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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: SA on May 29, 2012, 03:08
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Low activity (views) but a good amount of high credit sales (no subs) and almost daily.
I've moved back in search but it doesn't seem to affect my sales much, on the contrary.
Maybe buyers that dig deeper into the pile are the ones buying via credits, not subs ;)
Good luck mate!
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Dreamstime consistently for me goes in cycles no or low downloads for a couple of days then a couple of days of good sales. Seems like they cycle the best match positions around.
This month is lower than last few but within the limit of what I was consider normal
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Hi. I haven't had a single download in over 2 weeks. I heard there was something messed up with the search results so other images got in front of the buyers. Is this fixed now? Im having no activity at all over there? How is is for you?
The fact that your images aren't at the front of the search doesn't mean that the search is necessarily messed, just changed. As long as a selection of new and proved images are getting seen then the search is still good. What I am finding is that I am making 5 times more some days than others. Seems very erratic as if they are changing the results every few days (which Serban hinted at in the forums). I suppose this gives a lot more people a crack at getting some good sales instead of always having exactly the same images at the front of the search. My earnings are down overall this month because of the not so good days but I still can't say that the search is messed, just different.
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Dreamstime consistently for me goes in cycles no or low downloads for a couple of days then a couple of days of good sales. Seems like they cycle the best match positions around.
This month is lower than last few but within the limit of what I was consider normal
Yes, exactly what I was saying.
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I'm having a BME there but I'm still going to leave them if they don't get rid of that Pinterest button.
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This month is lower than last few but within the limit of what I was consider normal
That exactly describes my sales there too. Down a bit, but within normal range.
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I'm having a BME there but I'm still going to leave them if they don't get rid of that Pinterest button.
on a BME too (low numbers) and I see less sales but a lot more credits (my RPD went from 0.80 to 1.3)
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I'm having a BME there but I'm still going to leave them if they don't get rid of that Pinterest button.
on a BME too (low numbers) and I see less sales but a lot more credits (my RPD went from 0.80 to 1.3)
Mine went from $2.10 to $0.54 ...
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Really? My RPD the last 3 months is: $1.65, $2.65, $2.55. What levels are your images? The money starts to get made at Level 3+.
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RPD March = 1,09$
RPD April = 0,75$ (worst month of the year for me)
RPD May = 2,34$
so way up here
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I'm on target for a pretty good month too, probably the 3rd highest in the last 12 months. I'm selling fewer images but RPD has shot up to $2.48 from an average, over the last 12 months, of $1.87. I haven't uploaded to DT for over a year either so maybe that's the secret!
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BME for me ;D
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)
Maybe it's because they're the subject of the acquisition mentioned by SS.
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)
Maybe it's because they're the subject of the acquisition mentioned by SS.
So what would that mean? SS would become fully sub site, DT would become fully credit? Or would DT represent "a premium, higher priced collection"? Somehow that doesn't make much sense, since SS rolled out so many higher priced products (ways of licencing images) lately (SOD and many other, selling in the range of something over 4$ up to 90$)
However it does answer the "no IPO" question.
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So what would that mean? SS would become fully sub site, DT would become fully credit? Or would DT represent "a premium, higher priced collection"? Somehow that doesn't make much sense, since SS rolled out so many higher priced products (ways of licencing images) lately (SOD and many other, selling in the range of something over 4$ up to 90$)
However it does answer the "no IPO" question.
It would simply mean that SS gained a larger share of the overall market. Different agencies appeal to different customers so SS wouldn't necessarily need to change anything. They've not changed much to BigStock.
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As my return to DT was relatively recent (June 2011), my portfolio is still relatively bottom heavy (lots of uploads and not so many level 3 and up images).
My RPD has been climbing with their recent changes, but not enough to offset the decreased downloads. So the net is that I see this as a loss, not a gain.
For example, in March, my RPD was $1.11 and this month it's $1.77, but I had nearly twice as many downloads in March as May, so the net is a lower total for May.
November had an RPD of 98 cents, but beat the pants off every month this year.
I'd love to see a survey showing what buyers think of this enormously complex pricing scheme at DT
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Really? My RPD the last 3 months is: $1.65, $2.65, $2.55. What levels are your images? The money starts to get made at Level 3+.
I'm not sure if this was aimed at me? If so, my highest level images are 4. That comes into play only slightly, however. Very few sales, period. And, 8 of 10 are subs.
I'm sure it will get better; As many have noted -- it is cyclical -- changing search priorities seem to make the difference.
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Really? My RPD the last 3 months is: $1.65, $2.65, $2.55. What levels are your images? The money starts to get made at Level 3+.
my best seller level 5 have 28 sales and last time sold was on March 7th.. I guess that shows how high levels are selling for me..
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Lately I'm getting refunds from time to time. Up until a few months ago I never got them. They sure seem desperate for cash, milking that cow as fast as they can, since they have the indications their business is in decline and probably see more trouble on the horizon, especially after all the IPOs (they're the only one out of the top 4 that won't be getting a fresh supply of cash/or like FT already got it)
I agree, I previously mentioned that all this fiddling with the best match and levels makes me think they're desperate and have possibly run into a bit of financial trouble.
My RPD jumped from $2.51 in April to $3.85 in May. I have a BME in revenue, downloads and RPD which is great but I don't want to get too comfortable just yet. I have a feeling that buyers are still in that 'I can't be bothered moving right now' phase. The system was complex and pricey even before the last change. It was a bold, risky move fiddling with the levels to dupe buyers and eventually, I believe, it will backfire. I have a feeling buyers are still buying, using up their credits while deciding which other agent to replace them with. It shouldn't be too hard as almost every agent out there will give them a better deal.
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Sounds like they've been reading the istock playbook. :o
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Nose dive for me. Been there since day one.
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15 credits (2010) $5.19 large (RF) (level 4)
25 credits (2010) $5.85 maximum (U-EL) (level 2)
da*m on the discounts
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As my return to DT was relatively recent (June 2011), my portfolio is still relatively bottom heavy (lots of uploads and not so many level 3 and up images).
My RPD has been climbing with their recent changes, but not enough to offset the decreased downloads. So the net is that I see this as a loss, not a gain.
For example, in March, my RPD was $1.11 and this month it's $1.77, but I had nearly twice as many downloads in March as May, so the net is a lower total for May.
November had an RPD of 98 cents, but beat the pants off every month this year.
I'd love to see a survey showing what buyers think of this enormously complex pricing scheme at DT
Never looked from a buyer’s perspective but, if anything like commissions, yes, bound to be off-putting. I don’t have the volumes to make any real judgement but I tend to be unaffected by search algorithm changes and my gut feel is they are simply moving much less product and the higher price is not enough to compensate.
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It is true, RPd is higher these days, but the sales almost disappeared recently!
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had a great last two days, in a pretty good overall month, making it a 3rd BME (not third in a row, third overall)
Definitely finding the level increase is improving earnings.
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BME at DT for me. Also ended the month my highest monthly RPD of $2.37.
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A great RDP but less earnings than May 2009 with around 80 less downloads. As I have said before, an improved RPD is meaningless if sales volume goes down and most importantly, earnings go down. The commission cuts have also eaten in to my monthly earnings. Their fall in sales is not as bad as istock and FT but they've all lost out to SS.
You would think that the sites that have cut commissions, raised prices, demotivated their contributors and sent buyers to SS would have seen they have the wrong strategy by now but unfortunately there's still no sign of this ending. While SS is my favourite site, I'd like to see them have stronger competition. If anything goes wrong with SS now, microstock wouldn't be worth doing anymore.
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Scratch this problem. My accountant screwed up his end-of-month reporting. DT's records were correct.
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RPD was only $1.56 last month and I made 1/4 of what I normally do. I made more on DT over this past weekend than I did for all of May - my worst month ever there other than my first few months when I just started out. Every place else was above average or average. About 19% of my photos are level 3, 4 or 5 (5% are level 4 or 5) and most of the rest are the new level 2.
RPD is $1.97 so far for June - no where near a BME - but sales volume is projected to be about 2x my normal volume. Of course, it seems premature to make projections on a few days' sales.
Sorry to hear others are in the same boat - but relieved I'm not alone.
Income at iStock is continuing to rise for me ( slowly but steadily) but SS is by far my best earner after Alamy, and I've added far fewer new photos to SS than to anywhere else - ELs are getting more regular there and volume is consistently high. If it weren't for SS I wouldn't even bother with the micros at this point. Let's hope their new financing doesn't rock the boat.
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in the first 6 days of June DT was really slow for me...I have 760 image and so far 3 sales!!! What is going on?
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Looks like they've shot themselves in the foot. And looks like SS is getting yet more buyers.
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On top of dropping sales, my RPD is dropping, at free fall pace. I'm mostly getting just 70c subs.
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horrible month and also the review is taking ages! I have files uploaded on May 29!!
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5th place so far, behind IS with 28 images and 123 with 150
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Horrible trend for us too.
May was BME on every agency but not on DT.
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Attaching my stats grab. This is worse than my first month there in 96 with a couple photos. Is there an error in reporting, or is it really this bad? Especially following a top-3 month, and above average '12 so far.
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quite similar here too, DT was my 6th best agency last month (I will repeat myself saying they are stagnated)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iogkFeYBBMY/T9fKVIE8J9I/AAAAAAAABHI/nugoJAWODb8/s1600/Capturar.PNG)
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I wasn't seeing the problems everyone else has been...until this month. Crikey! 2,300 images and I only had 3 sales during the first 5 days, and none this past weekend. That NEVER happens. Here we are, nearly halfway through June, and my sales are 1/4th of January's sales (December and January tend to be my worst months)! Sales have started to pick up again, but nearly all have been subscription sales or small sizes.
FYI -- March was a unique BME for me. Someone bought the largest size of my entire neon alphabet collection...24 images total. Without those unusual sales, I would have ended up close to April's numbers.
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I am at about 1/5 of last month. This month started out horribly and almost all subs. Things have started to pick up a bit, but w/o a change it is going to be a bad month at DT.
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Horrible month for me also. Might not even make payout. That hasn't happened in 5 years.
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Horrible month for me also. Might not even make payout. That hasn't happened in 5 years.
To put my revenue chart into perspective, my January earnings didn't reach a payout (for the first time in 5 years, too). I sure hope things pick up, because I don't want to see a repeat!
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Sorry guys, but I find it oddly comforting that your graphs look so much like mine. God that's twisted, but I was seriously thinking that I had been fired - and I know I haven't said a thing bad to be punished somehow because I've always been a vocal supporter of DT. So, this is what everyone else has been talking about. Oh, my!
Should we be screaming though FOUL, THEY ARE NOT REPORTING SALES!!!! THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE PROVEN BY 7 YEARS HISTORY!!!!!
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Should we be screaming though FOUL, THEY ARE NOT REPORTING SALES!!!! THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE PROVEN BY 7 YEARS HISTORY!!!!!
don´t know about that but I am having a very bad month after a BME (I am very small to be relevant but..)
May 58 ($68.73)
June 11 ($10.44)
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Could be that after the last sneaky price rise, angry buyers have used up their credits and gone elsewhere. I've been expecting this to happen.
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Sorry guys, but I find it oddly comforting that your graphs look so much like mine. God that's twisted, but I was seriously thinking that I had been fired - and I know I haven't said a thing bad to be punished somehow because I've always been a vocal supporter of DT. So, this is what everyone else has been talking about. Oh, my!
Hahaha! I had the exact same reaction. ;D
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Could be that after the last sneaky price rise, angry buyers have used up their credits and gone elsewhere. I've been expecting this to happen.
This is probably what has happened. Why pay more?
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Could be that after the last sneaky price rise, angry buyers have used up their credits and gone elsewhere. I've been expecting this to happen.
This is probably what has happened. Why pay more?
Yea and it's not just a price increase, it's the way they did it. From a buyer's perspective, they'd have to be pretty irate. If I was a buyer and purchased 52 credits with the intention of purchasing a certain number of quality images and was adding them in my lightbox, I'd be furious if suddenly DT fiddled with the levels making the credits that I already purchased less valuable. I'd then have to purchase more credits to purchase what's in my lightbox. I'm not even sure that it's legal to do that. It would be similar to putting a down payment of $500 on a car that's worth $2000 and then finding out later that the dealer has increased the price of the car to $3000 and refuses to give me back the down payment of $500. DT increasing prices by shuffling the levels was sneaky, certainly unethical and possibly illegal.
And not only that, I'm not exactly sure when they did it, but since April, they've also increased prices of credit packages making it a double whammy for buyers.
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Probably the best argument against exclusivity (anywhere) that I've seen... ;)
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I'm at 30% of May. Looking at the trends of the last few months I should be at least at 50%. But as I've always said, I couldn't care less about DT, they bring me only 5% of my total earnings
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xx44o.jpg)
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Way, WAY down this month, last month was by far BME.
"Inconsistency" seems to be the word to describe Microstock lately (sales and reviews)
It's a rollercoaster!
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"Inconsistency" seems to be the word to describe Microstock lately (sales and reviews)
If you discard the data from the top 2, then yes.
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"Inconsistency" seems to be the word to describe Microstock lately (sales and reviews)
If you discard the data from the top 2, then yes.
I was under the impression that you thought reviews inconsistent in 50% of the top 2??? ;)
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"Inconsistency" seems to be the word to describe Microstock lately (sales and reviews)
If you discard the data from the top 2, then yes.
I was under the impression that you thought reviews inconsistent in 50% of the top 2??? ;)
Reviews yes, earnings no ;)
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For the first 12 days of June vs the first 12 days of May, I'm up about 10%.
BUT...
First 12 days of June 2012 vs first 12 of June 2011... DOWN ABOUT 12%.
Every other top or mid tier agency is up a healthy margin for me from 2012 to 2011. DT is the ONLY one in the red.
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They are holding steady for me. So far this year every month has been higher than the monthly average for last year and last month was a BME. The higher RPD is keeping revenue higher even though number of sales is down. This year they have made up a little under 9% of all earnings, in 4th place overall. But I agree that inconsistency is the key word - DT and CS have the highest variance in earnings for me. Over the past six months my earnings at DT have varied more than 7 fold. I just hope their business model is sustainable and the decent earnings continue.
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I've had 4 sales in June, two were subs. This is the worst ever for me. Everyone doesn't seem to be affected - there is nothing in the forum.
This thread indicates I'm not being overly critical.
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My chart looks about like everyone else's here.
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I've had 4 sales in June, two were subs. This is the worst ever for me.
Ditto the same here. Much will depend on your portfolio and subject matter but during my first six months with DT sales increased as my portfolio increased....the way it should be. The past three or four months everything has changed. My portfolio is growing yet sales have completely tanked. Very discouraging.
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I've had 4 sales in June, two were subs. This is the worst ever for me. Everyone doesn't seem to be affected - there is nothing in the forum.
This thread indicates I'm not being overly critical.
Who is going to start the thread in the DT forum? Or have they deleted all the threads?
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I've had 4 sales in June, two were subs. This is the worst ever for me. Everyone doesn't seem to be affected - there is nothing in the forum.
This thread indicates I'm not being overly critical.
Who is going to start the thread in the DT forum? Or have they deleted all the threads?
Not me. I'm banned. :(
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I've had 4 sales in June, two were subs. This is the worst ever for me. Everyone doesn't seem to be affected - there is nothing in the forum.
This thread indicates I'm not being overly critical.
Who is going to start the thread in the DT forum? Or have they deleted all the threads?
Not me. I'm banned. :(
Not me, I'm not banned, but I think it would be pointless.
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Just like it's pointless to continue a relationship with them if we only reach payout every 3 years. Well, I am exagerrating at 3 years. It would be about 5 years if they keep payout at $100 and this month becomes new norm. I'll give them the weekend to see what it looks like before I turn into a crybaby on their forum.
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DT now represents about 4% of our income (Minerva Studio).
And we only upload to 5 agencies, one of which is completely automatized (Bigstock via Bridge).
That's quite junky.
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Can someone please tell me that this is a coincidence.
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Can someone please tell me that this is a coincidence.
;D Looks like we should use the forum more
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what a nice chart ;D
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Can someone please tell me that this is a coincidence.
;D Looks like we should use the forum more
That's what I'm dreading :D
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Hi. I haven't had a single download in over 2 weeks. I heard there was something messed up with the search results so other images got in front of the buyers. Is this fixed now? Im having no activity at all over there? How is is for you?
Same for me... I do not have any sale for more than one month :(
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Can someone please tell me that this is a coincidence.
I don't use their forums at all and still have managed to sell, so I hope it is just a coincidence.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
That's just ridiculous
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I'm sure he meant kissing up to them in the forum was a factor in the best match. I doubt the posts I've made recently have done me any good.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I'm sure he meant kissing up to them in the forum was a factor in the best match. I doubt the posts I've made recently have done me any good.
In April I made a lot of posts, mostly venting about at the new commission structure etc. Turned out to be a good month. There are many other things I can complain about, so I might set to work. ;)
On a more serious note, if forum activity also plays a factor in search, no matter how small the factor, well that's just silly. The only worse thing I heard was when both Yay and CC started making a factor of the number of FB 'likes' on images, a little over a a year ago. I don't know if they still do it.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
don´t know but every time I complain about them here I have a few sales
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I'm sure he meant kissing up to them in the forum was a factor in the best match. I doubt the posts I've made recently have done me any good.
In April I made a lot of posts, mostly venting about at the new commission structure etc. Turned out to be a good month. There are many other things I can complain about, so I might set to work. ;)
On a more serious note, if forum activity also plays a factor in search, no matter how small the factor, well that's just silly. The only worse thing I heard was when both Yay and CC started making a factor of the number of FB 'likes' on images, a little over a a year ago. I don't know if they still do it.
Not so sure that (bolded statement) is accurate. I don't see much forum participation from, Yuri, Andres, MonkeyBusiness, Lisafx, etc.
Hasn't seemed to affect their search placement.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I believe that was an April 1 post though.
I sure hope it isn't a factor. Looking at my posts/income, my month with the most posts was one of my lowest incomes. I think most of my posts were complaining about commission cuts though.
In the past there was something about the DT contributor that effected the placement a lot because you would often see a whole string of images from the same contributor in a search.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I believe that was an April 1 post though.
I sure hope it isn't a factor. Looking at my posts/income, my month with the most posts was one of my lowest incomes. I think most of my posts were complaining about commission cuts though.
In the past there was something about the DT contributor that effected the placement a lot because you would often see a whole string of images from the same contributor in a search.
Found this, written on April 1, 2010.
"You might not have thought of this but yes, messages and posts also count."
http://blog.dreamstime.com//2010/04/01//the-search-engine-revealed_art32040 (http://blog.dreamstime.com//2010/04/01//the-search-engine-revealed_art32040)
haha, I haven't laughed this much much since watching The Ring. :-\
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
That's just ridiculous
But it was Apr 1 and Serban said it so it must be true. :D
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To test this theory we can all go brown-nosing for a day. Of course we should do it on an empty stomach since they don't pay us enough to waste a good lunch.
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Not so sure that (bolded statement) is accurate. I don't see much forum participation from, Yuri, Andres, MonkeyBusiness, Lisafx, etc.
Hasn't seemed to affect their search placement.
I do periodically participate in DT forums. Not a lot, a few posts a month. No idea whether it has any effect on search, though...?
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Hardly any sales this month but the few are good ones. RPD highest ever. Will be watching closely (of course) to determine whether I am in RPD or RPI camp. 8)
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Hardly any sales this month but the few are good ones. RPD highest ever. Will be watching closely (of course) to determine whether I am in RPD or RPI camp. 8)
I am with 19 sales which is incredible low, my max there is at 74/month, after a BME its quite depressing..
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I'm at 1/3 of my average for the last 12 months. RPD is above average, but nowhere near enough to compensate for the very low sales. I also got some .63 subs, which I suppose is good if I compare them to .35, but not so good when compared to .7. My DT tap seems to be barely dripping this month, but maybe it was only on for the weekends or something.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I believe that was an April 1 post though.
I sure hope it isn't a factor. Looking at my posts/income, my month with the most posts was one of my lowest incomes. I think most of my posts were complaining about commission cuts though.
In the past there was something about the DT contributor that effected the placement a lot because you would often see a whole string of images from the same contributor in a search.
Found this, written on April 1, 2010.
"You might not have thought of this but yes, messages and posts also count."
[url]http://blog.dreamstime.com//2010/04/01//the-search-engine-revealed_art32040[/url] ([url]http://blog.dreamstime.com//2010/04/01//the-search-engine-revealed_art32040[/url])
haha, I haven't laughed this much much since watching The Ring. :-\
Well, there you go. I guess I didn't notice it was first published on April 1 or just fell for it because much of it is obviously true (and much of microstock is so daft that anything is possible). But I was pretty sure I saw it stated by Serban in a thread rather than Carmen in a blog, so maybe it is a true part. Who knows? There would be some warped logic to it, since part of iStock's early success seems to have been connected to its active forums helping to boost search engine rankings.
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Serban once said the forum presence was a factor in the best match.
I asked today on the DT forum, why I haven't even a single sale for last 5 days?
Asked that on another maybe similar topic, no reason to open new, because "Search algorithm" topic is closed express...
My post is deleted and Achilles put an answer in comment of my last approved photo:
"Please do a search on the message boards, this was explained several times, even today.Thank you"
P.S.
If today is problem with contributor exposure what will be for year or two?
Where are levels, downloads, views and other usual valuated conditions in this kind of marketing?
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My sales are at exactly 10% of last month and the month is almost over. what? If this is the new norm, let me know because I will have to close my account.
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I have no sales on DT this month. It's just depressing. They were always a top 3 site for me and showed continuous improvement. Since April 1, it's been terrible. Could they really do this much damage with just a search change? Or have customers abandoned them?
Have any of you veterans seen anything similar to this with other sites in the past? Is it a death spiral or just some turbulence?
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I have no sales on DT this month. It's just depressing. They were always a top 3 site for me and showed continuous improvement. Since April 1, it's been terrible. Could they really do this much damage with just a search change? Or have customers abandoned them?
Have any of you veterans seen anything similar to this with other sites in the past? Is it a death spiral or just some turbulence?
RPD way above average so good sales here. I don't like to share numbers but had 5 yesterday (1 level 5 large)
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Haven't had any sales on DT since 6-9-12! Haven't gone without a sale there for this duration in quite some time!
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Looking to be about an average month for me. Had some very dry days, but then some good ones too. Nothing too 'messed up' from my end. Not breaking any records, but just keeping steady.
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April was my turning point as well. Slow positive growth and then the wheels suddenly fell off. 3 sales all of this month with a portfolio heavy with summer themes (I started last July). Until April, Dreamstime was my #1 agency. It's now last. I had 3 sales last July with 20 images in my portfolio. I now have well over 300 images.
I'm noticing a wild swing in "views" with new accepted images. A few with lots of views and no sales and many with no views at all after a few weeks. That's unusual and very unlike pre-April.
I'm new to Shutterstock but with 60% fewer images I've sold over 40 more images so far this month.
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Has anyone noticed a positive change in their DT sales in the last few days.
I'm now on my third day of doubled sales (both quantity and overall earnings). One of those "faucet turning on" moments. Maybe there was another best match shift this week that boosted best sellers?
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Has anyone noticed a positive change in their DT sales in the last few days.
I'm now on my third day of doubled sales (both quantity and overall earnings). One of those "faucet turning on" moments. Maybe there was another best match shift this week that boosted best sellers?
Yes the tap seems to have been turned back on for me since the 17th
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The last few days have been much better - but I've often had a few good days preceding "Subscription Fridays". Need to see how things play out overall before I get too excited that they've turned things around.
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help. :P
My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.
Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?
Both sales were with "2010 Credits."
Can someone offer an explanation, please?
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help. :P
My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.
Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?
Both sales were with "2010 Credits."
Can someone offer an explanation, please?
I believe it depends on what credit package has been purchased (discount for larger packages). So DT hands down the discounted credit pricing by paying out the % of that particular package price.
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help. :P
My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.
Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?
Both sales were with "2010 Credits."
Can someone offer an explanation, please?
I believe it depends on what credit package has been purchased (discount for larger packages). So DT hands down the discounted credit pricing by paying out the % of that particular package price.
The difference in the two seems too great for that; I succumbed and queried admin. :-[
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You'll get the same answer click click gave - huge difference in the value of a credit depending on what was paid for it
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You'll get the same answer click click gave - huge difference in the value of a credit depending on what was paid for it
I'm sure you are right but it is much more satisfying to hear it "officially." :P
Besides, what if click click is wrong? ;)
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help. :P
My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.
Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?
Both sales were with "2010 Credits."
Can someone offer an explanation, please?
Main difference between the two sales:
Level 4 pays 40% commission, level 2 pays 30%.
So the buyer paid (5.19 / 14 * (100/40)) = 93 cents per credit for your first (level 4) sale and (5.17 / 20 * (100/30)) = 86 cents per credit for your second (level 2) sale.
And that difference comes from the different credit packages...
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Maybe someone here can help rather than humiliating myself by asking DT for help. :P
My level 4 Medium image returned $5.19 for 14 Credit sale.
My Level 2 Tiff returned $5.17 for 20 Credit sale.
Isn't commission calculated based on the credits, regardless of image level?
Both sales were with "2010 Credits."
Can someone offer an explanation, please?
Main difference between the two sales:
Level 4 pays 40% commission, level 2 pays 30%.
So the buyer paid (5.19 / 14 * (100/40)) = 93 cents per credit for your first (level 4) sale and (5.17 / 20 * (100/30)) = 86 cents per credit for your second (level 2) sale.
And that difference comes from the different credit packages...
Yes... I think that is the answer. I was thinking the the Level dictated what the buyer paid and did not understand that our commissions were also based on the Level.
Thanks ...
I have already received a question from admin about the images identification. Just waiting now for the "official" answer.
Appreciate your time (and your understanding of DT procedures) Dirkr.
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It's in their FAQs -
I received unusual royalties for images sold. What could the explanation be?
Royalties different from the ones you see displayed on the Sell Your Images page are due to various factors.
The most common explanation is the actual credit value per each package a buyer purchases. The more credits the package has, the lower the price/credit. Each credit's value and hence royalties are now calculated at the real value paid by the buyer.
For example, 8 credits purchased with the $9.99 package, will bring the contributor a reference of $1.25/credit: the royalties for a 8 credits image will vary between $3 (non exclusives, level 1) or $6 for exclusives. A $99.99 credit-package will bring the buyer 108 credits, which translates into $0.93/credit. Royalties for a 8 credits image are $2.23 (non exclusives, level 1) and $4.46 for exclusives. Add to the above the possibility of having third party downloads through our alliances/referral programs or the value of withholding taxes for non-US contributors and you will understand why royalties values are so diverse. The price per credit PPC can also be affected by seasonal promotions and discount campaigns.
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FUBAR
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FUBAR
Yep, on purpose. That way contributors can never know whether they are getting ripped off or not. >:(
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very slow month and the scary thing is that I am uploading a lot of new pics but the few dowloads are old images...very few views and no sales for the pics uploaded in the last few months!
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I just got payed 35c for a level 4 image (sub). W-T-F is going on?!? ???
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I just got payed 35c for a level 4 image (sub). W-T-F is going on?!? ???
Haven't you heard? DT did away with level pricing commissions on subs. All 35 cents now, except for the older sub packages which yield you even less. It's just another MS pay cut in which they say you will net more sub DL's with this strategic commission cut.
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I'm glad I stopped ULing over 2 months ago
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DST has been down for me since March, with more than 30%. Only thing is : they sell pretty well during the weekends ???
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To the original question "DT still messed up?"...
My numbers suggest DT may be back on track. There were a few awful months there, but lately my sales trend line has been rising nicely. Maybe best match has reverted back to where it had been before the change? (Perhaps others have already declared this to be the case and I haven't been staying as updated as I should.)
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For this month DT is pretty sad - the sales numbers are low and the RPD is low too - lots of subs (now all .35 too). At least the dry spell of nothing seems to be over. Still things at DT seem to have been worse for me the last 2 months. Hopefully this is temporary.
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I stopped UL there. I don't care but glad to see that DT is going down down.......... Well, nothing personal just don't like the way they do.
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A few posts were removed due to unnecessary crude language.