Author Topic: DT Performance (Read 9458 times)

sharply_done · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 00:04 »

It's taken me 50 days, 15 of which I abandoned DT and didn't bother posting there, but I'm nearing the point of earning $100 monthly from it on a 400 image portfolio.

I'm not too pleased with these numbers, and I'm curious as to how they compare with the norm for DT - worse, about average, or better than expected.

What are your numbers?

litifeta · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2007, 00:08 »

I have about 210 images and get 5 sales a day

Vekha · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:32 »

61 photos on line for me and 19 sales since 2006 december…

sharpshot · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:50 »

After 7 months, I have 135 photos with them. I now sell about 1 a day and still haven't reached my first payout. How bad is that

I didn't upload to them for a while and had very few sales, as I was concentrating on other sites but my sales are starting to pick up. I think it takes longer to get going with them than some other sites. They reject more of my photos than any other site but that isn't a bad thing.

My portfolio doesn't have any people photos, so that might be one reason why my sales are low.
http://www.dreamstime.com/sharpshot_portfolio_pg1

Bateleur · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:20 »

I posted my first with them in October last year, now got 193 up and am $1 short of the hundred bucks.

Sold 3 yesterday and 29 so far this month.

hymowitzer · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:14 »

I have been there since July of 05 so I'm pretty well established.
http://www.dreamstime.com/rjmiz_info
My DPI (Downloads per Image)is 5.12 which is a good number to have.
It appears the higher your DPI percentage, the better off you're doing.

I frequently look at other photog's DPI and I judge myself by comparing their's to mine.
In my opinion, if your DPI is below 3.5, then your * wind" and need to explore
why it's so low.

Daneel · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:54 »

Quote from: hymowitzer on February 23, 2007, 04:14

I frequently look at other photog's DPI and I judge myself by comparing their's to mine.
In my opinion, if your DPI is below 3.5, then your * wind" and need to explore
why it's so low.

That DPI will depend a lot on when and how you upload.

Two examples: If you upload your whole portfolio at once then your DPI will be very low at first but then raise constantly. If you just start uploading as you shoot, your DPI will be much more balanced.

All the best,
Michael

CJPhoto · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2007, 06:05 »

Quote from: hymowitzer on February 23, 2007, 04:14

In my opinion, if your DPI is below 3.5, then your * wind" and need to explore
why it's so low.

No wonder you have been banded from this site once already.

DPI is a fucntion of time you have been on the site. Lets take the extreme example of 1 image in the portfolio. I I uplaoded it 3 years ago, I would expect it to be a lot higher than 5, if I downloaded it yesterday, I would be lucky to have even one. You have been on the site for 2.5 years which means that some of your photos have 2.5 years expsoure where the 13 you uploaded this month only have 1 months exposure. You cant even compare people with similar join dates. One person could dump in 1000 photos in their first month whereas the second could upload the 1000 over the course of a year or two.

leaf · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2007, 06:55 »

actually he wasn't banned, he chose to leave by himself...

none the less I agree with you cjphoto.. it is pretty hard to compare peoples DPI - there is a pile of factors.

sharpshot · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:38 »

I agree with CJ, if you join and upload 1,000 great photos, it will take a while to get a good DPI. That doesn't mean the photos are poor.

Those that have been there a long time could have inferior photos and a higher DPI.

It must me a lot harder to get a good DPI for those starting now, as there is a lot more competition.

They should get rid of the number or add a time factor.

hymowitzer · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:56 »

DPI is a very simple formula.
It's the total amount of sale, (images you had sold) divided by the number of images in you portfolio.

sales / images = DPI

You may have a DPI of 6.0 and have 10 images approved today, then today your DPI will drop to say 5.88
depending of course on your new total of images.

You guys perhaps interpreted my post to mean you were a poor photographer?

leaf · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:03 »

Quote from: hymowitzer on February 23, 2007, 04:14

I frequently look at other photog's DPI and I judge myself by comparing their's to mine.
In my opinion, if your DPI is below 3.5, then your * wind" and need to explore
why it's so low.

You said if it is below 3.5 then you are * wind' . Although there may be something wrong with the images, the 3.5 may also be from not being having your images online long enough.

if you upload 1000 images, you need to sell over 3500 images before your DPI gets over 3.5 - that could take a while.

CJPhoto · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:15 »

Quote from: hymowitzer on February 23, 2007, 09:56

You guys perhaps interpreted my post to mean you were a poor photographer?

I guess we interpreted what * wind" means (having neveer heard of it before).

As per my post above, due to the unknown time factor, I dont think DPI is a helpful measure. it needs some time element to it such as IS DL/month (which is on a per image basis). So maybe a "DPI for the past month"

hymowitzer · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:33 »

* wind is a local expression used where I grew up in Brooklyn NY.
It does not mean anything bad, nor is it derogatory in any manner.

It simply denotes that your trying to get somewhere, accomplish a task, but not getting a foothold on your goal. * wind)
In the future, I will curb my use of local expressions, so as not scare anyone (heh eheh ha)

And Leaf, yes it takes time. Everything takes time. to be a good photographer takes time and effort.
Those who have spent time, and have accomplished their goals they have set out to take on, should
stand back, take a deep breath, and be proud.

Greg Boiarsky · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:52 »

You don't need to watch your use of local terminology. You have to recognize that there are over 500 members on this forum who rarely use abusive terms to describe each other or their photography.

Oh, and one more thing: You did imply that anyone with a low DPI is a poor photographer. Whether or not you meant to imply it, you did.

Quote from: hymowitzer on February 23, 2007, 10:33

It does not mean anything bad, nor is it derogatory in any manner.

It simply denotes that your trying to get somewhere, accomplish a task, but not getting a foothold on your goal. * wind)

sharpshot · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:06 »

So if you are good, does that mean that you are blowing wind?

That means something quite different in the UK

Greg Boiarsky · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:34 »

It doesn't--and from the sound of things, I'm glad we don't use the term.

Quote from: sharpshot on February 23, 2007, 11:06

So if you are good, does that mean that you are blowing wind?

That means something quite different in the UK

hymowitzer · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:40 »

Gentlemen, I think this post has been "de-railed".
Please continue on with the "Spirit" of the intended topic, and not my choice of words please.

sharply_done · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2007, 18:41 »

I think that DPI is also an indicator of the size of a site's user base. My DPI is 5+ on SS, 4+ on IS, but only 0.2+ on DT and FT. All four portfolios are the same age and have the same content.

Perhaps it is the user base that is responsible for this *huge* difference in performance.

Daneel · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2007, 02:55 »

Hi!

Quote from: sharply_done on February 23, 2007, 18:41

I think that DPI is also an indicator of the size of a site's user base. My DPI is 5+ and SS, 4+ on IS, but only 0.2+ on DT and FT. All four portfolios are the same age and have the same content.

Very nice! And it _nicely_ points out how you _can_ use DPI for comparison: By comparing portfolios of the same age. If you compare portfolios of the same age, DPI can indeed be a very useful measurement. I should do that one time for my photos :-)

All the best,
Michael

CJPhoto · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2007, 03:52 »

Quote from: Daneel on February 24, 2007, 02:55

Hi!

Quote from: sharply_done on February 23, 2007, 18:41
I think that DPI is also an indicator of the size of a site's user base. My DPI is 5+ and SS, 4+ on IS, but only 0.2+ on DT and FT. All four portfolios are the same age and have the same content.

Very nice! And it _nicely_ points out how you _can_ use DPI for comparison: By comparing portfolios of the same age. If you compare portfolios of the same age, DPI can indeed be a very useful measurement.

Provided you upload photos to the various sites at the same(or similar) time, then it is a good comparison.

THe metric I use is US$ per photo per month. (monthly income/ number of photos). THis way I can compare month by month across sites and with the same site. It is fairly constant. This however favous sites that reject lower selling shots and only accept higher selling shots so sites like featurepics that accept everything are at a disadvantage. Thinking out loud now, on that basis, $ per month is a better indicator. Which is the simplist but cant be compared against others.

litifeta · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2007, 22:10 »

245 online gets me about $100 a month

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