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« on: June 05, 2012, 09:33 »
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I would love to understand some agencies but its kind of hard actually.. DT is on the top of that list for sure..

I have recently shoot a rally in Ireland I went to watch, over 50 cars on 3 different places... that said I have uploaded to SS which have approved all of them, same goes for 123RF, DP and a few other too.. only DT has now a new rejection type:

Please submit only those images from this series that fit the event better. We consider that 3-5 images per event can tell the full story, and by submitting less you will certainly focus on quality (this is always preferred) while covering up an event.

another problem is their approval ratio which hurts when we have more rejections..

for the first batch 70 pictures, 34 got rejected.. not to mention they took over 10 days to review them..

yep I know they (rally pics) wont make me rich, no need to tell me


WarrenPrice

« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 09:43 »
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Yep ... been there; done that.  I shoot Motocross.  Images of Vintage bikes from the 50s 60s 70s -- get rejected for too many similars (they are all motorcycles).   :o

Pictures of past World Champions have sold well at Cutcaster (exclusives)

A four-year old picture of James (Bubba) Stewart sells on regular basis -- at Shutterstock.  

DT has rules, You Know?   ::)

« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 09:48 »
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DT has rules, You Know?   ::)

do they have anything else? :D

« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 14:52 »
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agencies create the problem by having such subjective acceptance standards - from any collection of 30 images,  each agency will select a different set of 4 or 5 as the 'best' while giving the others LCV or we dont need this now type responses.

if instead they had a policy that said we'll accept any technically good images, then we could be more selective inin what we submit

« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 15:04 »
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Whenever I have a lot of photos from a single shoot, I submit them in batches over a period of a year.  Avoids the dreaded "too many" rejections.   

DT and most sites store everything we upload for an indefinite period of time, so I'll upload the shoot all at once and then slowly process them during the year.  I haven't noticed the processing delay affecting search placement or sales. 

« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 16:15 »
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.. not to mention they took over 10 days to review them..


There's the worst problem and it isn't confined to DT. These are images that record a current event that bloggers, news people, etc. are going to acquire for their "morning edition".......why 10 days? It's an editorial submission and it needs to be offered to a waiting buyer within a 12 hour period to maximize its' sales capabilities or it'll quickly become an old, standard image. If you're going to offer editorial material, do it right or don't do it at all.

« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2012, 22:30 »
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Whenever I have a lot of photos from a single shoot, I submit them in batches over a period of a year.  Avoids the dreaded "too many" rejections.    

DT and most sites store everything we upload for an indefinite period of time, so I'll upload the shoot all at once and then slowly process them during the year.  I haven't noticed the processing delay affecting search placement or sales.  

no it doesnt, they look in your portfolio, they go back and search those keywords, if they find they will say you have already online.. (talking about too many or similar rejections)

« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 02:54 »
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Whenever I have a lot of photos from a single shoot, I submit them in batches over a period of a year.  Avoids the dreaded "too many" rejections.    

DT and most sites store everything we upload for an indefinite period of time, so I'll upload the shoot all at once and then slowly process them during the year.  I haven't noticed the processing delay affecting search placement or sales.  

no it doesnt, they look in your portfolio, they go back and search those keywords, if they find they will say you have already online.. (talking about too many or similar rejections)

I have experienced the same thing. There must be something that flags similar images in your portfolio. Seems to be a bit random because some get through some don't

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 21:29 »
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i think I read somewhere that identical keywords and image title will get you into that situation at DT. It doesn't seem to matter how many you upload; if I only upload 5 from a series (that I've chosen as the best out of a bigger batch) DT will still - on principle - reject a few under that "too similar" ruling.

« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 21:43 »
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Honestly, it's crazy to submit news shots to the micros. Try Alamy's news stream. At least you might get a decent return on your effort and avoid this [email protected] about "too many" etc.

« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2012, 18:18 »
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Honestly, it's crazy to submit news shots to the micros. Try Alamy's news stream. At least you might get a decent return on your effort and avoid this [email protected] about "too many" etc.

I wonder about that too BUT I had them all approved at SS, BigStock, 123RF, DP, YAY, FP, PM.. so kind of late, maybe next time

« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 16:24 »
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Whenever I have a lot of photos from a single shoot, I submit them in batches over a period of a year.  Avoids the dreaded "too many" rejections.    

DT and most sites store everything we upload for an indefinite period of time, so I'll upload the shoot all at once and then slowly process them during the year.  I haven't noticed the processing delay affecting search placement or sales.  

no it doesnt, they look in your portfolio, they go back and search those keywords, if they find they will say you have already online.. (talking about too many or similar rejections)

I am convinced that the very first thing DT does is an electronic, automated search of your uploads to compare them to your port.  Any matching sets get an auto rejection for too similar regardless of the image differences.  Very frustrating indeed.

« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2012, 16:38 »
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Whenever I have a lot of photos from a single shoot, I submit them in batches over a period of a year.  Avoids the dreaded "too many" rejections.    

DT and most sites store everything we upload for an indefinite period of time, so I'll upload the shoot all at once and then slowly process them during the year.  I haven't noticed the processing delay affecting search placement or sales.  

no it doesnt, they look in your portfolio, they go back and search those keywords, if they find they will say you have already online.. (talking about too many or similar rejections)

I am convinced that the very first thing DT does is an electronic, automated search of your uploads to compare them to your port.  Any matching sets get an auto rejection for too similar regardless of the image differences.  Very frustrating indeed.

dont know if is automatic (must be) but I am sure they do it, its the only agency doing that actually, SS does have a image tracker but its regarding the picture itself not the same keywords or other.. (something like already approved in your portfolio)

« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 21:27 »
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Whenever I have a lot of photos from a single shoot, I submit them in batches over a period of a year.  Avoids the dreaded "too many" rejections.    

DT and most sites store everything we upload for an indefinite period of time, so I'll upload the shoot all at once and then slowly process them during the year.  I haven't noticed the processing delay affecting search placement or sales.  

no it doesnt, they look in your portfolio, they go back and search those keywords, if they find they will say you have already online.. (talking about too many or similar rejections)

I am convinced that the very first thing DT does is an electronic, automated search of your uploads to compare them to your port.  Any matching sets get an auto rejection for too similar regardless of the image differences.  Very frustrating indeed.

i use duplicate descriptions and keywords many times, and the results from DT vary - they reject when the images really might be considered similar, not just when the words are the same

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 09:08 »
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There is another problem created by the "too many similar"!

It gets you way to many unwarranted rejections allowing DT to cut back on the amount of images you can submit.

I have well over 500 or so editorials i could submit but they wont let me because they cut back on what i can submit in a week so i can't submit them all at once which is totally stupid on their part!


 

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