
cr2 Canon RAW (new version)
cmt Chinon ES-1000 Digital Camera

Here are the new prices & royalties:

http://www.dreamstime.com/sellimages

And here is the announcement thread:

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_5156
« Last Edit: August 04, 2006, 06:14 by GeoPappas »


« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2006, 06:30 »
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Raw?  Urrr, OK. 

Dosn't effect me as I rarely shoot raw, but it seems an odd thing to do...  I assume one of their developers has been playing with dcraw and thought it would be neat.

How many people will have stock worthy images out of the camera?  Or does PS CS save back to raw? 

I think I'll sit this one out, just seems odd to me to be honest...

Cheers, Me.

« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 08:10 »
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I could understand Tiff, but not raw. 

will work for some things but if there are any logos etc that need cloning, that cant be done in raw (can it).  I assume taht when you adjust white balance etc in raw, these settings (which can be changed with no harm to photo) can be save to the raw photo, much like the incamera defulst settings?? (not a raw user yet)

« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 11:47 »
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Hey what about the illustrators?

Couldn't find any instructions about uploading eps files, tried FTPing some eps files but they haven't reached unfinished files yet.

A lot of photographers at DT weren't happy about uploading RAW their digital negative.

« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 14:35 »
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Hi Steve!
You have to upload the vector file editing a previous accepted jpg of the same file. Its a little odd, I think that they are the only agency with a system like that.
I uploaded a few and got a message that says that the eps file is pending review.

« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2006, 17:46 »
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Can both EPS and AI files be uploaded for the same JPEG? I haven't seen restrictions yet, such as software version, for compatibility issues, nor if all the restrictions IS gives apply at DT as well.

Regards,
Adelaide
« Last Edit: August 04, 2006, 17:48 by madelaide »

« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2006, 03:33 »
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Thanks Erdosain

Just uploaded my eps files to DT. Hopefully they will streamline the process next time I might try FTPing the jpeg and eps file at the same time.

« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2006, 16:23 »
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yeah that is a bit odd accepting raw files but not tiff.

Tiff has no quality loss either, and allows for a finished product.  I guess if the buyer gets the raw file they know it hasn't been saves as a jpg ten times then back to a tiff or something... not sure.

Another point however, for tiff, is that by NOT allowing tiff files they are locking themselves out of being able to accept files that have had brand name cloning, or compisitions of numerous images.

« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2006, 18:15 »
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Another point however, for tiff, is that by NOT allowing tiff files they are locking themselves out of being able to accept files that have had brand name cloning, or compisitions of numerous images.
I think this is the main thing.

« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2006, 12:37 »
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A question from someone who doesn't have a camera that shoots RAW.  I see so many different file extensions, one for each camera brand.  Does the buyer need one filter for each type or does a RAw filter read all types?

Regards,
Adelaide

Greg Boiarsky

« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2006, 13:41 »
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The advantage of allowing RAW is that the files are smaller than TIFF.  The disadvantages to the photographer are huge, in my opinion.  First, and foremost, it allows someone to steal the photo--they can change the file metadata, claim the file as their own, and then resell it, possibly on a microstock site.  Second, RAW files cannot be edited to remove copyrighted images  (as was stated earlier in this thread).  Finally, a RAW file shows all the image's flaws to the potential buyer; these files will not showcase an image's potential.

I will never, in no way, sell my RAW images or upload them to the Net.  Never.

« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2006, 16:16 »
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A question from someone who doesn't have a camera that shoots RAW.  I see so many different file extensions, one for each camera brand.  Does the buyer need one filter for each type or does a RAw filter read all types?

Regards,
Adelaide

generally all raw types are readable by most programs.. such as adobe photoshop.  No matter what the raw type, adobe will read the file (in most cases.. perhaps all)

« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2006, 16:43 »
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A question from someone who doesn't have a camera that shoots RAW. I see so many different file extensions, one for each camera brand. Does the buyer need one filter for each type or does a RAw filter read all types?

There is no standard for RAW files, hence the large number of them.  (NOTE: My understanding is that DNG is an attempt to standardize RAW).  In order for a program (such as PS or PSP) to be able to read a RAW file, they need to write program code for each one.  As new RAW files come out, they are added over time.  The main problem is that the manufacturer usually has to provide the hook (e.g., a DLL) to the RAW file, and this can take some time to come out.  Some RAW versions take longer to support than others.

Hope that helps.

« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2006, 16:48 »
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i wonder if we complain enough, if they will start to accept tiffs instead.?

« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 03:40 »
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Please check out my thread at DT regarding vector uploads
So I don't look like some sad fellow who everyone ignores.
By the looks of it you may get $2 for a eps DL ;D

« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2006, 09:42 »
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DT vector illustrations Q + A Questions by me answers by adashi

Q1 how much does an eps sell for and what does the illustrator get? do we really get $2??
A1 An eps file is sold at double the price of the JPEG file (levels applied). That is $2 for Level 1 file.


Q2 what formats obviously eps but what versions of adobe illustrator etc?
A2 Prefferably the latest version of Adobe Illustrator

Q3 Does the rasterized jpeg version have to uploaded first and the additional format loaded once the jpeg has been submitted? or can they be ftped together (with same file name but different file extensions or as zip file).

Q4 If an illustration has been rejected previously as the JPEG had jagged edges can we resubmit the vector file?


A3 and A4. Only JPEG files can be uploaded via FTP. Once the JPEG file has been accepted, the EPS version can be uploaded also as additional format

Q5 If the illustrator does get $2 for an eps file can they just upload that version so that there will be no 50c or $1 JPEG sales that might undercut their sales elsewhere?
A5. JPG is still the primary format in which people preffer to download images. It is not the EPS that needs a JPG preview, it is the JPG that can have an EPS additional format.

« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2006, 10:33 »
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uploading the high res files, or eps files one at a time seems rather tedious.  I would maybe do it for my best selling images, but if they DID have tiff uploads for example, I don't think i would be going through all my images 1 by 1 uploading

« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2006, 08:28 »
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so how do you actually submit a vector to DT?  I tried eps and it doesn't show up anywhere.  There are no instructions on how to do it.  There are no specifications on whether they want eps or ai files and version number. 
Seems very disorganized.

« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2006, 09:31 »
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First you upload a 3mp jpeg of your illustration as you would a photo then once that is in the pending queue "edit" that file and there is a little box to browse for additional formats just above the right managed bit. Then you submit and wait and a few days later they e-mail you the result.

For rasterized illustrations previously uploaded you need to find the file in "online files" then do the same, fairly tedious, hopefully they will streamline it later on.

They state eps or ai, they seem to be happy with my eps.

If you have a lot of illustrations it may be better to submit the jpegs see what they like then start messing around with uploading eps files one by one.

« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2006, 10:58 »
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Thank you.

Quick question.  How do you make a realy high resolution jpg from Illustrator file?
« Last Edit: August 08, 2006, 11:02 by maggieddd »

« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2006, 11:01 »
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yep, go to your uploads in dreamstime

click on the TITLE of the image

then there is a box half way down that allows your to upload additional formats.

« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2006, 11:35 »
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Maggieddd,

I use another program which only makes eps files which I can import into adobe photoshop where am I prompted on the size of the image.
 
Not sure what you mean by a really high resolution file but you have to decide do you really want to submit an 8mp or 12mp rasterized version to DT which will earn you $1 and may show artefacts at 100% when an eps file/adobe illustrator file would earn you $2 and the buyer can make it as big as they want. For DT you only need 1500 x 2000 pixels.

« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2006, 11:41 »
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Sorry, I meant to say big enough. Currently, when I export as jpg from Illustrator, the size is like 500x700

« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2006, 11:49 »
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well maybe i am saying just what fintastique said.....but anyhow

I export the file from illustrator as an api file

then open the file in photoshop as a really large file and save it as a jpg.

« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2006, 16:15 »
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Maggiedd,

In your vector editor, when saving it as TIFF or JPEG, you are probably prompted a window in which, among other settings, you choose resolution.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2006, 06:46 »
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eps files now on sale DT!

Show me the money I want my $2 per DL  ;D

« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2006, 06:57 »
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well i think i will try uploading a few eps files for the more popular images...

just finished one.  heres to some more downloads  :D


 

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