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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2010, 15:28 »
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Yup I am seeing the same trend. Not big drop, but slowly declining. It's not a good trend, hopefully they can pick up momentum with economy improving.  I see noticeable increase in sales on Fotolia and IS (well on IS maybe because I finally managed to get a sizable portfolio online with their upload limits), SS is not quite "booming" but at least pretty consistent.

As I said before, I see a good increase in SS (moneywise) but not as many EL-s as before.

Kone


« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2010, 15:50 »
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slow decline since sept 08 for me

gbcimages

« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2010, 16:05 »
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out of the last 20 sales I had 11 .27 -.35 SUBS

« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2010, 16:08 »
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I haven't uploaded anything since December, preparing for exclusivity. Sales are still strong at dreamstime even after deleting a small portion of my port. Average royalty per download has been above $2.00 since dec.

« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2010, 16:15 »
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My sales at DT is dying!!!

I joined DT at 2005, with regularly uploading photos and big Portfolio, my sales increase every month and very stable.
I mean it, very stable! Sales at DT is same as SS and FL.
But from April 2009 to March 2010, my sales dropped more than 50%, at sametime, my sales at SS IS and FL are keeping growing.
Now my sales at DT is way behind SS IS and FL !!

Very disappointed !!!

lisafx

« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2010, 16:46 »
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I haven't uploaded anything since December, preparing for exclusivity. Sales are still strong at dreamstime even after deleting a small portion of my port. Average royalty per download has been above $2.00 since dec.

Wow, this is surprising.  I have never had a RPD over $2 there, even before the royalty cut. 

I hadn't uploaded there in several months too and sales were slowly dropping. This month I started uploading again and sales have picked up.  I assumed there might be a connection.  Maybe not?

Kone, you and I have the same number of years uploading, same acceptance rate, and roughly the same number of images in portfolio.  :)   Weird that we are experiencing such different results.  Must be down to subject matter or dumb luck...

« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2010, 20:48 »
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slow decline since sept 08 for me

Yes, that is exactly what I am talking about.

« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2010, 20:50 »
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out of the last 20 sales I had 11 .27 -.35 SUBS

I looked at this closely and I saw that I was making the wrong statement to ap. This is correct about subs $0.26 - $0.35 - $0.70:
In my last 20 sales, 8 of them were subs,
Of the last 40 sales, 21 were subs,
Last 60 sales I got 34 subs.
So more than 50% subs out of 60 sales is what I think is a little too many.

Kone

« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2010, 20:51 »
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I haven't uploaded anything since December, preparing for exclusivity. Sales are still strong at dreamstime even after deleting a small portion of my port. Average royalty per download has been above $2.00 since dec.

Wow, you are a lucky one.
Is it IS, if I can ask?
I just looked your web site and your IS portfolio, and all I can say is that you have beautiful images.
Great portfolio, now I see why you want to go exclusive.
Thanks for your comment and good luck.

Kone

« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2010, 20:52 »
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My sales at DT is dying!!!

I joined DT at 2005, with regularly uploading photos and big Portfolio, my sales increase every month and very stable.
I mean it, very stable! Sales at DT is same as SS and FL.
But from April 2009 to March 2010, my sales dropped more than 50%, at sametime, my sales at SS IS and FL are keeping growing.
Now my sales at DT is way behind SS IS and FL !!

Very disappointed !!!

Yep, me too.
Let's hope better times are coming.

Kone

« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2010, 20:54 »
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Kone, you and I have the same number of years uploading, same acceptance rate, and roughly the same number of images in portfolio.  :)   Weird that we are experiencing such different results.  Must be down to subject matter or dumb luck...

Hi Lisa,
Everything you said is correct, but I do more food photography than models and maybe I should change that and start doing more and more modeling shots.
I appreciate all of your comments and the time that you spent on them, not just for me, but for all of us. 

Kone

« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2010, 20:58 »
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My RPD last month was also well over $2 but still I was over $100 away from my BME.

8 months now of decline. Not pretty to look at.

« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2010, 21:34 »
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My RPD last month was also well over $2 but still I was over $100 away from my BME.

8 months now of decline. Not pretty to look at.

That is fantastic! I can just dream about $2 RPD.
What types of photos do you shoot?

Kone

« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2010, 22:13 »
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I haven't uploaded anything since December, preparing for exclusivity. Sales are still strong at dreamstime even after deleting a small portion of my port. Average royalty per download has been above $2.00 since dec.

Wow, this is surprising.  I have never had a RPD over $2 there, even before the royalty cut. 

I hadn't uploaded there in several months too and sales were slowly dropping. This month I started uploading again and sales have picked up.  I assumed there might be a connection.  Maybe not?

Kone, you and I have the same number of years uploading, same acceptance rate, and roughly the same number of images in portfolio.  :)   Weird that we are experiencing such different results.  Must be down to subject matter or dumb luck...

Thanks, Kone  :) Yep, Istock, I wasn't aware there was another site worth going exclusive with  ;)

Lisa, I was surprised also, prior to December it was closer to 1.5 RPD.Commissions have been higher than normal, also been seeing lots of random Tiff sales for $10.00+ royalty. I had no idea they were even selling these until I saw one. Doesn't really make sense since the file is converted from JPG, does it? Actually sales #'s are a little down but money is stable. I thought things would be much worse while waiting for the hold to expire. Another thing worth mentioning is, this is generally when my sales start to pick up, peaking in June.

« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2010, 22:15 »
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That is fantastic! I can just dream about $2 RPD.
What types of photos do you shoot?

Kone

I'm more into illustrations - not vector though.

ap

« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2010, 23:34 »
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Have you noticed that there are more and more $0.35 and even $0.27 lately? I used to have a few subs but lately there are more subs than regular sales and don't remember last time I had an ES.

Kone

only .35 subs and they account for 28% of all sales. my rpd is $.91, which is on the decrease.

« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2010, 02:08 »
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uploading since june 2008
port size at dt at present: 635 pics
march 2010 already bme and still 4 days to go  :)

« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2010, 03:24 »
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Have you noticed that there are more and more $0.35 and even $0.27 lately?

Sudden shift to subscriptions (Thread on DT forum)
Answer from Achilles:
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Paul, as mentioned in my previous post there may be other factors that contributed to your decline in revenue. Lower resolution could be an explanation or dillution via similars, change of the search engine or many others. While we monitor accounts in various ways, it's impossible to keep earnings growing at BME levels in every month for everyone. It's our goal, but various factors may contribute in ups and downs.

I suggest to check your quarterly earnings and see how revenue and downloads fluctuate. That graph is way more relevant for everyone's experience and should clear your worry about sudden shifts.

PS: a green curve above the blue curve represents a mature portfolio with a good RPD. The bigger the gap, the better the quality factors of that portfolio. Blue curve above green curve usually means new portfolio (or growing very fast), high number of similars or lower quality factors compared to your competition. I'm referring to long term trends, so check the quarterly page instead of the monthly one.

« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2010, 07:51 »
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Answer from Achilles:
... PS: a green curve above the blue curve represents a mature portfolio with a good RPD. The bigger the gap, the better the quality factors of that portfolio. ...

I have that scenario since the beginning of January 2008 and I'm still on a decline. It means nothing.

« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2010, 08:37 »
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My stats show me:

DT Best month ever (May 2009): $293 with 1190 images -> RPI $0.25

Last month (february 2010): $193 with 1600 images -> RPI $0.12

The first time I hit $193 (March 2008, $201) with 746 images -> RPI $0.27

Change from July 2007 to february 2010 (jul 07 is the first month when I started keeping statistics over the amount of images I have):
Revenue $140 (Jul 2007) -> $193 (Feb 2010) Equals to +38%
Images 561 (Jul 2007) -> 1600 (Feb 2010) Equals to +186%

These numbers are very harsh. And it looks definitely like DT is dying. I hope they fix it soon, they were my favorite agency before they changed their royalty rates. (Now I don't have a favorite, I hate them all!)
« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 08:48 by Perry »

« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2010, 08:59 »
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uploading since june 2008
port size at dt at present: 635 pics
march 2010 already bme and still 4 days to go  :)

Excellent,
Good luck.

Kone

« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2010, 09:17 »
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uploading since june 2008
port size at dt at present: 635 pics
march 2010 already bme and still 4 days to go  :)
Excellent
He has no portfolio link, hence incredible.

« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2010, 10:01 »
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Have you noticed that there are more and more $0.35 and even $0.27 lately?

Sudden shift to subscriptions (Thread on DT forum)
Answer from Achilles:
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Paul, as mentioned in my previous post there may be other factors that contributed to your decline in revenue. Lower resolution could be an explanation or dillution via similars, change of the search engine or many others. While we monitor accounts in various ways, it's impossible to keep earnings growing at BME levels in every month for everyone. It's our goal, but various factors may contribute in ups and downs.

I suggest to check your quarterly earnings and see how revenue and downloads fluctuate. That graph is way more relevant for everyone's experience and should clear your worry about sudden shifts.

PS: a green curve above the blue curve represents a mature portfolio with a good RPD. The bigger the gap, the better the quality factors of that portfolio. Blue curve above green curve usually means new portfolio (or growing very fast), high number of similars or lower quality factors compared to your competition. I'm referring to long term trends, so check the quarterly page instead of the monthly one.



If they are talking about the camera resolution (or I mixed something up) I have a 12 MP Nikon D700 camera and pro lenses. So that is not a factor.
Right now and the entire 2009 year, I was producing more files than before but the yellow curve is going down for some reason, even with the above 90% acceptance rate.
Blue green curve scenario:
My green and blue curves are mixed up all the time if I look from the year 2008 to the current period the blue is above green, this means that the RPD (portfolio) by Achilles is not good. There is almost no gap between them. From 2006 until 2008 the blue was well above the green curve. However, as click_click said, I don't think either is telling us the truth. I am making more now than in 2007 where the green was well above blue. Does that means my portfolio was better in 2007? No!
« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 10:04 by Kone »

« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2010, 10:06 »
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My stats show me:

DT Best month ever (May 2009): $293 with 1190 images -> RPI $0.25

Last month (february 2010): $193 with 1600 images -> RPI $0.12

The first time I hit $193 (March 2008, $201) with 746 images -> RPI $0.27

Change from July 2007 to february 2010 (jul 07 is the first month when I started keeping statistics over the amount of images I have):
Revenue $140 (Jul 2007) -> $193 (Feb 2010) Equals to +38%
Images 561 (Jul 2007) -> 1600 (Feb 2010) Equals to +186%

These numbers are very harsh. And it looks definitely like DT is dying. I hope they fix it soon, they were my favorite agency before they changed their royalty rates. (Now I don't have a favorite, I hate them all!)

Hi Perry,

Thanks for the detailed information honestly I did not calculate the RPI I calculated the RPD.
I don't hate anybody I am just doing my job. Photography is my only income source and microstock is taking bigger part.
The economic situation at the moment is where it is so that maybe a big factor as well.

Kone

« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2010, 12:51 »
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My RPI this month is already  over a $1.10 (RPD over $2.70) so your stats definitely don't mean that DT are dying.



Last month (february 2010): $193 with 1600 images -> RPI $0.12


These numbers are very harsh. And it looks definitely like DT is dying.


 

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