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« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2012, 12:08 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.

dont know but every time I complain about them here I have a few sales


WarrenPrice

« Reply #76 on: June 15, 2012, 12:13 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.

I'm sure he meant kissing up to them in the forum was a factor in the best match. I doubt the posts I've made recently have done me any good.

In April I made a lot of posts, mostly venting about at the new commission structure etc. Turned out to be a good month. There are many other things I can complain about, so I might set to work.  ;)

On a more serious note, if forum activity also plays a factor in search, no matter how small the factor, well that's just silly. The only worse thing I heard was when both Yay and CC started making a factor of the number of FB 'likes' on images, a little over a a year ago. I don't know if they still do it.

Not so sure that (bolded statement) is accurate.  I don't see much forum participation from, Yuri, Andres, MonkeyBusiness, Lisafx, etc.
Hasn't seemed to affect their search placement.

« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2012, 12:18 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.

I believe that was an April 1 post though.

I sure hope it isn't a factor. Looking at my posts/income, my month with the most posts was one of my lowest incomes. I think most of my posts were complaining about commission cuts though.

In the past there was something about the DT contributor that effected the placement a lot because you would often see a whole string of images from the same contributor in a search.

« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2012, 13:07 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.


I believe that was an April 1 post though.

I sure hope it isn't a factor. Looking at my posts/income, my month with the most posts was one of my lowest incomes. I think most of my posts were complaining about commission cuts though.

In the past there was something about the DT contributor that effected the placement a lot because you would often see a whole string of images from the same contributor in a search.


Found this, written on April 1, 2010.

"You might not have thought of this but yes, messages and posts also count."

http://blog.dreamstime.com//2010/04/01//the-search-engine-revealed_art32040

haha, I haven't laughed this much much since watching The Ring.  :-\

« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2012, 20:03 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.

That's just ridiculous
But it was Apr 1 and Serban said it so it must be true. :D

grafix04

« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2012, 20:57 »
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To test this theory we can all go brown-nosing for a day.  Of course we should do it on an empty stomach since they don't pay us enough to waste a good lunch.

lisafx

« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2012, 12:06 »
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Not so sure that (bolded statement) is accurate.  I don't see much forum participation from, Yuri, Andres, MonkeyBusiness, Lisafx, etc.
Hasn't seemed to affect their search placement.

I do periodically participate in DT forums.  Not a lot, a few posts a month.  No idea whether it has any effect on search, though...?

WarrenPrice

« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2012, 11:11 »
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Hardly any sales this month but the few are good ones.  RPD highest ever.  Will be watching closely (of course) to determine whether I am in RPD or RPI camp.   8)

« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2012, 11:20 »
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Hardly any sales this month but the few are good ones.  RPD highest ever.  Will be watching closely (of course) to determine whether I am in RPD or RPI camp.   8)

I am with 19 sales which is incredible low, my max there is at 74/month, after a BME its quite depressing..

« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2012, 12:07 »
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I'm at 1/3 of my average for the last 12 months. RPD is above average, but nowhere near enough to compensate for the very low sales.  I also got some .63 subs, which I suppose is good if I compare them to .35, but not so good when compared to .7.  My DT tap seems to be barely dripping this month, but maybe it was only on for the weekends or something.

« Reply #85 on: June 19, 2012, 15:54 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.


I believe that was an April 1 post though.

I sure hope it isn't a factor. Looking at my posts/income, my month with the most posts was one of my lowest incomes. I think most of my posts were complaining about commission cuts though.

In the past there was something about the DT contributor that effected the placement a lot because you would often see a whole string of images from the same contributor in a search.


Found this, written on April 1, 2010.

"You might not have thought of this but yes, messages and posts also count."

http://blog.dreamstime.com//2010/04/01//the-search-engine-revealed_art32040

haha, I haven't laughed this much much since watching The Ring.  :-\


Well, there you go. I guess I didn't notice it was first published on April 1 or just fell for it because much of it is obviously true (and much of microstock is so daft that anything is possible). But I was pretty sure I saw it stated by Serban in a thread rather than Carmen in a blog, so maybe it is a true part. Who knows? There would be some warped logic to it, since part of iStock's early success seems to have been connected to its active forums helping to boost search engine rankings.

« Reply #86 on: June 19, 2012, 16:09 »
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.

I asked today on the DT forum, why I haven't even a single sale for last 5 days?
Asked that on another maybe similar topic, no reason to open new, because "Search algorithm" topic is closed express...

My post is deleted and Achilles put an answer in comment of my last approved photo:
"Please do a search on the message boards, this was explained several times, even today.Thank you"

P.S.

If today is problem with contributor exposure what will be for year or two?
Where are levels, downloads, views and other usual valuated conditions in this kind of marketing?
« Last Edit: June 19, 2012, 16:21 by borg »

« Reply #87 on: June 19, 2012, 20:02 »
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My sales are at exactly 10% of last month and the month is almost over.   what?  If this is the new norm, let me know because I will have to close my account.

BK

« Reply #88 on: June 19, 2012, 20:52 »
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I have no sales on DT this month.  It's just depressing. They were always a top 3 site for me and showed continuous improvement. Since April 1, it's been terrible.  Could they really do this much damage with just a search change?  Or have customers abandoned them? 

Have any of you veterans seen anything similar to this with other sites in the past?  Is it a death spiral or just some turbulence?

Wim

« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2012, 02:26 »
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I have no sales on DT this month.  It's just depressing. They were always a top 3 site for me and showed continuous improvement. Since April 1, it's been terrible.  Could they really do this much damage with just a search change?  Or have customers abandoned them? 

Have any of you veterans seen anything similar to this with other sites in the past?  Is it a death spiral or just some turbulence?

RPD way above average so good sales here. I don't like to share numbers but had 5 yesterday (1 level 5 large)

« Reply #90 on: June 20, 2012, 11:59 »
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Haven't had any sales on DT since 6-9-12!  Haven't gone without a sale there for this duration in quite some time!

THP Creative

  • THP Creative

« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2012, 02:10 »
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Looking to be about an average month for me. Had some very dry days, but then some good ones too. Nothing too 'messed up' from my end. Not breaking any records, but just keeping steady.

« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2012, 06:16 »
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April was my turning point as well. Slow positive growth and then the wheels suddenly fell off. 3 sales all of this month with a portfolio heavy with summer themes (I started last July). Until April, Dreamstime was my #1 agency. It's now last. I had 3 sales last July with 20 images in my portfolio. I now have well over 300 images.

I'm noticing a wild swing in "views" with new accepted images. A few with lots of views and no sales and many with no views at all after a few weeks. That's unusual and very unlike pre-April.

I'm new to Shutterstock but with 60% fewer images I've sold over 40 more images so far this month.

« Reply #93 on: June 21, 2012, 06:43 »
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Has anyone noticed a positive change in their DT sales in the last few days.

I'm now on my third day of doubled sales (both quantity and overall earnings).  One of those "faucet turning on" moments.  Maybe there was another best match shift this week that boosted best sellers?

« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2012, 06:57 »
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Has anyone noticed a positive change in their DT sales in the last few days.

I'm now on my third day of doubled sales (both quantity and overall earnings).  One of those "faucet turning on" moments.  Maybe there was another best match shift this week that boosted best sellers?
Yes the tap seems to have been turned back on for me since the 17th

« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2012, 09:45 »
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The last few days have been much better - but I've often had a few good days preceding "Subscription Fridays". Need to see how things play out overall before I get too excited that they've turned things around.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2012, 15:33 »
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help.   :P

My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.

Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?


Both sales were with "2010 Credits."

Can someone offer an explanation, please?

« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2012, 15:40 »
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help.   :P

My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.

Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?


Both sales were with "2010 Credits."

Can someone offer an explanation, please?
I believe it depends on what credit package has been purchased (discount for larger packages). So DT hands down the discounted credit pricing by paying out the % of that particular package price.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2012, 16:05 »
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help.   :P

My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.

Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?


Both sales were with "2010 Credits."

Can someone offer an explanation, please?
I believe it depends on what credit package has been purchased (discount for larger packages). So DT hands down the discounted credit pricing by paying out the % of that particular package price.

The difference in the two seems too great for that; I succumbed and queried admin.   :-[

« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2012, 16:48 »
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You'll get the same answer click click gave - huge difference in the value of a credit depending on what was paid for it


 

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